my 2 cents worth
Years ago

36ers sign Wheeler ... pay far too much!

They have signed and paid Wheeler six figures* for next season. Yes six figures*, this is $20k more then Jacobs best offer, $30k better then Oscars best offer and only a bit under what they we prepared to pay Dusty.

This is for a 35 year old that sat out a year due to injury, and even his last year on court wasn't flash.

The 36ers are called that name as it is the average age of the team.

Not Happy Jan!

(Mod: * This was originally a little bit more specific than I'd like so I've changed it to "six figures". This is more in line with the looser terms in which player salaries have been historically discussed on the forum. Obviously the original poster stands by any repercussions should anyone take issue with this post. Obviously BSA will not (or should not) publically deny or confirm salary specifics. I've also changed the topic title so it's a little more specific; it still conveys the incredulity, but at least gives a hint at what's inside.)

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my 2 cents worth  
Years ago

Just to add to that.

The Dragons offered him $55k. So $60k probably would of got him.

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panther lover  
Years ago

can u confirm this or are u just meesin with us?

please i would like to know as soon as possible. Can Issac or anyone else verify this claim?

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52-Cans  
Years ago

Are we the Adelaide Grandpas or the 36ers?

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Joe M  
Years ago

If that is the case then the 36ers are fornicating with us supporters

Any chance you can provide a link to this claim? Or is it just hearsay

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Isaac  
Years ago

How can I verify it? I can say that I'd probably think it's true, but I can't come out with a photocopy of the contract!

Why I think it's true: I could probably guess who made the post and I'd trust their info, the Sixers might be having to up their offers because the pool of free agents is dwindling, and they could also be forced to do the same to offset any concerns potential players would have regarding the associations position. That doesn't point towards the club picking up bargains, that's for sure.

I would suggest that the figures mentioned would be around the mark for three players mentioned at least, but I have no knowledge of Wheeler's negotiations at all.

Regarding the price discrepancy, the hints at the Dragons' lineup that I saw had Wheeler as a backup, whereas Smyth may have a more significant role planned. Perhaps even rather than starting ahead of Coops, the two will split minutes more evenly? Who knows.

Personally, I could see someone putting value in Wheeler and I think he could be good for $65k, but I do think that it's a big gamble at that higher price.

Might be interesting to see Boti's verdict on this.

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skip  
Years ago

If this is true I am very disapointed. I wouldnt pay him a 1 figure number to play for us.

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Joe M  
Years ago

"What's wrong with the Sixers"

Tomorrow in the Advertiser


Article by boti for all interested.

Well if that's the case it's not very good negotiating skills by the club but it's best to leave judgement until we know who is signed and who is not rather than jumping up and down until the all the story is told.

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Joe M  
Years ago

Seven News reported that Copeland and Wheeler have signed, at least it's news and player signings.

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Skyhook  
Years ago

I'm not liking the direction the club is taking with this . Be prepared for a "let's make do" kind of season .

Concerned.

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skip  
Years ago

I dont wanna hear about signings for the legends charity game!

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Mutley  
Years ago

Granted it would have been nice to get both these guys five years ago, but it depends how you look at it. Wheeler is at the very least a massive improvement on Rees. Copeland may provide the bench scoring spark that departed with Oscar. If they (I'm still referring to the Sixers as "they" rather than "us" at this point) can get Ballinger for Rychart and Pero for Holmes then we won't have done too badly, considering the financial constraints.

A lineup of:

Maher
Farley
Ballinger
Pero
Wheeler

Cooper
Nash
Hill
Copeland
Hambour/Gower/Gerlach

I don't think this would be that bad. But that, as I said, is based upon them getting Ballinger and Pero (or two other comparable players).

The next two signings will be the key.

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oh oh  
Years ago

I can't see them affording Ballinger and Pero if they are forking out a 6 figure amount for Wheeler.

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Mutley  
Years ago

It depends upon how much they save going from Dusty to Ballinger. At this point I am assuming that we haven't overpaid for Nash and Copeland.

David Cooper should play for half of last year's money too, in lieu of the f*ck all he did in the second half of last season.

What does a graphic design job pay, as I seem to remember reading that the Dragons offer to Wheeler was $60K ish PLUS potentially a graphic design job. If we couldn't do the second half of that then it would explain the greater $$$.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Well I can take solace in that none of my hard earned season ticket money will be going to pay for this latest signing's "pension".

I would rather watch a team of up and coming players supplemented by some quality players such as Maher, Farley etc. No more money from me if this is how the team is going to be "reinvented"

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tony blair  
Years ago

graphic design start around $45K and esculate up, depending on workplace at least that is what the graphic designers i know are paid.

why sign pero who plays a running game when the grandpas with their zimmer frames won't be able to keep up with him.

perhaps Pud can make a comeback or maybe Al Green as back up guard and limit Hills minutes even more.

you really got to feel for Hill now he must be wondering what old folks side he has signed up with.

Players of his fathers age rather than his own.

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EC  
Years ago

Has everyone got the facts right. I wonder if the six figure sum is for 2 years. After all, we've recently learned that the club is offering 2 year contracts. If we are paying a six figure sum to Wheeler for one season only, in view of what we have lost, I am disgusted. I will probably still buy a season ticket this year because its the only team we have in the NBL but I'll be disappointed and only go to the games half hearted. It will be intersting to see what sort of a response they will get to season tickets this year.

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Jasmine  
Years ago

tony blair...you have to wonder when it's Hill's turn to jump ship. Why not? He's young enough to toss to the gutter. I'm guessing his contract is up at the end of the next season as well.

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joshuapending  
Years ago

this is all just sad, sure get a vet backup/starter but dont spend lots on him while as mentioned the offer is more then what they had oscar and jacob look at. They may have stilled moved but that bit more may have made them stay and they are younger guys who will give you more service. Also keeps them here for 1 more year and hopefully that will be enough time to see if the wheel on the $$$ side of BASA is turning in a positive direction.

Its just sad that as such a proud and great club in a time of need the fans are really having a hard time seeing any real positive light.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why is it that everyone seems to be taking my '2 cents worths' comments as completely factual?

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Isaac  
Years ago

You know, the club could probably actually do with some design skills in the office - I wonder if they've made an arrangement in that direction?

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Adelaide Dude  
Years ago

If it's 100K+ it seems like desperation. Having said that I think Wheeler may be able to offer something. Is farley signed, I don't think he is?
Copeland has been a good player but how much does he have left in the tank, surely we saw his best years back. I understand we have financial concerns and thankfully they are finally being addressed but without a good team, I can't see any positive cashflow.

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Adelaide Dude  
Years ago

If it's 100K+ it seems like desperation. Having said that I think Wheeler may be able to offer something. Is farley signed, I don't think he is?
Copeland has been a good player but how much does he have left in the tank, surely we saw his best years back. I understand we have financial concerns and thankfully they are finally being addressed but without a good team, I can't see any positive cashflow.

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gamez  
Years ago

So sinical. Wheeler will be a better addition than Rees his last few years so that's got to be an improvement. Copeland, is an x factor. He might flourish in Phil's system. Hell, he's played the same offence for 99% of his career, and might even be able to bring some new options to the table. And there is no way in knowing what the contract is worth so don't speculate. It makes you all look incredibly stupid.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

gamez we can be cynical

rees was not paid anywhere near six figures

huge difference

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Thomo  
Years ago

adelaide dude farley last year signed 2+1 deal so hes signed

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gamez  
Years ago

You have no idea what he's getting paid. Who says that what "2 ecnts" says is gospel? You are all quick to fire up at what could simply be someone who has no idea about basketball. Where is your proof?

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Joe M  
Years ago

Games,

Isaac virtually verified that he (my 2 cents worth) was on the money and that is good enough for me, if anyone from outside the organization know what's going on at the Sixer it would be Isaac. .

Judge a player on what they do on the court, don't worry about how much money they are allegedly getting paid.

Wheeler and cooper will be competitive in the paint, an import 4 man with Nash and Copeland at the 3 sport will be ok allowing the scoring to come from Farley, Maher and Hill.

C: Wheeler / Cooper
PF: Import? (Assuming we get one) /
SF Copland / Nash
SG: Farley /
PG: Maher / Hill

That's a steady rotation of 8 guys and much to some chagrin potentially could be damaging. We need to recruit an import or a solid Australian PF (both if possible) but I can see that line up being competitive.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Don't put me on the spot again please! I said that I think it's probably accurate but I can't verify it. I wouldn't say "if anyone from outside the organization know what's going on at the Sixer it would be Isaac" either - maybe it's just that I put my name down when I post.

Now, the focus as you've said shouldn't be so much on that figure (if he delivers, it's irrelevant), but on what he can do for the team.

If Wheeler can replace Holmes' 13 and 8 (feasible) and probably at a higher percentage from the field, then I think that's an OK move. Again, as you said, pick up a decent import and we're competitive.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joe M - ever thought that maybe 'my 2 cents worth' is just trying to stir the pot? and due to some people guessing as to who he might be that his posts get taken more seriously than those from one of the many anoymous posters.

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Joe M  
Years ago

Please go and read post # 76130 that's why I gave it some credibility nothing more, nothing less.

If it not true then that is good news, but if it happens to be on the money please judge the players (wheeler and Copeland) on performance, not on how much they are getting paid

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skip  
Years ago

Just speaking to a source of mine. 'My 2 cents worth' seems to be fairly close to the money.

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hobbit  
Years ago

Unless your source is the CEO, probably best you forget about it.

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skip  
Years ago

I have a good source, dont you worry. :-)

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thedoctor  
Years ago

Can anyone picture Wheeler in that Dave Chappel skit where the govt pays black people reperations compensation, except the govt is the Sixers and Wheeler is the ghetto guy who can't believe he has just become the world's richest man?

Wheeler with sunnies on smoking a cigar, holding a framed copy of his contract with an ice pack on his ankle screaming "I'm rich biaaaaatch!"

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I feel for you 36ers fans. Lanard was "past it" several years back at the Tigers, let alone when in Brisbane. He has been given about 3 seasons to get back on track, but he is way past it... and now even older. He was stinking it up his last 2 years at Tigers in an offence and with a coach that was giving him every chance (while D-Mac sat on the bench, yet performing in limited minutes). Lanard was a champion, but prepare for more turnovers and fumbles than 3's or dunks.

People were joking about the age of the Tigers about 6 years back, and now you go and sign him!!! Maybe you will get Bradtke back once he hits 45.

The only crazier thing (is Isiah Thomas running your club?) than signing Lanard is that they use your membership and club $$ to sign Brett Wheeler! Why not use theat money (especially if it is six-figure) to sign a semi-decent import? You don't even know how Wheeler will return from his year out, and I would want him to play better than EVER (unlikely) for that (or any) money, and given the guys you have lost. Surely HE can't be getting six-figures for one year. One Rychart = worth TWO Wheelers.

Anyway, feel sorry for you, don't know what's going on, thought Smyth would have been smarter/more influence.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Brett Wheeler's stats this weekend for Sandringham in "Big V" league:

1 assist, 12 rebounds and 11 points in 44 minutes. Wow, look out NBL!

Marcus Timmons had 18 pts and 15 rebs in 38 mins in same game, while import Lester Strong had 28 and 14 in 41 minutes.

And 36ers signed Wheeler?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Then Lester Strong followed that up Sunday with 48 pts and 20 rebounds. Mike Spears had 47 points and 18 rebounds Saturday night. You would be better giving money to these guys, not Wheeler.

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