In my brothers team there is someone exactly like that. She's sooooo serious and full on and never stops trying to do the coaches job, yells and the ref and her kid all the time etc etc. There in U12's for god sake! Just feel like stabbing her to be honest.

Two things come to the fore on this issue - One good thing that happens as a child gets older is that talent and game smarts over come all other things and your child will just be there in the team based on ability. The other thing you have to remember is that a lot of coaches invest a lot of time in kids that they think will be the ants pants. You see it all the time. Don't you think that they have to justify the time and effort they put into these kids ? The unfortunate thing for the coach is that as a kid goes up through the grades they cannot hide the deficiencies any more - Ignore the parent, ignore the coaches intent, shut up say nothing, encourage your kid to develop and enjoy their bball at the highest level THEY aspire too, not you and then you should not have a problem.

At the end of the day remember 1 thing - the kids know who the better players are regardless of what coaches and parents think and they survive

I can not imagine how many good coaches/people have stepped away from coaching due to the 1% - its only 1% but its such a magnified few

I can not imagine how many good coaches/people have stepped away from coaching due to the 1% - its only 1% but its such a magnified few

Some good points and observations. I guess what has come out of this is that most people feel that the "cream will rise to the top" in the end.

It has been our feeling that talent will eventually win over Mom & Pops phone calls and ear bashings.

It is just frustating when the "Parents from Hell's" kid has missed out on a state team and state training squads on the only 2 occasions that they were eligable for them.

These parents have then started a campaign to activly seek out the coaches in question, personally and via phone. All of a sudden the kid gets picked in the team and in another instance included very late in a state training program. To date it has not been at the expense of our kid, but it has meant that some other kid has missed out because thier parents were not as good at "PR" as the others.

It is frustrating and tiresome to have seen it at club level, then see the exact same tactics at State level.

I sometimes wonder what one of those parents from hell would think reading a thread like this. Im sure theres a few reading right now.

I tend to think it wouldnt even click that they are the type of person being talked about.

KWest agree with you totally. May be why kids drop out of the sport too at a great rate the older they get. Seems to me the kids that speak their minds in 16 and 18's go by the wayside no matter how good.

To all the parents from hell - don't you know that people find out when you ring up Coaches, State Coaches and SASI coaches to bag the kids that got to final selections and picked in teams b4 yours - and everyone knows what a small minded world that parents from hell live in. Its dog eat dog at all costs - your kids will be the kids that will tell you to stick it when they are old enough and drop out of b/ball because they are living your dream not theirs

They're called 'helicopters'. 'Cos after trainings and games all they do is 'hover' waiting to piss in the coaches ear. Unfortunately I see the younger coaches get sucked in by it.They are not necessarily confident in the job they are doing and reinforcement that they're 'fantastic' from suckhole parent hits the mark and the 'conditioning' has started. Been happening since the game of basketball began but have yet to see it pay off long term. If your kid is legit about working hard eventually the tide will turn and circumstances will change where his turn in the 'sun' will come. Seen it time and time again. Don't lower yourself to that level.

Best comeback I've ever seen to a parent in the coaches ear for more court time was having their child dropped a division the following week.

Dummy spit - change clubs. Coach 1 Parent 0

All clubs have a "chain of command".
Talk to your team manager first; if no satisfaction, there will be a junior co-ordinator who would help.

Relax
I would suggest that the parents you describe will do more harm than good for their children in the long run. Coaches generally smile, but HATE this type of parent. I would suggest that when team selections come along players ability may even come second to these parents.
If it is working on some coaches, trust me the coach will learn!!

Sometimes it's not about the players skill etc but who one of the parents or relative may be. Take the U/14 div 1 girls on the weekend a classic example of who you are related to

#107476 Yes totally agree and I think it's great if a player so young is capable of playing in the div 1's but certainly not this girl! That was a joke and send out the wrong message to the rest of the players. Sturt needs to get a grip and not allow parents to have so much influence on where their kids end up no matter how long the parent/s have been playing for or helping out at the club.

Coaches can tell the kids that love the game. Your right, they might not have the best skills, they might be a bench player but any coach want their heart and determination over more highly skilled players any day.

Parents look after their kids and so they should. I happens everywhere. But look around at the older groups. These parents dwindle dramatically, because the kids give up. Most of the time it is not the kid playing basketball but the parent playingbasketball through their child.

Most of the parents from Hell know what to do. They work their way onto the committee and now their child is untouchable.

This would explain how a club south of the city can have Div 1 players and they go to Sturt to play Div 4.

Some of the parents of the Div 1 and 2 should watch some games of the 3 & 4. You want see the skill levels but a lot of the time you will see a work ethic, and love for the game that is rare in the higher levels.

In the end you have only two choices, put up with the parents from Hell or leave the club. Due to the fact that they can kiss the ass of the coach, committee, president far better and more often can or are willing to do.

#107709, Totaly agree. What sorry little lifes they must lead.

State coaches do not listen to parents.
Never have never will!

#107709 - what is even more disturbing is that they get in State Coaches ears about kids from their own Clubs

"Sturt do show favouratism." so why are you so up at arms at what Concerned has said. It is very true, all you have to do is look at the player who played in U14 div 1 last weekend to know that it is only because of who her father is that she played in Div 1!! This player was not even a starting 5 in U12 Div1.
All the parents have had to pick their jaws up off the ground after what happend.

Lets all remember, it is not the childs fault.

Should the child pay for the sins of the parents? Not at all.

Totaly agree Anon-e-mouse.

LET THE KIDS PLAY

#107951 - totally agree with you - #107917 - kids can improve and get better and they usually do - let the Coaches coach and choose who they think is the best fit in a team - rotations are happening in all clubs at the moment - it was most prob her turn and nothing to do with who her parents are or what they do - she deserves a chance at it as much as anyone else - be open minded - I am assuming this was her first chance at Div 1 - kid is most prob nervous and so are her parents - they dont need this sort of feedback from parents within their own club.

#107757 i fail to see any heart or determination , only individualism.... heart and determination don't win games only skill and hard at it will get a team over the line. Parents should look after there kids!! agreed, but not at the expense of other kids!!!!!!!!

What about some ideas on how to deal with the "coaches from hell" - lets take the parents money out of the basketball system and see how you go.

Once again the sturt 14 girls parents kicking up a fuss - whole lot of em need too look at themselves. Same happened last year. Bickering and infighting - Pity Matt Gliddon - I am a sturt parent in an older age group and there are heaps of us sick of this group with their own little agendas and they are an absolute embarassment to the club - GROW UP

108115, if you've got a problem with it, CONTACT ME, don't just whine about it. How am I supposed to have time to follow junior basketball closely on top of everything else? I don't play junior basketball, coach it, referee it, have a child playing it, watch it - on this week's numbers, there are 170+ posts per day going through this forum and it is tough policing them all. I can make a cursory glance at most to check for offensive language, but I cannot be expected to have a thorough knowledge of every area or read every post in detail.

For the most part, this thread has seemed to be mostly on topic. Why lock it? If there are particular posts that you consider to be an issue, get in touch.

Business arising - yeah lets take the parents money out of it - guess what then? there will be no Clubs, No Coaches, No Committees, No Volunteers, no Juniors section in Hoops SA forum - so you cant have a say - No kids being able to play District B/ball no nufink......cant run a District B/Ball club without $. Lets all go and play social ball and have fun, and you will have to coach, be the Team Manager and do the organising eg scorers, pay the money to play/hire the court etc. What you dont get here is that Coaches volunteer their time - it is all for the benefit of your Little Johnny or Little Sally. Committee, Volunteers, Team Managers, are all doing this to help your kids and NOT GETTING PAID - donating their time, and paying for their own petrol to get to trainings and games etc.for your kids - your fees are for court hire, referees, payment to BSA etc etc etc. Lets take away the Coaches, committees, Team Managers and see how you go!

#108183 - the aim isn't to drag Sturt down, it is to lift other teams to their level.

I haven't noticed the wheels falling off - more like a pothole or two in the road.

Imagine what a fantastic club the "From Hell" group could make.

The From Hell club would only have div 1 teams.

Every kid would be called Johnny or Sally and would be related to the Admin side of the club. State teams would, by default, be made up of kids only from Hell club.

Every kid would be the best player in his or her age group.

The Admin of the club would run like clockwork.

They would have the newest stadium, with an Irish pub, instead of a bar and an "On The Run" instead of a canteen.

Lets hope the "From Hell" crew never get together.

As a parent in one of the Sturt U14 Girls teams I would like to say that we are not ALL in the same category. My daughter is doing her best and has been recognised this season and is extatic for this opportunity (no not Div 1) and is doing her best to show the enthusiasm and class that she has. I encourage her as best I can without pushing too hard however it can get disheartening when "some" (not all) players are pushed forward without doing the hard work. I still try to keep a positive outlook and certainly do not air my greavenses to all those around as I believe it affects all the players involved. I would like some feedback on how to keep the positiveness in a players mind with all this going on? Any help. PS I would put my name to this but I do not wish it to affect my daughter's place in Sturt.

108764. Thanks for your reply and understand what you are saying however do not appreciate your negativeness either. I did in fact ask for positive feedback.

Best feedback would be - don't discuss any of these issues in front of your daughter eg - what she doesn't know won't affect her -for positiveness - do not let your kid read this forum.

108756 - u r contradicting yurself - 1st u say "that we are not ALL in the same category then you state "it can get disheartening when "some" (not all) players are pushed forward without doing the hard work." Sounds like you are whining/whingeing about the same thing as 107917. How about considering that u think your daughter is better than other kids coz you're her parent. Not looking thru objective eyes in my opnion. Perhaps the Coach IS looking through objective eyes. Worth mulling over - dont u think!

Coaches are not stupid, they are probably just going through the motions........... let it go and finish all this whinging and complaining. GO STURT

Hhmmm all seems to have gone quiet on this one! Perhaps ANON was right after all?