Because if your ever going to be able to play, you have to learn how to man up and take a player one-on-one.

Zone is good cause it works as a tactic but if you are going to be able to play and be successful you have to learn how to play proper defence.

so U12 & U14 (that's 4 years)isn't long enough to learn some 1 on 1 D??

RE: (#82536)

"a lot easier to teach man d .. no team work required. "

are you lost, have u ever heard of splitline help, hedge/recover etc. youve been watching too many nba dunk mix's

Most people don't want to learn how to play proper man-to-man defence, simply because they see it as too much hard work. They prefer to just gamble in the passing lanes and reach in for steals, and consider this to be good defence, or at least enough to get by so they can get another chance at scoring. Sorry, but you're not gonna stop anyone like that.

Unfortunately, it does seem like zone defences by junior teams are used to hide the weak individual defenders away.

Stop being soft and learn to "D up" properly, and then the zone won't seem like such a cop-out

When you consider a good zone has man principles I don't see the issue. A good man defence looks like a zone and a good zone defence looks like man!

anon #82682

If Sturt are not the bench mark then who is?

Last year we had the best results in the entire country at National Championships.

12 Girls 1st at Classics
14 Girls 2nd at Nationals
18 Girls 2nd at Nationals
14 Boys 1st at Nationals

If you can find another club that contested 4 Championship Finals and won 2 then please backup your argument. Otherwise you are just another hater that cannot see the forrest for the tree's,

Or you could look at the numbers at Overall State Champs over the past 8 years. 1999, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006

And as for all those WNBL and NBL players that have moved to Sturt. Aren't you forgetting

Brett Maher
Paul Bauer
Jason Williams
Oscar Forman
Jacob Homes
Brad Hill
Leigh Carlson
Jarrod Wilson
Monique Bowley
Laura Summeton
Bridgit Bowley
Hannan Bowley
Angela Marino
Emma Langford
Tammy Hoare
Caroline Nixon

Who were all Sturt juniors.

So common, back up your comment.

Zone us all you want, but when your kids are not making it in the future you will need to look at yourself, rather than blame Sturt

Why is it that 90 % of threads turn into a cock-measuring contest between a club (in this case sturt) and a bunch of anonymous posters as to who is better.

If you want to answer the question, then answer it.

If you want a cock-measuring contenst, then become a porn star.

Have a nice day.

82758,

Tammy Hoare - Centrals junior up to Under 12's I think, North in Under 14's, Sturt Under 16's and above, AIS in Under 18's, Sydney Flames WNBL

Angela Marino - Whyalla, and Sturt from bottom age Under 14's, also SA Country, NZ and Canberra Capitals WNBL

Leigh Carlson- Country, and Eastern Hills and Sturt from Under 10's upwards, AIS in Under 20's, West Sydney, Richmond FC AFL rookie list, Coburg VFA.

You're right, nothing like a good story! Any other info needed?

PS we don't start these pissing contests, but we end them by quoting the facts!

PPS My views on zone are in thread #3297. Look it up if you need.

82762

I do not always comment in a politically correct manner. Just asking a question, as i opened the thread expecting someones comments about a zone and by the 9th post there it was "my club is better than your club".

I have no problem with you doing that, just start a thread "look at my nuts" and be done with it, you can do all the bashing there.

I am not stopping or even trying to stop these comments, just would have liked the thread to contain a little more about the topic at hand (yes it has been done before as SB mentioned, but always an interesting debate). Go back to naming your sturt heros or trying to cut them down now, whichever side you are on.

ITA

Im not a sturt man, but I think there is a bit of sturt bashing going on here.

They do quote the facts - they do not teach their kids to play zone and their kids do struggle playing against it - sometimes.

They do teach their kids how to play proper D - that is why they are so good as a junior club.

Good D will always beat good O

I'd be more than happy for SB and the Vader to teach my kid the correct way but he likes playing with his mates.

It is obvious to an outsider with any nouse that the results they get are a by-product of the program they have in place.

We should not be canning them but trying to copy them and implement what they do - for the good of all

HillBilly,

That was my point, there is a lot of bashing when there was no need. It is not always sturt bashing (just is in this thread, and often is). The thread was about zone defense, and got turned into a "look at me" thread.

Read my post again, I was not bashing sturt nor defending sturt. I was "bashing the bashers" from both sides so to speak.