brad
Years ago
country clubs
hey just wondering how the country clubs compare to the city clubs? havent actually seen much of the country talent? can any1 fill me in
brad
Years ago
hey just wondering how the country clubs compare to the city clubs? havent actually seen much of the country talent? can any1 fill me in
brad - your sturt bashing is getting old mate.
Post something constructive!
oracle
Years ago
maybe refer to associations - not individual clubs in teh country
most relate to population - bigger associations = better teams
lincoln - is improving - but not much of a scene
whyalla - can be really good or bad
augusta - usually very good
pirie - like ausgusta - pretty good - few kids play in adel
yorke valley - very good for populus
southern yorke - really good or non existant - on a quiet patch at present
adelaide plains - all is quiet - have provided good players previously
mid north / clare - not much of a scene
barossa - usually supply very good players - close enough to adel
bridge - most go to mavericks
bordertown - nnot much of a scene
naracoorte - depends
millicent - usually very good for populus
mt gambier - always have good teams
riverland - since all the associations combined - they are right up there
mildura - always very good
broken hill - sometimes quite good - other times mickey mouse
brad
Years ago
im nt sturt bashn i just wanna no if any country teams compare to any city teams.gees get over it
understand, brad, that the good country players often play for city teams. If you are a south player (div 1), then you'll know that. One of your team mates is from the country.
Its impossible to compare the two, because of the overlap of players.
In general, city teams are better, but better country teams could compete in the city comp.
Clear?
have you heard that this forum allows more than 160 characters?
oracle
Years ago
the average country association representative player senior / junior will be div 3-4-5 metro standard
better players are div 2 standard
probably the top 5-10% max would be div 1 standard
one key point is depth - in a country team you may get 2-3 really good players with not much after that
oracle - the average country player plays for fun, not to appease their parents.
most of them are netballers/footballers keeping fit in between seasons. This is evident by the fact that some of the larger associations (pt Augusta for exmaple) don't even have a winter comp!
The Best div 1 country team in each grade would compete at div 1 metro standard.
ie u14 Whyalla girls, u16 Pt Pirie Boys, u18 Mount Gambier Boys.
VC fan
Years ago
Thing is though most if not all of these Div 1 level country players also play district. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't all the U18 Murray Bridge team play Mavs Div 1 & 2?
annonymous
Years ago
Hey oracle,
Whats IMO.
Are you presently involved with Country, I mean you sound like you have been around the Country Champs to see what is going on.
oracle
Years ago
IMO
in my opinion
seen a few senior and junior country champs
there is no way any single country association could feild a competitive (ie top 4) Div 1 side
combined regional / associations - yes - ie lime stoned coasters
anon - I am glad you know the reason why ever country player "plays for fun - not for their parents"
that is why they feverishly hit the court ready to take it out against rival associations and parents drive their kids 100s of KMs - fun or ambitious vision ?
yes there are stand outs - dodman, bishop, langfords, seebum, sporn etc
oracle
Years ago
one point for discussion worth raising here is - how much longer are we going to consider mt barker and willunga country association teams / areas
back in 1960 fair enough - but nowdays they are metropolitan areas
patto
Years ago
oracle,
im head coach for whyalla and i think you obviously have a fair idea on the topic, as i agree with most of what you have posted. We entered our under 14 girls into state champs and got a touch up by city teams. we have a very talented group in that age group but were probably a bit naive to think we would do rally well. The main reason for this is that the country teams do not play together week in week out and do not get the exposure to playing high intensity, highly skilled gamed week in week out. But you just need to look at the starting line ups and star players in 14s, 16s and 18s in the district sides (girls anyway, im not up with the boys comp) and most of them come from the country. Besides the fact that the 16s and 18s (girls) country sides are probably better than metro and IMO if there was a !$s side they would be too. There is some good work being done in all associations in the country and producing quality players. By the way good luck to ALL SA teams in ballarat and adelaide this year. Go SA Country 18 girls!!!
oracle
Years ago
thanks whyalla
sorry i left marino off the stand out list
very fair assessment
Q at what stage does country stop claiming a junior boarding in adelaide?
whyalla does a good job - considering the distance and commitment - to compete with fringe country associations (mt barker, barossa, victor, bridge) that get the opportunity for that competitive game more often - you guys do well
I would also like to mention roxby and streaky bay - who been getting involved in the less competitive grades
Q - why don't we get an iron triangle team in the state champs - they would rock and could easily play Div 1 - lime stone coasters did it and it is working for them?
ITA
Years ago
Oracle,
I believe country kids remain country as long as their residential address is still in the country. Since many parents of boarders may still live country, they are country as they have not moved to metro. (I may be wrong, but believe this is the case).
bog
Years ago
who in the abl currently is from any of these areas oracle?
Rueben
Years ago
Just in the guys -
North
Shannon Hoffman - not sure, perhaps Barossa?
Michael Zorich - Murray Bridge (i think
Bronson Kies - Barossa
Jordie Kies - Barossa
Centrals
Jarod Palmer - Barossa
Eastern
Jacob Holmes - Eastern Hills
Ben Madgen - Barossa
Brad Hill - Eastern Hills
Brad Bungey - Barossa
Steve Williams - Broken Hill
Brad Davis - Eastern Hills
Southern
Joel Goodenough - Strath/Eastern Hills
Shane Boal - Willunga
Luke Schensher (not aba, NBA) - Willunga
Sturt
Jordan Dodman - Pt Augusta
Woodville
Lyall Gillet - Pt Augusta (i think)
that's off the top of my head, there may be more!
choco to baghdad
Years ago
that bald guy at sturt was in the riverland - palmer
Oracle if you went to the U14 country champs this year you would have seen Great Southern Boys. They would be very close to Div1 finals in town this year. Most of them played in the Mavs U12 team that won the winter premier ship two years ago. In fact your summary neglected there developing association. They have an ITC coach down there that puts their kids through the absolute ringer, but there are absolute diamonds emerging.
Vic
Years ago
its becoming more and more difficut for country teams to compete in the main stearm comp. Example beeing here in Victoria 'VC' the best leauge has 1 country team playing in it and 19 metro teams and that country team is Cario Bay Stingrays and thats about 110 Km south west of melbounre so for then every second week there in the card for a couple of hours.
so much good country teams going around but too far to travel.
Interesting fact i was at Latrobe and there was a bendingo team there and they flew there which is about 650 km distance so they opted to fly.
Take Aaron Bruce for exapmple for horsham(good luck in div 2 Boys) played for Eltham and from what i understand he would travel to Melboune every friday night play the game and sleep in melb until sunday morning training and after that he would go back home
Very intersting topic
Patto , weren't you telling everyone you'd win Gold at the Nationals last year with your country champs?
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