what committee, what decision needed to be made?

What bullying? And what's the deal with the second one? i thought two were coming oveR?

I dont understand what the problem is of some of these clubs. It's evident some clubs are so self absorbed and would rather see a club struggle than let them even up the competition. Fair enough if a club was signing imports and these imports would have an instrumental influence on the success of their team and thus by signing 2 imports would give a team a clear unfair advantage in the overall competition. Granted the stats of the Canadian currently playing for South are quite good, it is however certainly NOT dramatically any better than your Screens, Randfords, Bowleys etc and because there was the issue with South signing two imports and they therefore couldnt play one, you would assume they would play their better player, so having said that the Canadian that is currently NOT playing, you would assume shes not going to have a dramatic influence on South's games, be any better than the top performers in the league or give South an unfair advantage compared to the rest of the teams in the league. But like I said, most clubs in this competition would rather see an opposing club sit down the bottom end of the ladder rather than see the overall competition even up - a classic example of this is leaving Centrals struggling without a win for 5 years rather than BASA or individual clubs doing something about it, like nominating a Nataional League player (or 2) to go to Centrals.
So I propose these clubs think about their decision and how it affects the quality of the competition overall, are you really that threatened by potentially even and fair games or would you prefer your wins to come via a 'walk in the park?'
My post isnt just in relation to Souths import 'woes' but in general. Perhaps 'distributing' National League players to each club fairly, to see this competition even up, giving clubs more competitive games as opposed to blow outs, give the spectators something to get excited over, use the good quality of our teams to market the sport and give basketball S.A a better name and even make it more inviting for interstate players to come and play here with the knowledge they'll be participating in tough, good quality games. I'm not saying even up the clubs so each team is identical strength wise, thats impossible. Some teams will be deeper and stronger benches, stronger non-national league starters, better coaches, etc etc but at least its an attempt to even up the league more so than what it is now.

Actually South might be breaking immigration laws, as well as competition laws.

Everybody gets to play under the same rules. Why should some clubs get the chance to play outside of the rules, when others must folloew the rules.

So, by your thinking, easiest way to win a comp is to be really bad for a couple of years. Then be allowed to import extra players because you are bad.

Some clubs are not even allowed to play all of their own juniors.

Whatever happened to development of club players. If South hadn't been managed so badly they wouldn't be in their current position.

What it really boils down to is one club(coach)didnt really know the by-laws and all the others have managed to work within them, so why have a sook cause you got it wrong, and go crying to the umpire to reverse the rule to your favour under the guise of evening up the comp.
Get off your arse and work within the rules."Build it and they will come" to quote a famous quote
I am all for the clubs not to give them the exemptions, because the bylaw was there all along.

Probably becasue if they allowed clubs to import as many players as they wanted. Most clubs would not have any local talent.

Looking at the English Soccor Premier League and Spanish National Basketball League, both of these leagues have massive number of players from outside of their local players. England has not won the Soccor World cup in years even though their league is top 3. And the Spanish National Basketball team hasn't won the European Championships for years even though they have the best comp outside of the NBA.

I know that they are very different types of compeititons. But the principle of allowing for local talent to play is the same.

Didnt we do this in the eighties with lots of pain to the pockets of all clubs.
So why would we regress

Re: Anon #75755

No, I never said a club should be really bad for a few years then be allowed to import players because they're bad. In fact, I thought I was saying the opposite; that distributing League players or allowing a club to fill a team that will be competitive with the rest of the teams will then avoid the 'Centrals scenario' (nothing personal to Centrals - its just a good example of a team left to struggle) where a team is bad for years on end and everyone turns a blind eye and a deaf ear on their problems, because perhaps the mentality is 'one less team to worry about playing this year' or 'we can pencil in a win there'. Like I said, why not fill teams that are competitive with one another, give basketball S.A a better name and make it more appealing for people to watch and more inviting for interstate players to come and play in, then only increasing the level of quality. It should be about marketting the sport, especially with the situation we in South Australian basketball find our selves currently in.

Again, I stated that if a club was importing players that would see that club have an unfair advantage over the rest of the competition, surely it would be different. I'm just saying is this move really that detrimental to basketall in S.A? Is it going to be a decision the clubs voting for it will long to regret? Is it going to be bad marketting for S.A basketball? Or is it just going to even up the competition? Have some compassion for the girl who has come from overseas to play basketball in your state and has been sitting on the sidelines ever since, and have some vision that it will benifit the competition. I can appreciate the other side of the argument, I can appreciate some of you are hell bent rule enforcers and are happy to punish those who have unintentionally 'broken' them.
However, from my understanding South Australia's by-laws are different to those of EVERYWHERE else with this import rule, perhaps with S.A basketball so far behind the times its no wonder we are in the prediciment that we are currently in.

The clubs that struggle are the one's who are mismanaged. If you give them preferential treatment then they mismanage worse in an attepmt to win a ABA premiership.

Why not have them get their administration and junior development in check first. Otherwise they will be back into the same boat 3 years down the track with spiralling debts.

The salary cap rule was brought in a few seasons back to curb the over-spending of some clubs on their ABA program. In light of BASA's current financial situation it was a prudent move.

The restricted player rule was bought in by Basketball Australia to prevent teams loading up on import and WNBL talent at the expense of their own player development. Once again, a good move but doesn't cater for clubs who develop lots of WNBL talent from their juniors (discussion for another time!).

The immigration department specifies that clubs must pay imports a minimum living wage and that they must not get any income from any other source. This applies to many industries not just sport and is designed to protect Australian jobs. Again, not too many arguments with this one!

It just happens that the stipulated living wage is a large proportion of the BASA salary cap, thus making it difficult for imports to play in the Central ABL.

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the only one import rule has been in for decades.

Woodville when they played SEABL were allowed two imports but when they played state bank league, and that is what our ABA is based on, they could only have one.

Therefore they had Tryone Lee play for them as an import and then 'leased' Kelvin Henderson from West later Murray Bridge so he could play SEABL. And that was back in the late 80s early 90s

Glenn,

How does somebody inforcing the rules on a club have anything to do with an individual. ie "not having her best interest in mind". Rather they are holding you accountable for your error.

All clubs want to put their best team on the floor. Some do it by developing juniors, others do it by recruiting. Considering some clubs are not allowed to play all of their own juniors, why should your team be allowed to play 2 imports?

Who paid for their air-fares over?....

Wasn't the vote today?? If so how did it go??