I think it would be a more legitamate excuse if Horvarth was only scoring 10 points a night and not getting the ball.....clearly this isnt the case. As our opposition adjust to us now having a legitimate big who is scoring, the outside shots will open up a bit more and our outside game will pick up to compliment our inside options

Until the defense adjusts, surely you keep going at Horvath then? He was making 60+% which is double the starting guard combo were hitting.

I'm surprised we didn't start Horvath and Cooper (both in form), Majstro at SF. Then send one of the big men to the bench after 5-6 minutes, bring in Hill or Copes, push Majstro to PF (where he started in Singapore). Then swap in Coops for Horvath to give him a rest.

Horvath has done just fine at presenting the outside shot option too, and Cooper is no stranger to rebounding when his co-big man has drifted out of the key.

Isaac...I was suprised at the starting line up as well. I certainly didn't expect to see Copeland starting. I was expecting Maher, Farley, Horvath, Cooper and either Nash or Maj.

Agreed Isaac - he is scoring well so keep going to him.....at this stage Id be leaning more towards it being a dodgy excuse :)

I would think about the only person with any legitimate problem may be Farley - and I onyl say that because I dont know who he played with prior to the 36ers.

Maher & Ng - have had the Big O in the pivot at Sturt for a while, plus Maher would be use to having good big men in the Boomers.

Nash has worked with big men prior to being in Adelaide, and Copes, well yeah we all know who he worked with.

Hill may have some issues, as he may not have worked with a NBL big man.

Yeah, I dont think the excuse really works anymore, and the fact that Horvath is scoring well would suggest there is not that much of a problem at the moment anyway.

Ng before Sturt had Rees, Whitmore, Bradley, Josephs in the middle at Woodville.

Hill, played at the AIS they surely had big guys and Eastern aren't a short side.

Copeland played majority of his career with Bradtke and Timmons, they aren't in the guard category.

another hack excuse for when we lose.

My season tickets are looking like misspent money at the moment.

Maybe the fans should buy tickets with Monopoly money until Phil has the team ready. "Don't worry, you'll be seeing some real money in about 4-6 weeks!" Just kidding.

3 spot is the concern. Copeland should be coming in off the bench with a licence to 'thrill'. If he's hot leave him on and if not get him off and try again later. This style of play for him would also suit his 'advancing years', and may even prolong his career further if that's what he gets noted for. Mr. 'nice guy' Phil has never been good with getting tough on decisions for minutes.You simply can't play 10 players. All you get is more guys pissed off rather than a core group happy.

Alarm bells ringing after one loss that nobody saw any footage of????

I think we need to let the new guys settle in before we start righting off the season.

I think it will take a few "real" games for not only the players to become accustom to each other but for Phil & Steve to know where every player on the roster will fit.

Have faith people....the boys will be around the mark come the playoffs!

Randy, I believe that's what pre-season games are for.

Is it really a point of whether or not a player has played with a big man or not??? Their whole careers would be built around getting the ball to the preferred option and generally this comes from the offence which is run! So maybe look at whether or not Phil has a structured offence instead of his run and gun shoot if your open offence.
I think Phil is grasping to the hope that Copes is going to be the next D-Mac this season, but as everyone else on here has said, he's going to be better utilised coming off the bench. Why not start Cooper or Wheels with Horvath and play two inside guys in a half court set and perhaps bring Horvath out on a running offence??? We don't have Jacob inside anymore grabbing rebounds so if Horvath goes outside who's going to rebound for us??? Majstro won't grab ten boards consistently so put another big in there!
I'm sure Phil will work out his starting lineups a bit better as time goes by, let's just hope we can jag a few games early on in the peice so we don't get too far behind.

Whats worng with playing the good old "in - out" offence. Horvath is a great inside presence, we have good perimiter shooters who are quick and can take it to the basket if needed. If they speard the defence out to the arc than put it in to Horvath and he can score. Also with either cooper or wheeler on the floor than we have good ofensive rebounders.

Its nearly fool proof

Hear Hear Randy Watson!!!
Right On!!!!

But Randy I've forked out alot of money for season tickets and so far all i've seen is ordinary and all i've heard is excuses.

I agree with Isaac, I'd like the first 1/3 of the season refunded to me so i can pay with fake money because the team isn't ready yet.

Let's forget about Horvath, he looks like he is going to be a very useful player. I am more concerned about our friend Mark Nash. His numbers were once again pathetic, as is the continual praise that Boti Nagy heaps on him. To suggest that he would be in the running for best 6th man in the league is simply unbelieveable!
if we are going to have any success this season, then Nash must be sat on the bench, and by doing that, his contribution would be very similar.

hand back ya tickets blair not great loss imo