let me tell u south definatly don't have a chance. what going on in that club why is everyone leaving.

not everybody is leaving, i don't know his name but didn't 2 black dudes just leave

This years under 20's will be a very exciting competition.

I think the front runners will consist of North, Nourlunga, Woodville and West (not necessarily in that order) Norwood and South may also have a shot.

The more relaxed attitude towards 20's often brings out excellent team work aswell as great individual skills, it is a very entertaining league, so support it!

The mass testosterone of 18's is over. Despite being coolies, Dunks/blocks don't win matches...scrapping and scoring do. (and i say that as someone who appreciates and is able to dunk, so dont be calling me weak)

To conclude, Scrap hard, drive hard, pull those sweet J's from range and look after your mum.

Yea scrap rules and good hustle but everyone loves to see the big dunk and block. justs keeps the crowd happy becoz they dont usually appreciate the players who dive for the ball and end each games with corkies and court burns. On that note which player in U20s would have the most scrap and hustle and where would the best dunks be coming from.

most scrap will come from woodville, they all struggle with general basketball ability, but these boys can scrap a game out. evident in their game on last friday nite.

North only have one second year in leif burdon who is an absolute gun. Tom Rowe and Jordan Kies are awesome. The thing is tho is that they are a team of guards. they dont have a tall unless theyve recruited someone. Whos is meant to contain the bigger players in the league.

(Mod: Watch your language.)

Think everyone is forgetting about the eagles this year in the 20's. Any team with Peter Hoban and Matt Gange would have to be considered a threat!

And let's not forget, this Forestville group minus Gange were 3rd in U18s. Gange fills their most glaring hole from that team, so I think they'll compete.

is Gange from forrestvlle the guy with the dreds? Did he play for vic country in the 18s at newcastle?

Manager,

Yes, that's Matt Gange! He was Vic Country captain in Newcastle 2003.

Its seems to be that the best dunking team will be south and the best scrapping team will be woodville. Which is more important...let me think...oh yes, SCRAP!

I wish U20 men div 1 teams would start playing real basketball and stop playing zones. Instead of the league getting rid of such things like jump balls, they should ban the zone defense!

If you cant take a zone then go play table tennis or something. Its a part of the game...the jump ball should live on, its a travesty that they took it away for so much of the game.
I dont particularly like playing zones at all, but i think the game has been changed enough in recent times...if it aint broke, dont fix it!

Under 20's should be able to take a zone apart, the easies way not to play against zones is burn them with transition, outside shooting and inside action.

U14's and below can't shoot around zones and shouldn't have to play against them.

Gotta admit though it SUCKS always playong zones.

I don't think anyone like playing against a zone. It slows the game and sends it stale. Even boring. Not hard to beat, but harder to beat than a man. Isn't zone defence not allowed in the NBA???

Team who start in zone at the beginning of a season will get burnt as the season drags on. Zones are not hard to beat and in Under 20's, these teams should take it apart...

Correct, zones are illegal in the NBA.

Zones are no longer illegal in the NBA. They now have a 'defensive 3 seconds' rule, whereby a defender cannot stand in the lane doing bugger all. You can be in the lane for 3+ seconds if you are either actively defending someone, or within one metre of them.

Other than that, zones are legal now. You will find that Dallas often play a bit of zone as do some other teams.

I don't dislike playing against zones. They are pretty simple to beat if you have good teamwork. All you really need to do is pass & move to space, get the defenders moving and there will be holes all over the place. If you have good mid & long range shooters then it makes it very easy to beat.

I think zones are somewhat of a 'cop out' in junior basketball, and even to an extent in seniors. In juniors we should be focusing on getting players fundamentals right, and having a solid base in man-to-man is pretty important. By U20s you are basically seniors anyhow, so I don't think it's a major development issue, probably more laziness than anything else.

I stand corrected! I had no idea...

I have heard only good things about Southern thus far. My only concern for them is when a team is revolved around 1 player, and that certain player leaves for the AIS or what-have-you, things fall apart.
But it seems they have good depth and will be a good competitor this year.

At least they are looking better than the Southern youngsters, who have declined profusely.

Supercoach himself cant even bring these boys to losing by less than 80

It will be interesting to see how southern go against a good team like north or woodville "the scrap team" and maybe even south. They have only played the bottom teams so far. Stay tuned.

south vs tigers this friday at marion crt 2, 9:45

which team is the benchmark in the league so far?

Probably too early to tell as there have not been many top 5 team showdowns, but Tigers and North do look strong. Woodville almost went down to South so I'm not sure about them.

three teams i've seen play so far

Southern- the benchmark so far if they can carry it for the whole season remains to be seen
Woodies- desprate defence with good outside shooters
Norwood- shut down max and u shut down thier whole team no inside strength

woodies desperate defence is all because of the squades motto....

Kings of scrap!!!

They will rule soon....

There are 3 other teams in div 1 who have less points scored against them than woodville. So they are the 4th best kings of scrap.

This just in...

Southern Spanked South by twenty odd with six players. They look in good form but like everyone have a long way to go.

You all seem to be forgetting its summer season... so its really only a chance for everyone to sus out the competition. The winter season is much longer so anything can happen.

oh yeah, did i mention the tigers dominated not only above the rim, with three of the years best dunks so far, coming from jingles and woody, but also showed mad hustle. If you ask me they scrap as good as anyone. If not better. Some sweet shooting going on out there too.

The tigers will lose joe, Smitty and lalic for a while. but they will be sure contenders.

whatyarekon

Sounds like some big dunks, also sounds like a good effort against south.

This weeks games will be "the battle of who isnt going to schoolies"

Should be funny.

p.s. Scrapping isn't determined by defencive rankings...it's determined by the number of woodburns you have on parts of your body that you didnt know even hit the floor

I put my money on woodville over north by atleast 10. Woodville is in very good form, there is not one weak player in that team.
However Tigers and Woodville i couldn't pick it. But the game is at the Dome this weekend and i WONT be missing it! Will tigers have full team for this game? They will definately need it.

I've heard the Joe has now left to go to the AIS this week, therefore he wont be playing on friday, I may be wrong though. I still believe Tigers will beat Woodville though.

And yes as said, it all depends who has a full team without players going to schoolies. Should be interesting.

You Heard wrong on the Grapevine. Joe and Daniel Lalic are leaving for the SASI tour this week sometime. Joe does not GO to the AIS until mid January.

ahh ok... still means wont be playing though right?

Yep, but shows that you shouldn't necessarily listen to the grapevine because often people don't know what they are talknig about.

How many players do Southern have playing this week (19/11)?

Speaking to a mate of mine woodville are losing a few players to schoolies aswell. Luckily they are bringing a gun div 2 up this week.. which brings it to 6 players. Is anyone decent still playing from noarlunga?

If woodville and tigers were at full strength, tiger would win. They are too tall and too talented. Due to schoolies, we will see different results compared to full strength teams playing. It's a good chance for woodville to get a win over tigers if they don't spend too much time on the floor getting wood burn (good work sir spark), not many other teams will get a chance for a win there, and south could get a needed win over eagles.

This week will be lackluster at best.
All teams with players out, and the people that are playing will be thinking about partying.

P.s. Wood burns win matches

Tigers only got five players tonight. Joe and Lalic on Tour. Woody injured. Shane Boal ? ? ? might be back from injury, not sure.

Anyway regardless of tonights result, you cant say which team is better without seeing them both at full strength. Which wont be at least till finals if not winter season.

But my bet. Southern tigers... Too tall and talented... i mean who in that woodville team has ever even played state let alone AIS???

woodville got up by 20 tonight.

None made SASI apart from one first year, but many deserved a spot i can't mention names.. but still if they are undefeated and do well every season you would think they do! Woodville were missing 3 tonight, southern were missing about the same.

the gun playa from div2 was a red headed stinka he was only playing on a rotation system which will be scraped after his performance. truely a oppertunity lost

Woodville had 3 players out, 2 hung over and 1 up from div 2.

Friday night was a boring game, the predicted battle of who didn't go to schoolies was evident.

Southern were missing big players, as they only had 5 it was always going to be a battle, the game was closer than the end result indicates and they did well to compete...even though it there was a "cbf" (cant be f****d) atmosphere in the game by both teams.

Nevertheless Woodies up by 20 and sitting equal top with North as far as I have heard.

Woodville are a clear game ahead on the ladder, although according to sportingpulse, North haven't played a 6th game.

I think its more that north and west have alot of players away rather than a couple. (North 4, west 3, southern 2, sturt, forestville and norwood 1 each). But southern are a quility team and can probably have the players away more than west and north. I think this could be a reason.

By the way, does anyone have any scores/stats for the tour??

Take Luck, you are on the right track.
I think you will find that a team must have THREE or more players away before BASA will postpone games.

take luck - if you go to the general forum, scott butler has posted a report. the boys have only played one game so far against Des Moines ARea Community College and lost by about 30. they start a tournament tomorrow (27th in Aust) they are playing in the Iowa Central Community College Tournament on 28th Grand View College on the 30th
and Iowa Western Community College on 1st you can go to the college websites and they post the scores - give it a couple of days after the games to get the scores updated. they head off to spain on the 2nd december and start playing on the 4th. i am still trying to work out if i can access the spanish college websites, but hopefully scott or justin will have time to post summaries.

Woodville vs. Forrestville
A DRAW! 76 all.

Woodville with only 6 players, missing their 3 big men.
Forrestville with only 7, you could only assume they were also missing players.

Twas a stinker of a match, stadium temps must have been 35c at least, plus a heap of humidity

lucky you always come 30 minutes late sir spark so by the time you came to the game the temp was down to 25c.

Touche, Mr Cheezeburger

I hear you have heard of my dramatic struggle.

I am still licking my wounds from that severe lash out

ask for another

Anybody got any results from the weekend or anything?
Whats the haps with the ladder?
....this thread is starting to suck

Agreed that they are 2 quality players, but they only have a small handfull of other players to back them up. u20's is a team game, not even Brad Newely could take the eagles far last season (I dont think he played the full season...but when he did play there was no real threat, and we won comfortably)

P.S. Your typing sucks dude, that first line was a doozie.

is "Sir Spark" the golden locks scrapper from the number 1 team in the comp?

Errr....Newley played 3 games in Summer season for Forestville last year. That was it. He was off doing more important things like winning gold medals and furthering his NBL prospects by winning the SEABL U23 Player of the Year Award.

Forestville came 4th - only after a tight loss to Woodville, and after losing Matt Gange for alot of the Winter season. Along with Hobo they were the only two state/SASI type players they had last season...not a bad effort.

Yeah general thing, 1 player cant win games for a team, and forrestville did alright without him either way.

Quack

What about the Lions....they havent lost a game by more than 9 all winter season. C'mon...

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