Anonymous
Years ago

U17 Men's Squad for World Champs

Abiola Akintola (VIC Metro)
Kyle Clark (TAS)
Harry Froling (QLDN)
Deng Gak (NSW Metro)
Jayden Hodgson (NSW Country)
Isaac Humphries (NSW Metro)
Trent McMullan (VIC Country)
Kouat Noi (NSW Country)
Matthew Owies (VIC Metro)
Dejan Vasiljevic (VIC Metro)
Jack White (VIC Country)
Tom Wilson (VIC Metro)

There's a team preview by AUS BBALL Prospects on the AUSA Hoops site.

Thoughts?

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Anon  
Years ago

Congrats to those who made it. Good luck & make us proud.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ex SA Coach Justin Schueler is the assistant! Our only representative in the side!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I personally disagree with some inclusions but coaches have got most selections right in my opinion. Go Aussies!

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Anon  
Years ago

Should have had another top age big man. Too many big guys are bottom age. One extra year at this age for a big makes a significant difference in strength.
Even so - still a good team and hope they have a very successful world champ tournament.

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GWB  
Years ago

Be nice to have Thon Maker or Deng Adel in there..

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Steven  
Years ago

I don't know much about these guys admittedly but agree if he was available Thon Maker would have been great in this team. Deng Adel born 1996 is too old for this team but would be a good fit for 2015 under 19s.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There literally are no other top age big men good enough...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon all the big men are AIS, no one else was going to be picked and no one would get in the team ahead of those at the AIS. Team was always going to be this once Jock got crook.

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Woooo  
Years ago

They should of included Bul Kuol in the team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The team selected is strong, deep and talented. Great job coaches on the selection. Great job players on making the team!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Woooo - and a McDowell-White or two, I suppose?

If a kid doesn't want to meet the training obligations of the pathway, why should he get a shortcut to the top?

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LC  
Years ago

A very talented and well balanced team IMO.

Good luck to the team!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great team that will do us proud no doubt. What they may lack in defending they should make up for in outside shooting ability. Good luck boys go and get that medal.

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anonymous  
Years ago

Thon Marker is sudanese, not australian and by the time he finishes his high school and college he will have spent more time in USA than in Australia, his brother also, so stands to reason he has no want to meet any obligations here, and not having a poke at the kid just being realistic, he would be better off applying for USA citizenship.

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Anon  
Years ago

083 Thon Maker would have been lost to Basketball if he did not come to Australia - where do you think he learnt to play the game? Not in Sudan.

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anonymous  
Years ago

hes still learning to play his development is going to be done in USA not in australia, why do you think hes there, you cant put a tag on a kid who only done the basics and say we taught him everything

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I would have thought harry Froling would have made it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I would have thought harry Froling would have made it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

he did you tool and you asked it twice

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Socceroos have shown us what our next generations of international teams will be made of. Our country is multi cultural and even now we are seeing the changes.

In future the Boomers will have guards with Serbian or Croatian heritage, small forwards with athletic ability from their Afro American dads and bigs from Sudanese families migrating here like Thon did.

There will be a mix of these among other ethnic mixes because this is what our country is made from.

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Anon  
Years ago

To 099 above - did you actually see Thon play when he was in Australia? Thon learnt way more than the "Basics" as you put it in Australia. The kid was a serious player when he left for the US. I suppose you think kids like Humphries have got to the "Basic" level here in Australia as well!

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Clive  
Years ago

I think 093 and 099 could be a touch racist. Correct me if I am wrong.

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GWB  
Years ago

By the time Thon left for america he was already a touted prospect that colleges were talking about. Regardless, he has expressed his interest in playing for aus. Is he too old for this team by birthdate or something? Is he a shot for the U/19 worlds. I would def get him in ASAP.

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LC  
Years ago

The pleasing thing about Thon Maker from an Aussie perspective is that he has indicated his preference to play for Australia on the world stage within the past couple of months after a visit from Lemanis.

Now we just need to get him suited up in an Aussie uniform at a FIBA sanctioned event. One feels that the 2015 U19 World Championships in Greece will be the opportune time for him to shine at the World stage for the Emu's.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lack in defending? That group can defend at every position.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So, games will be streamed live from Dubai will they?

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LC  
Years ago

Apparently so, via FIBA's Livebasketball.TV

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anonymous  
Years ago

so un19 worlds are definately in greece not south africa?

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LC  
Years ago

Yep, definitely Greece.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thought women were in greece are men as well

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LC  
Years ago

Me are in Greece, women are in Russia for U19 WC's in 2015.

Women's U17 WC kicks off tonight.

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anonymous  
Years ago

is this confirmed re un19s as I was told Greece for girls or south africa no mention of russia























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MELHOOPS  
Years ago

Hey guys, can anyone tell me what happened to Jock Perry and the reason he wasn't selected?

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Alpha  
Years ago

Jock has had a surgery and is out for another 3-4 months thus was unavailable for selection.

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LC  
Years ago

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LC  
Years ago

And we now have an update on Kouat Noi as well up on PnR:

Kouat Noi beginning to receive NCAA interest, will explore prep school route

Kouat Noi is one of the most dynamic prospects in the country and is receiving interest from a number of impressive division 1 college programs. Cal State Long Beach, Nicholls State and Boise State have all expressed interest in the 6'7 forward out of Newcastle, NSW.

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SF6  
Years ago

When do the U/17s mens WC start?

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Alpha  
Years ago

On the 8th of August... the games will be streamed live

http://www.fiba.com/world/u17/2014

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Bear  
Years ago

So, the team is off to Europe before they drop into Dubai for the worlds. Just for interest how do we compare with the 2014 USA Men's U17 World Championship Team?

Tyus Battle
Pos G
HGT 6-5
WGT 170
DOB 09/23/1997

Thomas Bryant
Pos F
HGT 6-9
WGT 210
DOB 07/31/1997

Henry Ellenson
Pos F/C
HGT 6-9
WGT 250
DOB 01/13/1997

Terrance Ferguson
Pos G
HGT 6-6
WGT 170
DOB 05/17/1997

De'Aaron Fox
Pos G
HGT 6-2
WGT 175
DOB 12/20/1997

Harry Giles
Pos F
HGT 6-9
WGT 210
DOB 04/22/1998

Mustapha Heron
Pos G
HGT 6-4
WGT 190
DOB 12/12/1997

Josh Jackson
Pos G/F
HGT 6-6
WGT 175
DOB 02/10/1997

V.J. King
Pos G/F
HGT 6-6
WGT 175
DOB 01/22/1997

T.J. Leaf
Pos F
HGT 6-8
WGT 200
DOB 04/30/1997

Malik Newman
Pos G
HGT 6-4
WGT 185
DOB 02/21/1997

Ivan Rabb
Pos F
HGT 6-10
WGT 210
DOB 02/04/1997

Devearl Ramsey
Pos F
HGT 5-10
WGT 170
DOB 05/17/1997

Diamond Stone
Pos F/C
HGT 6-10
WGT 254
DOB 02/10/1997

Caleb Swanigan
Pos F
HGT 6-8
WGT 280
DOB 04/18/1997

Jayson Tatum
Pos G
HGT 6-7
WGT 195
DOB 03/03/1998

Derryck Thornton
Pos G
HGT 6-2
WGT 160
DOB 05/30/1997

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Bear  
Years ago

Sorry, I think that is their squad, if anyone has the actual team feel free to amend the post...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The USA team is yet to be picked. They're still in the midst of their trials - with the squad Bear posted above.

Athletically and even talent-wise we don't matchup with the US in the backcourt.. Our only advantage is our size. We have a 7-footer and they don't

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Bear  
Years ago

Thanks Anon, I noticed Canada is in our group, surely teams will be posted soon? This will be a nice warm up to Spain a couple of weeks later, Go Assies...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Results for the first practice Game in France

AUST 66 vs PUERTO RICO 69.
Scores at each qtr:
1. AUST 22 v Puerto Rico 16
2. AUST 30 v Puerto Rico 36
3. AUST 48 v Puerto Rico 43
4. AUST 66 v Puerto Rico 69
Game stats:
Wilson 14 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists
Vasiljevic 12 points
Noi 12 points
Humphries 11 points

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Second game in France:

Aust vs France

Q1 13-23
Q2 27-31
Q3 50-56
Q4 67-88

Stats:

Jack White 15 points (shooting 75% from the field)
Tom Wilson 14 points
Isaac Humphries 8 points
Abi Akintola 7 points

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Any box scores or statistics on the practice games? Looks like France ran over us a little towards the end of that game!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I have to feel a bit for Isaac Humpries.

Hes on a hiding to nothing being rated a 5 star talent by that australian site when he cleary isnt at the level of Exum, Simmons or even Bolden imo.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^anon he is 16 and relies on team mates delivering the ball to him, those others you are comparing him to all get their own ball!

Do you know much about the game?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

485639 Obviously doesn't know much about basketball at all. No more speaking from you

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Looks like I posted when the Humphries clan was online.

Anyway didn't say he didn't have good ability, just feel the rating given too him will set him up for unfair criticism

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cool down everyone, its only a practice tournament.

Reserve your comments & judgements until after the the World's. Comments like these are not helpful to anyone, players or coaches.

Tall poppy syndrome rules again.

Also, you're not at the game so you don't know what ahappend or how it played out. For example, maybe he only played 8 minutes out of 40?

How would any of you feel if the comments were written about you at 16 years of age?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

In hindsight I should have made the comment in another thread, it has nothing to-do with his game over-night and really isn't even a criticism of him but the "ratings" site that has started dishing out these stars

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Anon  
Years ago

Hi I watched the u/17 men over 3 games against New Zealand earlier in their preparation. I thought Humphries played better than Perry but I don't know if Perry was carrying an injury back then? I do not think this squad is as strong as previous ones. However I wish them well and hope I am wrong.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Game 3 in France:

Aust v Argentina

Q1 22 v 17
Q2 34 v 27
Q3 52 v 46
Q4 75 v 71

Stats:

Dejan Vasiljevic 26 points, 7 rebounds
Tom Wilson 17 points
Isaac Humphries 12 points, 7 rebounds
Kouat Noi 7 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assists

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A win will be great for confidence, can't wait to actually watch them play!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where did you find that information Anonymous? The BA web site is still stuck on the first game, no updates at all!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's called parents privilege.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Game 4 in France.

Scores:

Q1 AUS 24 v CAN 20
Q2 AUS 41 v CAN 42
Q3 AUS 56 v CAN 69
Q4 AUS 85 v CAN 88

Stats:

Dejan Vasijevic 24 points
Kouat Noi 12 points and 8 rebounds
Kyle Clark 12 points
Tom Wilson 11 points
Isaac Humphries 11 points

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anonymous  
Years ago

Lost it in the 3rd but good effort hopefully they will be better at worlds next week

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Interesting points here but obviously details are not available.

Seems to be the same players scoring.

Seems we are not far from these teams.

If we can improve more than these teams next week, we can get over them.

Good luck boys!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You cannot determine how good or bad a player played purely from the score they had, others could be getting the rebounds assists, steal or playing great d to allow those to score.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Correct, but since scores are all we have to go on at the moment, the point is that the scoring is consistently coming from about 50% of the team.

I am sure when we get some box scores we will be able to analyse how they are going much better. Also being able to watch some video of their games will be good to see.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Their gave been different scorers in different games so again you can just say only a few are doing their job and it looks to me they are spreading the load which is good

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hey guys, other than paying a subscription for livebasketball.TV is there a way you can watch these games online for free?

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Rex  
Years ago

You Tube ===> FIBA TV

Thats where the u17 girls games were so I would expect the same for the boys, excellent HD coverage for all the games.

No commentary even better.

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LC  
Years ago

Spot on - FIBA's TouTube channel is likely to show at least some of the games, but livebasketball.tv is another option - for US$1.

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anonymous  
Years ago

yes the youtube livecast was excellent for the girls , the only talking was the court announcer

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Bear  
Years ago

Is that $1.00 per month for a subscription LC? Sounds cheap...

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