Anonymous
Years ago

MVP's promote or demote

It it standard practise for clubs to demote MVP's rather than promote them. It was my understanding that if you were awarded the "most valueable player" than you should be looked at for a higher division rather than a lower one. Any other clubs out there doing this.

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123abc  
Years ago

WTF? Lower devision? MVP?

Ahh... you must mean when you move up an age group...

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123abc  
Years ago

sorry, DIVISION

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Depends.
MVP for a team may mean thats where you are at.It doesnt mean u might work in the next groups scenario for many reasons and if you ask that coach he may give u an honest answer
Also MVP selection is one coaches opinion,not necessarily the next coaches opinion.
And wouldnt it be true that you havent been demoted just not promoted.

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olskoolgamer  
Years ago

Man, this could restart the whole promotion/relegation argument!! Each team has to supply an MVP and a LVP (Least value player), and the LVP goes down, the MVP goes up!

The MVP of div one could win a meat tray. :-)

But seriously, I agree with annon #99945, it all depends on the team above, whether the player will fit into the team, etc. There may just be too big a gap between the two divs.

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irrelavent  
Years ago

MVP is a coaches choice for what ever reason, sometimes to justify the time and effort they put into certain kids. They are meaningless quite often in the context of development. It is funny how kids know pecking orders and these awards are quite often tainted as coaches have favourites and love childs. Happens quite often down marion way.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Trophies and awards are nearly always contentious and less often than once, ridiculous.
I used to subscribe to no awards at junior level because of those reasons but seniors fare little better.
The MVP in the women's final was not a unanimously popular choice , that's not to say she was underserving but its hard to convince a lot of astute judges that points and points alone get awards. The men's award could also have gone to others equally deserving.
A couple of well known country regions(no not Whyalla) are family like affairs with trophies decided on if your related or how close you are to those running the club or so the story goes.
In short, treat all awards at all levels as an opinion and make sure you play to win ,not for a trophy, 'cause aunt Mary's grandson or daughter is going to get that.

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KID  
Years ago

I totally agree, it is like the TI camps seems to be if you are realated to someone with a "name" you automatically get MVP it is a joke, go mess around etc and it doesn't matter you have the name.

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odin  
Years ago

MVP doesnt count toward where a player is placed the next year, or the year after.(teams are picked well before awards anyway)
In first place they are the MVP of the team they play in, not the club or even the division they play in.
Now if you were MVP of a team that won the grand final by 50 points, you have an argument where did the team finish ?
Secondly the next year there are players from the next year level comming up and new players to be considered and only look at those in your position, you may be a better player than the centre but if your short, you wont replace him/her.
What the coach considers the most MVP is his/her opinion and what they are looking for.
Was the coach that awarded you the position a sasi/state or national coach?.
Was he/she a level 0,1,2 or 3 How long has he/she been coaching. It could be they fail to understand the difference beteween a good player and a show pony maybe you just looked good, but in reality weren't playing good basketball.
Maybe you were beat out by people with with more talent. if you are unhappy and think you should be in a higher grade try another club.

So in short the award should be enjoyed for what it is a recognition from your coach on your performance. Its not a free ride for future grading. each year you have to get better and beat those in front of you, thats what competitive sport is about.
It about what the next coach wants, not what the last coach thinks.
Look forward talk to the club about why you weren't put where you think you should be and work on those aspects of the game.

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Know it alls  
Years ago

Obviously if you get an MVP there would be reasons behind it. It doesn't mean that player is the best player out there it may be that player is the coach's pet.
Coach's will always do what is best for their team.
Maybe being in a lower grade would give that player the opportunity to gain confidence and skills that are necessary to be in higher divisions.
Obviously one would talk to the coach's involved and the club involved. But if they believe this is best for that player maybe there is something to that. They probably know what they are doing.
As a last resort go to another club that only have teams in the higher divisions and you wont have to worry about being selected for a low one but you will have to put up with getting thrashed every week.

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know your coach  
Years ago

If this is who i think it is, i am not surprised why this kid got the MVP ! Now the reson for his placement apart from not having learnt how to play the game (not his fault) he had a season off and if the former coach could learn how to keep his mouth shut thinks would not get heated . But lets not concurn our selves with this player if it is who i think it is they have made a higher grade by going to that supper club WESTERN MAGIC!

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