I won't confirm that. Not sure what's public information and what's not. But you can definitely assume that his return for the ABA season is not guaranteed.

Doesn't Sturt have the Chek Book?

I think you'll find that as off next year no players will be getting paid. I think you'll find a new senior coach that is huge on development and I think you'll find that those players that are not willing to play for the club on a loyalty basis instead of a cash basis will be gone.

Sturt are far more advanced then some of the other clubs. The loss of a stadium has obviously put them in more of a decline, but have a look at the juniors results

http://www.sportingpulse.com.au/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-3-0-0-0&sID=751&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=998410§ionID=751

Sturt = 7 Premier Teams

Woodville, West Adelaide, Western Magic + Southern tally 7 Together

IMO, I think Sturt at least will find a way. They have some pretty damn good players still - Shephard, Hakkas, Dodman, Gower, and some younger guys that may be ready to step up. Plus they'll recruit, and quite possibly sign a big name like they somehow manage to do every year. I think they will be fine. The women obviously have more than just the Bowleys (to win the Championship) so I'm sure they'll be fine too. Although both teams might not be the powerhouses they have been over the last few years, they still won't be far off the mark.
Eastern, on the other hand Panther, I think you're right unfortunately. From everything I have heard they are really struggling..

I think what 99316 is alluding to is a) genius, and b) incredibly underhanded. Don't think can be stopped though, right?

If what you say is correct maybe South will be a good chance to make the play Offs next year??

This is news to me, things are good inside the Death Star at the moment. Juniors are going quite nicely and Libertine, I think you will find we have plenty of good juniors just waiting for an opportunity to play seniors, if some of the current players do not play. Money is a bit tight at the moment, but this is a temporary setback.

And 99306, all of the women and the majority of the men in last year's teams came from our junior program, I'm not sure what you are getting at? Our 20's next year will be very competitive in both boys and girls.

Recent college players include Tod Matthews (OIT in Oregon) and currently we have Katie Langford at Oral Roberts. Many of the Under 16's, 18's and 20's are looking to go to college in the next few years.

In summary, business as usual.

I thought Todd Matthews was Norwood boy?
also when did Monz ever anounce her retirment
I think you will find she will be back in force if she is not picked up by another wnbl club

Nope, Sturt from 10's to 18's. Moved to Norwood in 20's and then went to OIT for 4 years where he was an NAIA All American and won a National title.

south make play offs ha.they finish 3 to last did they and wheres the players come from.

Fantastic english there anonymous poster #99353, let me guess you would be from a)Elizabeth or b)Morphett Vale???
This isn't a Sturt Bashing people, it was just an outright question so please don't start on the club. They have been one of the most successful clubs in history but right now look like they are struggling. Eastern on the other hand.....

How can they be struggling when they haven't played a game yet?

Eastern men made playoffs last 6 years champs in 04 thought that would be termed reasonably successfull. Panther tell me about the success of the Panthers during this period have they made the playoffs?? Many people keen to right Mavericks off,dont be too sure of their demise.

Panther,

A little un-called with the Elizabeth/Morphett Vale remark, don't you think?

Why don't we just wait until the clubs make a statement or something happens?

Little early to pass too much judgement, but should be interesting none-the-less.

Don't know why I bother with such a tool of a thread.
Sturt will survive long term because it has an excellent junior program - as do a small number of other easy to spot clubs.
Senior programs can either be grown or bought.
Where does South's development program fit in the scheme of things Panther??
Its a farce of a joke of a sham - on a good day.

it is all polly waffle

sturt are doing fine - plenty of juniors to step up anyway

club has plenty of power to recruit quality if required

pasadena is a pain and would be hurting morale and finances for sure

should be back on line over next 12 months

mavericks are very thin at present and down on numbers - however the hills have a lot of young families building and with the right people in place they should recover

their senior squads should be able to recuit fringe non required players from larger clubs

Got what in one?

SB I don't doubt the amazing results of Sturt's juniors, and their success (ie Hill, Holmes, Dodman, Forman coming through, and many others on the way esp in 16s/bottom age 18s now etc).

I just think it's a genius idea for one club to setup a system that doesn't pay senior basketball but at the same time allows young potentials to play ABA and at the same time put them in the College shop window. Not implying that Sturt is doing it (I would have no idea), someone two or three posts above me did!

PS I think Panther was just having fun stirring the pot.

Geez it's great to get people fired up, it's like dangling a worm in front of a fish!
The Elizabeth/ Morphett Vale comment was a tongue in cheek comment as yes I played at Morphett Vale for the Tigers back in my junior years and have lived at Willunga and McLaren Vale. I could probably easily find statistics to prove that I am right in making these comments but won't.
It is quite obvious that Sturt are going through a tough period right now and both the Mens and womens teams will be lacking a few of the stars, and I think I have been right in my original comments as no one has come out corrected me.
It's also funny to note that when there is something wrong that people try to change the subject or point the focus to another topic as in most of the responses have been.
If your are all so concerned about South juniors then why not hold that thought for a while as we have got some great coaches in place and have a fantastic junior co-ordinator and development officer who will really start to make things happen at the club over the next couple of years, but really this is a whole new topic!
I now that Sturt will recover eventually from this and SB is right in saying they are a strongly supported club which helps, but I don't see the senior team putting in a huge effort next season, but we can only wait and see.
Eastern on the other hand are a small club who seem to have hit there peak and are slowly winding down. It would be a shame to lose another club if it does happen, let's hope that the developing town of Mount Barker starts to reproduce quickly and starts filling those vacant junior teams!
But like I said, nothing from my original post has been disputed so to fuel the fire...once again i'm RIGHT!

Pffft

"let's hope that the developing town of Mount Barker starts to reproduce quickly"

..why don't you and the South boys have a night on the town in the Hills - that should kick start things quite nicely! At this stage we wont worry about the quality of the reproducing - we'll go for quantity instead.

There is not enough alcohol in Mount Barker to get us boys drunk enough to sleep with one of your local women!!!

Is that you Yogee posting under Pather's name?

south cant even keep there juniors let alone build it up.

Hey Panther, while you're hanging shit on Mt Barker, do u care to explain why u and your teammates can't pick up any of your South females...?

They don't like your type, do they?

no offence Panther I don't even know who you are but judging by what you've written i doubt there's any local women from the hills that'd even give you a look in.....so far you've given crap to elizabeth, morphett vale, any woman from mt barker (which actually includes a fwe eastern girls). how many more people can you bag?

the day is young, hang around!!

I doubt the supporters have had anything there to cheer about recently...

Well said!

It's pretty easy to deny things with neither support or a name isn't it?
And let me guess, the club isn't struggling financially and they will be paying their BSA fees next season...sorry speak up I can't here you over the bullshit you've just dribbled.......

Panther - quit while you are behind! The more you go on the more you look like a knob. How about you keep your focus on your club and let the others worry about theirs!

Sorry my bad MS, I thought this was a "basketball forum" not a South forum. Who knew that you could only discuss your own club....

Panther,

It is also pretty easy to claim things like you have without evidence. Show me your evidence and I will show you mine.

Sturt may be struggling financially due to the stadium closure, but will be paying it's fee's. ABA teams will be getting pay, but the aim is to make the program more self sufficient.

Unlike clubs like South who have robbed their junior players of any development and spent all of their fee's on paying seniors, clubs like Sturt provide their members with quality coaching and development.

Again I reiterate, what have South done over the last year.

Nothing, well other than talk themsleves up on this forum and follow through without any results.

If you want somehting tangible. Look at the fact that South scored 1 point in the State junior Championships and at this stage don't look like doing any better this year. Or that their senior teams failed tomake the finals, and look like being worse again this year.

You mate, are a hack. And are way out of your league when discussing developmental type programs for clubs. If you spent as much time trying to help your club as you claimed, they wouldn't be in the trouble they are in. As above said, they are the club that gives all a fair go of paying fee's so that their seniors can get paid.