Did you heat that Prince is getting divorced ?

I was bored too . lol

Vanilla Ice says Maurice White got his arse cut from div 3 and is angry cause his momma says that aint fair and he would start at any other club in the state.

Hey Maurice you may be white but you aint VANILLA!!

Skyhook, The Hoff wasn't allowed onto a plane at Heathrow because he was drunk(again).

You said

"Most players playing ABL have played basketball from a young age, have paid their fee's etc so when they do reach ABL level they should get some form of payment - depending on their commitment and talent etc.


Their parents paid for their shoes, fee's, travel etc... Do the players give their money to their parents like a hex debt?

Most basketball players have played from a young age and continue to play basketball at a social level, do they expect their shoes and fee's to be paid?

There would still be ABL if they didn't play players.

If the level of basketbal was good then people would go and watch.

It isn't and they don't.

Most players would still play if they were not paid. It does help with the costs of getting to trainings and shoes etc.

But im sure there are much more important things clubs could be doing with junior fees.

Mr I Disagree,

Obviously you don't know what ABL players are getting paid for you to make hypothetical and unknowledgable comments.

What are the 'small sums' players are getting paid that you talk of???

Your comments don't make a lot of sense(other than me being a monkey)

Vanilla Ice, I'm trying to work this out.

The better players on most ABL teams would get about $100 a week if they are lucky. The top players and imports a bit more, and the average players nothing to about $40. That is absolutely bugger all.
And the worst ABL player in this state could go and score 50 points in any social game they wanted to at will (and bust your ass in the process Maurice).
You idiot

Maurice White- Are you for serious or trying to stir some shit on a quiet Friday arvo.
Unfortunately most clubs simply do not have the money to reward ABA players for their time and commitment. When you compare the $$$ on offer to play amatuer or country football, it is disappointing that there is not more reimbursement

Cockstock,

The better players are luckier than you think, they get paid a lot more than those figures. They get well over $200 and some are twice that.

The scrubbers at the end of the bench at some clubs start at $50. And as you said they are 'average' players.

From your tone I would assume that you are a scrubber who isn't good enough to get legitimate playing time in ABL(even in a non finals team) but plays his little heart out in reserves. You struggle sleeping every night with the thought 'I'm not good enough to play on a shit team but If I play social I could play a whole game and average 13.5 pts a game'.

The worst players in the ABL are social players, like you putz.

Maurice, your a dirt merchant.

The majority of ABA players aren't living in mum and dads pockets anymore.
This year the league has been VERY competitive and featured players of the ilk of Forman, Cooper, Smylie, Ng, Holmes, Hill .... all NBL quality. Then you have the Gerlachs, Madgens, Molitors, Scanlons that have posted massive numbers and are pushing the guys mentioned above.
There may not be 6'8 black fella raining down windmills on everyone but that doesnt make a great contest.
Another thing to consider is the VERY minimal money some of these guys get paid doesnt even scrath the surface of running costs ( Petrol, tape, shoes etc..) and god forbid they hurt themselves and spend the next 2-6 weeks getting regular physio treatment etc...

If i was a monkey, and i may be, i sure dont want to be called Maurice!

Perhaps all players should get a pair of shoes and their ankle tape paid for.

I believe players would still play if they weren't getting paid $250 a game.

Wouldn't clubs turnaround if $15,000 - $20,000 was being paid to their junior coaches?

You would get great coaches therefore better players.

"cant " should be "can"

WOW! X's and O's, F and U!

Six players in the ABL play NBL. Woop De Doo Doo. What a TOUGH league the ABL is!!! LOL

Massive numbers from Madgen, Gerlach, Scanlon your proving my point!! The league isn't very good therefore they shouldn't be paid.

Paying for travel costs?? It's not a job! they should be playing because they enjoy it and want to play for their club.

Is your Mum going to start wanting petrol allowance from the pub for playing their pokies?

There hasn't been a target on this forum like Maurice since John Lawrence advertised his forum. Line up forum users, this is going to be fun.

A conspiracy theory for you, thedoctor: has anyone conclusively proven that the two identities you mentioned are, in fact, "two" people? Could it be that they are just the one person instead? ;)

Maurice, I am sorry you were abused as a child. Clearly, the effects are still on display. If you want, I can meet you down Foot Locker and buy you a pair of shoes off the bargain table if you feel you should be getting paid for your c-grade social comp games???? What do you think? I'll even stop by Chem-plus and pickup a roll of ankle tape if it will make you happy??

The large figures you quote are either:
1. based on amounts from Eastern State leagues where there is more money involved and imports are common place, or
2. for a very select few who infact could argue the payment is earned for the exposure they bring to the club, which would include that exposure helping encourage juniors to keep playing the game.

All ABA players play for the love of the game. Any comment otherwise is absurd! Sacrificing so much time each week to be at trainings then games on the weekends, plus attending junior functions at times to help out where possible. The costs of petrol, tape, etc are expensive and any type of help is appreciated. Same goes for club footy, cricket, etc, etc.

Just stick to playing your NBA Live on the X-box chief, don't need losers like you out there spoiling our game....

Bo, for all of John Lawrence's shortcomings, the guy is very passionate about basketball, and would never bag the ABA/ABL.

By the way, Kevin Pittsnoggle got signed by the Celtics today.

Maurice White, your argument is based on the false premise that guys like madgen, gerlach and scanlon are getting paid good money which is wrong. Unless you play for forestville or woodville (in the past) you are going to be playing for a pittance and only then if you are in the top 3 or 4 players.

Why are people so UNKIND ??

Where's James Pennington or Bizzy when you need them ?

all the costs for abl players well is the same for the junior they train twice a week travel same stadiums whoever started this thread has no idea - the abl players get paid if they are good enough because they are just that -good abl players - heck if they were better they be nba playing for mega bucks - they get paid because there is some money available good luck to those that do and thanks to those who play because they love the game

Guys lets not be harsh, Maurice heard from this guy walking down rundle mall, that was friends with the local butcher, who knew the pet store owner, that sold the dog, the dog bred with the neighbours dog and was given to an anonymous ABL players friends mother. She said that all ABL players were getting 200 a game as Maurice said so it MUST be true. Plus he wrote it in his year seven assignment last week, and it got a B+... so it is FACT.

Secondly Maurice to answer another of your questions, I go to many ABL games as do many other people that are NOT related to players as you say, there are a few more people there than mummy and daddy watching.

Lastly what is a hex debt mate, is this your arrangement with mummy for her pokies fee as you suggest?

PS. the local redneck three doors down says you need to be "slapped upside the head".

Dear Maurice,

Please turn off the lights on the way out - no, sorry, the lights have been out for a long time.

What is wrong with the top level of the sport in the state being paid pocket money for playing sport? If you took what is being paid to all the ABA players at the moment and used it to pay the junior coaches, they would be lucky to get a Mars bar each.

I enjoy watching the ABA, with the best of the rest strutting their stuff against the occasional 36er or Lightning player.

Don't begrudge the ABA players because you have to coach the U10's for nothing.

Hell im a bench scrubber. Wish i got $50 per game...

Paddy, you're still way in front of our friend Maurice...

Isaac, Please ban ill informed idiots like maurice white from the forum

If any abl players have ambitions to play college they cannot except a payment or they will not be able to play!!

You people are too easy to get revved up. He's obviously not being serious. why don't we all relax and stop being so serious

The competition between clubs at ABL level is fierce. If clubs are paying players, its the clubs responsibility as they want to attract the best players. Paying them does this. Paying them also keeps players consistently playing week in and week out unless they are injured. This consistency in attendance also assists in consistent results for their teams. How easy would it be for players to say "oh I don't really feel like turning up for a game tonight, I would rather stay home and watch a movie in my nice warm lounge room or go out with my mates". What keeps people going to work? The fact that they are paid to go. Its the competitiveness of the sport that forces clubs to pay the players to get the results that they want. That's the reason why the better players are also paid more because they are needed the most and an enticement is needed for them. It doesn't matter whether people agree that they should be paid or not, this is determined by the clubs and how successful they want to be.

i no for a fact that at some clubs they give "presents"to the players such as a laptop,shoes or something that may be of use to them! It does get around the fact that you are not paying them. South adelaide are in debt because they payed ronn Nunnley and are regretting it.Clubs just cant afford it!

EC - the point is: they aren't doing it for the money.

I think ABL players earn every cent they get, anyone complaining about SANFL players recieving payment, ABL is the same standard as SANFL, and in sports such as footy, some Country and Amature leaguue players get paid. Just because they are not all in the NBL or NBA deosnt mean they are bad players, guys like Dix and Vandenberg would be good enough to play NBL, so i think they deserve every cent they get, and at a guess they wouldnt recieve much anyway, especially comparing them to NBL, NBA and Europe leagues

I know U/17 footy players that get paid petrol money and you guys arecomplaining about the top players in the top league in the state getting paid??

Absolutely.

Tape, petrol, Div.2, training, pre-season, team building..

All these things add up, and whilst some of them may be attributed to the whole team, you don't want your players paying for the camp they go on in January to help with team spirit.

There is something about playing on a team where you don't have to worry about tape, you know there will be a box of it waiting for you at training, and you can grab a couple of rolls for the week.

If players are serious about their ball, they would be driving to games on the weekend, driving to training twice a week, some will be driving to play reserves on Tuesdays, and then probably driving to a gym once a week to work on their shot. That a lot of petrol, especially at these prices.

Maybe instead of saying "paid", why not subsidised? Give each player tape, negotiate a gym that they can go to on set days, provide them with a petrol allowance, maybe have a good end of season wind up that is paid for. The little things will help keep players at clubs over those that don't.

Could it be argued if your players are happy off the court, they will be happy on the court?

Brad, South are one of three clubs not in debt.

I wouldn't go to ABL games if the better known players were not suiting. I suspect that NBL players (Cooper, Forman, Holmes, etc) would play in NZ if there was no money in the ABL here.

I have long said that more should be done to promote the ABL and get people to games so that senior teams can do more to be self-sufficient.

In my opinion, ABL players should be paid, but where possible they should not be funded by junior programs - maybe that's a bit of an unachievable situation in Adelaide, but I don't think enough has been tried for the community to stand back and say that it's impossible.

If i ever find out who Maurice White is i am going to punch him in the head. That's if i can reach that low!!!

Honestly, what a low life.

I am stunned it took 3/4 of this thread for someone to mention the cost of Health Insurance.

If we take the example of an average player getting paid $1000 for a season. To strengthen the argument lets double it to $2000.

Now deduct the following estimated costs that players encounter:

Petrol ($60 / month)
Health Insurance ($60 / month)
Gym Membership ($75 / month)
Shoes ($250 / year)

Over the course of the December (pre-season) to August ABL season thats 9 months.

Total cost = $2005.00

Now consider the cost of tape, the occasional physio visit, reserves games. Factor the loss of other oppurtunity or income due to committing around 10 hours a week to a sport.

At the end of the day, i take my hat off to those who commit themselves to basketball at ABL level. We all should.

mott the hoople,I no as a fact they are in debt,my mum was treasurer for years at that club and for some stupid reason the bank keeps on sending her letters from the bank regarding there finances.stuffed up there mate

"my mum was treasurer for years at that club and for some stupid reason the bank keeps on sending her letters from the bank regarding there finances.stuffed up there mate"
Well if she was the treasurer and no longer is then why is she openeing these letters when clearly she is not meant to.

Uncle Chop Chop,

How much does it cost families to support your air balls?

Well lets see, approximately with 2 kids playing it might average:

Fee's x 2 = $500.00 p.a

Uniforms x 2 = $100.00 p.a

Entry x 2 = $ 300.00 p.a

Petrol $720.00 p.a

Shoes x 2 $300 p.a

Carnival costs $500 p.a

Total approx $2,500.00

Uncle Chop Chop no one comes to watch you play!

Why should I pay for you to go to a gym or pay for your health insurance?

Already my taxes pay for your frequent trips to Glenside.

What's this B/S about loss of opportunity & income? You play basketball because you enjoy it, its sport, its supposed to be fun. Basketball doesn't owe you anything. Your best memories are from playing and enjoying the friends you've made along the way - try and put a price on that.