aj has shown his worth and was great to see him start , needs a shit load more minutes

Nash a lockdown defender huh? Last night Rillie got 32, Saville had 30 something in here, Liam Rush a career high...

But fortunately Nash has balanced this with 3.3ppg and 31% shooting from the field. We will continue to get killed each and every week so long as he is the cornerstone of our defence. Mackinnon will KILL us on Sunday.

Majstrovich needs 30+ minutes. He actually DOES add a bit of toughness, and is a threat at the other end.

Question mark re. Nash, otherwise complete agreement Bizzy. Maesto definitely should have more time. I reckon their biggest problems are lack of team spirit and softness, both of which imo, are the coaching panels responsibility.

Yea, now Hill is out injured i assume sutton moves into the 10 full time until he recovers, so id like to see rotations like this for the rest of the season (or untill Hill returns)

PG Maher 30mins/Sutton 10/Ng 5
SG Farley 35/Copeland 5/Ng 8
SF Majstrovich 20/Nash 15/Copeland 13
PF Horvath 35/Majstrovich 10/Nash 5
C Cooper 25/Wheeler 23

I think that gives us a reasonably balanced line up, and a settled rotation would help the team gel aswell.
What do people think??

for starters it needs mentioning that last nights game against Townsville was dreadful. Adelaide went from being up by nearly 20 to losing by 20ish - how does it happen at such an elite level with a half decent team? Well one of the reasons is Copeland - he needs to go and go now..he is hurting the team more than anything else. If he is to stay though there is a message for him - "Pass the ball". The same is starting to apply to Farley aswel - people come to watch the 6ers play not the Farley show, or the Copeland fair.
On top of this, Hovrath was the turning point in the game last night, we were 2 points down (91-93) when he decided to have a tantrum - selfishness truly shown there.
P.S. It is a terrible thing that happened to Brad Hill however it was accidental - Abney could not have just let him scored easily - his coach would have tore strips off him, instead the crowd of the Dome did for the remainder of the night.

I regularly check this site and enjoy the banter.I have one golden rule that I have abided by for a long time.If a contributor hasnt got the intestinal fortitude to state his or her name I hit the delete button.Letterse unsigned finish up in file 13- the rubbish tin!!!!Anonymous seems to fit neatly into that slot!!

I hope the 36s can turn around their fortunes against the Bulletts and win a home game next Wednesday.

I hope to have more on Lightning early in the morning.

Stick with the teams.Its too easy to be a fair weather supporter!!

Our own cheersquad started this strong critical topic? Bizzy, arent you a Navy Seal>? If so...things cant be too good when those who's job is to never say die are doing so!

Careful Peter,
People on here get very 'touchy' when you call them fair weather supporters. It's way to close to the bone for some.
Nice T-shirt!!

Navy Seal, constructive criticism and free speech. I think Bizzy put forward a reasonable argument though I'm sure that not all will agree with everything he's said.

Peter, there's no delete button on this forum (unless you're a moderator) so I'm assuming you just ignore anonymous posts - each to their own. Any in particular in this thread that have you all worked up?

We've talked about this "fair weather" business before. These people talking about what they think is happening are going to the games and supporting the team - on here, they are merely discussing and making their suggestions.

Here's a hypothetical for you - say poster x suggests player y should be cut after this season. Some criticise them for their "fair weather support" (yawn...). Then the club does actually follow through, seem to agree with the criticism, and cut player y - are they "fair weather administrators"? I mean, seriously.

I hate to invoke Godwin's Law here, but are those protesting against a war or a dictatorship or for environmental issues - are they a "fair weather public" or are they acting on their concerns for the betterment of their society, species, club?

a captain stays with their ship

Who isn't sick and tired of watching the other teams go on runs. Such as 8 - 0 , 10 - 0 runs and Phil just sit there and assume that the team is going to work it out. when you look at it the championships we won Phil didn't really need to coach the teams. They were goo enough to do everything themselves. I mean when we went back to back You had Mee and Brooks basically fresh out of the NBA, Maher just coming into his greatness. The Cat, John Rillie coming off the bend for god sake. It seems when we need to him to take some control, such like when Willie just shoots sill shots all the time, Phil just lets him go. I could sit there and make subs here and there and just let the playing run their own thing and look good an win.

It looks to me now that Phil needs to do some coaching with this team and he can't and I'm sorry my friends and fellow supporters its time to go!!!

Why aren't they? I didn't bring down anyone, I offered some constructive criticism. In no way did I make any unruly comments against the Sixers, player or club as a whole.

What is it about my post you have such a problem with?

Well it is time to forget referring to fair weather supporters. This is now a business and I like paying customers to shareholders of a company. They demand success and a good return. They expect that their CEO is going to be the right person for the job. They also expect that when challenges are forthcoming, that the CEO will hve the right plans to meet those challenges. What price 36ers shares at present and would shareholders be happy with Phil Smyth as their CEO? I think not!
And as for Nash being such a good defender, then let's trade him to another club, we should get a fortune - like about $1.19. I just love the way he gets all the guys together on court for a quick ra ra session straight after he has committed another worthless foul or allowed yet another small forward to score. At least I can see the funny side of him.
We have to face up to it, this season is over, we are a very weak and soft side (but then again this team has been soft for a long time now, so look to next season when massive player changes need to be made and of course the coahing staff.
Good to see Boti finally starting to refer to this softness in the paper today, he is still short of deflecting any blame on the coach, but you never know, that may soon come. After all, he can't blame everything on Phil Sanders now, as he is no longer with the organisation.

Bizzy, I dont think you are understanding the role that normally a cheersquad would play in a sporting organisation. I am asuming the Navy Seals are such a group. Passionate supporters of the club who wish to be acknowledge by the audience and the club as such, therefore wearing the club colours and sitting as a team. I dont see myself as putting them down, just questioning one persons behavour as not fitting the chapter of the Seals.

I imagine they first need to understand and demonstrate LOYALTY. This is usually the main role such a 'team' play. I dont see your 'constructive critism' as loyal at all, infact quite the opposite. As for freedom of speech Isaac, I dont think that is true when talking about an organisation and the role the Seals are playing or suppost to play.

I think by asking for changes so we can again be a powerhouse is being loyal. Never once did I put down the current squad, I just said that there were missing pieces. I can guarantee my loyalty, I have been a fan since I was about 5, so 16 years or there abouts, I have stuck with them through it all, and I will continue too.

What is it about my post you see as un-loyal? I would have thought as a loyal fan you would want what is best for the club?

I think it should be noted that I have also paid the $750 for my mum, wife, brother and another too attend every game. So I am also a fan.

Bizzy, I didnt mean to offend and hope I havent... jsut very surprised at how open it all is from the 36s. When I read your message, it came across to me (and I am only one person but it is my feeling) that you want the replacement of the head coach. I didnt think that ambassadors would talk about other employees or members of the business in public. As a member of the 36ers team, I woudl have thought you would be required to take these concerns direct to your superior and not on a public forum.

Also, you said that some players lack heart and passion. A statement that if I was a player would probably really annoy me.

Still it is just my thoughts. I guess I am more surprised at the 36ers for allowing staff to talk in public than at your personal thoughts. For the record, I tent to agree with a lot you said. My reaction stemmed from visualising this occuring in my business, I would be horrified to think staff where talking in public about the problems they perceive may be occuring in my business. I always drum into them that we talk about problems in-house and fix them in-house.

You have to remember Anon, that we Seals are really passionate fans and I guess that from a Season ticket holders point of view that's where my view was coming from not as a Seal.

Bizzy, thanks for your response. I understand where your passion comes from and good on you. Just to clarify again my concerns, it was NOT at the Seals, just surprised at the freedom to express opinions.
105963, the Seals are part of the organisation. Have you seen their vids they do? They have full access to all players and coaching staff

"Annon" - the MC, announcer, etc - those are paid positions. I don't believe that the Seals get paid, so referencing them as part of the club's staff is a stretch. Bizzy is posting as a fan - were he doing otherwise, I'm sure he'd sign the post with his job title.

I'd liken them a little to the SDS at West Sydney games, members of which often post on OzHoops with their thoughts.

Perhaps the club may ask that informal associates of the club tone down comments, but I would support them having the ability to express their opinion and show their interest and passion.

Ok, I can appreciate that someone might find it inappropriate for a Navy Seal to offer strong thoughts, but I am also a Paying Season Ticket Holder and am an extremely passionate fan out there every week, watching games since I was young, but I will try and be more careful about what post in the future.