Stephen D
Years ago

Making junior Comps more even

In basketball terms, you are unlucky if you birthday falls in November or December. You tend to be the youngest in the team, and playing against boys/girls who could be 11 or 23 months older than you.

My one complaint about junior basketball is the amount of one sided games that gets played each year. It must be difficult on both sides.

One seeems to get the same sides playing in the finals avery season, and some sides never making the finals.

My proposal is to give the sides that do not do so well, some concessions with players who just fall outside the age bracket.

Each of the clubs that do not make the top 5, the ability to apply to play 2 "over age" players [say not more than 3 months over age] to play in the Div 1 side.

This should strengthen the Div 1 side, plus have a strengthening domino effect all the way down to the lower divisions.

Hopefully this will evan out the competition a little.

State championships however should be played in the usual manner, with no age concessions.

There are a couple of down points to this suggestion.
Basketball SA would need to give permission at the beginning of the season to the 2 players. This will take some administration.

These 2 players however will knock 2 correctly aged players into a lower division.
Maybe overcome this by having bigger squads, or a rotation policy?

I do think that this could work.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It won't work and without getting into an arguement the stronger clubs are strong for a reason.

Giving the other clubs an easy out is extremely unfair. And who's to say the older kids would want to play down an age group and also would be any better then those that are there?

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twenty four  
Years ago

Yeah, it won't work. One point I want to make is, what will happen to the players who come down when/if the team reaches the finals?
Say a player is meant to go up to 16's, but stays down in 14's, at the end of the season will they only be 1st year 16's or do they have to become a 2nd year?

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age diference  
Years ago

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age diference  
Years ago

I agree something needs to be done about the ages, comparing a child turning 13 in January to a child turning 13 in december (already a year difference there) having to go up to under 16s the main season finishes at the end of september, so the december/november kids are actually still under 14 when that season finishes but have to play up. Why not look at the season dates to determine when a child goes up. Only a suggestion

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It doesn't really matter when the cut off date is - there is always someone's bithday that will be just in and others just out of an age zone.

Another option is whether or not there needs to be a two year age gap from say U10-U12's; can you have U9, U10, U11 & U12. Less divisions but similarity on ages.

However, I don't think age is the greatest issue. It is really the different rate of physical development at the early year sof growth. How you cover for that I don't know.

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later developer  
Years ago

Yes I agree the main issue is physical development, but not sure how to cover that. But maybe not having a 12 month age zone and reduce it to a 6 month zone might help. Or if they allow certain exemptions.

Would like to here what others feel.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

yea
the u/14 div 1 girls it was only the top 4 at least who were the compertion and there were still 20points diffrent

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The age zones are FIBA rules.

If people want to play in different age groups then play Church or social basketball.

Otherwise look to improve clubs by putting more resources into the junior program. The clubs which are doing the best are those who have had somebody activly involved in developing and promoting juniors.

And if you want closer games, either don't nominate in div 1 or tell your club to vote for Promotion/Relegation.

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get real  
Years ago

Wow, those ideas are absolutely ridiculous!

Maybe if your club paid more attention to junior development and less to their senior program we would not have this problem!

I am sick of weaker clubs providing shithouse competition week in week out! And before anyone rants about how cycles and dedicated coaches at all clubs, there is a reason some clubs are just not producing decent junior basketballers. Wa wa wa, complain! Geez, lets have a look at what the elite programs teach their kids (refer BA website and maybe ask someone other than your local PE teacher) and TEACH these kids how to dribble, pass, and shoot the ball properly! God, there are so many kids that can not shoot because some idiot has taught him/her to shoot across their face!

It all starts form the top. Executive committees committed to senior success. Its amazing how many parents allow their kids to be taught by uneducated coaches. Parents need to do a bit more research into who is teaching their kids and why certain clubs continuously produce great Q Grade basketballers and play them in higher grades.

If you want to have fun, go play social, church, or school ball.

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Michelle  
Years ago

Don't imagine for a minute that by opting out for Social/domestic basketball you will be without problems. There are issues in this environment too that have a serious effect on the quality of games and development. (desire to develop is not only restricted to district competitions)

Underage/overage, stacked teams beyond the "spirit of the competition to which games are to be played" are all commonplace.
All district teams playing purely social teams, players being taught the wrong thing by well meaning parents because no one else put their hand up, it happens across the board.

A common (seemingly) misinformed/ignorant reply I seem time and time again whenever someone complains about unfairness is 'go play social" .........

A junior development program is neeeded from grass roots starting at school (all schools where possible), rec centres etc etc is needed that has the genuine desire to produce a flow on effect to the absolute advantage of all juniors where ever they play or begin their game.






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Anonymous  
Years ago

Emphasis in u14s should be on development not winning. If given a good development program winning should come naturally later. Especially as a senior when age does not matter.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why do we talk about age v growth development all the time.

Ive seen enough kids who are huge, born later in the year, and smaller older kids....to balance things out.

Development in skills is the key.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Its amazing how many parents allow their kids to be taught by uneducated coaches. Parents need to do a bit more research into who is teaching their kids"

- That would be good. If this was to happen some of the current "strong" clubs at u12/u14/u16 level may not be so strong at that age level. Unfortunately parents are uneducated until they have been in the system for a while and its too late.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

tell your parents to stop shagging in february march and try for some mid winter action - birthdays should be in the first half of the year then !

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