Do you blame him? If your place of employment were strongly rumoured to be going into liquidation or bankrupts you would also look for a new place of employment.

Bad news for the Sixers but obviously a great opportunity for Oscar Forman to spread his wings and have some long-term employment future

Good for Oscar! If NZ was offering more money and a much longer deal then why should he stay in Adelaide?

Great work again from the Sixers. Forman should have been locked up by the middle of last season, and now where are we? He's gone, Holmes is halfway out the door.

Part of the reason that Adelaide didn't put up the huge fight for Dusty is that they had Oscar and Jacob. So what happens if we end up with none of them? Not only will they be more expensive to replace but we'll soon start to run into the points cap as well. Holmes (a 10 anywhere else as a Boomer) is a 5 while playing for Adelaide. Oscar (an 8 or 9 as a part-time Boomer - Isaac, would this be right?) was a 5 here. Now we have to potentially replace both of these guys for more money, and more cap points.

Another great effort from the Sixers!

A shame. Hopefully he can return one day, but all the best to him.

Hmm interesting indeed - If its true then good luck to him - there must have been some serious coin thrown his way.

I could understand a move to Sydney or the Dragons to experience a new coach etc etc but to go to the Breakers seems bizarre. Sure the Sixers are rather shaky at present but NZ couldnt be classed as a great team for stability!! Their coaching staff seem to be on a merry go round while the Sixers have Smyth who is supposedly the one every player wants to play for? Oh well will be interesting to hear if there were any other reasons behind the move than the standard 'future stability'

Oh well - Good luck lets hope he can take his game to teh next level! (and have a stinker when he comes home lol)

Channel 7 reported that it was double the Sixers offer. If he was offered approximal half the New Zealand offer, unless Jacob is extremely loyal he will go as well.

That's it and it gone to fucking far, this is the straw that broke the camels back and I am not going to renew my membership. Next summer I off the A league and will save a few hundred dollars for a season ticket.

If you are from the Adelaide 36ers organization and you are reading this I bet I am not going to be the only one who doesn't renew his or her season ticket, FFS let the fans know what is going on and if you have plan or strategy on recruiting player a few players, let us know.

Good luck to Brett, Brad, Willy and Coops as your not going to have much help around you, maybe Phil and Steve will come out of retirement and play.

Joe M, you are right. At this point it's looking like Hambour and Gower in the starting lineup with Nathan Hawkes first guy off the bench.

Joe M, I didn't know whether to admire or pity your apparent blind optimisim in the sixers, but everyone has their limitations.

Mine was two years ago (combined with other restaints).

I would never stop going if they were legitimately a bad side or losing because they had a side who had player not really up to the standard, but it's like the club isn't even trying any more and have given up.

Money and points are all well and good but what is the likelihood of them offering anything suitable to someone else if they were not willing to increase there offer to keep Oscar Forman. I imagine Oscar may have stayed if the offer was anything close to what he is going to receive in NZ so I cannot see any point in trying to predict a side for next season.

The money they are willing to spend on a side may not even be close to the cap, cost cutting in all areas.

Very disappointing to lose Oscar who has gotten better with the passing of every year.

Good luck to him in accepting what sounds like a great deal in New Zealand.

Hopefully he will get decent court time there and not be anchored to the bench behind Olsson, Melzer, Pepper and Wethers (if rumour is true).

Pretty crucial we sign Jacob now as losing Forman hurts our flexibility for next season as he was a 5 point player.

Having said that, I don't think we can go around matching lucrative offers if the club does not view that the player warrants that sort of contract.

IE paying say Holmes, Maher or Cattalini-type money does not necessarily represent good value.

Pero Vasilevic would be an option as a centre....

Forman stinks anyways, it is a good thing he is going, now if only Phil would leave as well.

Jesus christ, this team is going down the shitter. nothing more to say!

its a real shame. I think holmes will go but there is another possible problem, That is that they now really panic and Over pay for holmes. My only saving grace is that i would rather this team bottom out for a few years and survive then maybe fold quickly. Why the product might not be as good to fans, i would rather be alive and have the chance to rework the $$$ side of the club then go for bust and fold.

Real sad day, dont think anyone really thought we would loose him.

So are we all saying that if NZ offered oscar say 180k the Sixers should have matched it? As it stands we have no idea how much he was offered by either organisation (and while it might be nice to know its none of our business)

When it comes down to it Oscar is a tall three point shooting 6 man. Sure we all know he has potential but at this time he doesnt give us a big inside presence which is what we need.

As we already have Brett & Willie signed we cant afford to be paying the earth for a 6 man. We still have to get 3 more starters signed! If Brett, Willie, Coop, Hill & Nash are tieing up say 470k and we throw 100k at Oscar it leaves us with 3 starters (or 2 if you start Oscar) and 1 (2) bench players to split about 250k which isnt going to get us much

While it would be great to have kept him we just havnt got the $ to pay him as much as other clubs obviously do

Bloody heck (apparently bloody's OK now, so I'm going to use the word .... a lot).

Where is bloody Isaac Forman? He's gone awfully quiet over this. Bloody Oscar. Will Felix join him in New Zealand? Will Hoops SA now become Hoops NZ?

Sorry folks. The 36ers are in big strife. I'm with Boti.

i'm sure isaac is not on here cos he knows everyone will be asking him questions and expecting answers. as for the club like the other poster i will renew my membership but the club atleast from the outside looks to have steped on quicksand.

I'll renew my membership. Should get a front row seat.

I dont know why 6ers dont look outside of the NBL... to the ABA, some of the talented players that have been identified as talents but are yet to go pro... who was that big aussie guy, he's got african heritage, looks like shaq? played in under 21 nationals with newley........ y not sign him? nbl really needs to look into other aussie leagues and college

good on Oscar, I for one thought both he and Jacob need to move to improve their game.

I'd be very surprised if Jacob stays.

Oscar will make that next step now, no longer stuck in little old Adelaide. The Breakers is the perfect oppourtunity for him to tear it up.Good luck to him. Adelaide where never going to retain him, but i agree it would be nice to know of any players they are actively seeking.

The Sixers recent offers to Oscar have been, in my opinion, not terrible and on a year-by-year basis, their offer was certainly not half of that offered by New Zealand. Had Adelaide put their offer to Oscar during the season (I believe his agent approached the club to do this, but not 100%) I think he may well have signed it. As Brett Maher implied on Talking Hoops last night, if you don't want to lose a player, you don't let them come out of contract (Maher said that he'd never come out of contract himself).

It is not about the money - Oscar has turned down offers to play NZ NBL in the off-season to play for lesser-paying Sturt. I don't believe that the financial situation of BSA/Sixers influenced his decision strongly either - in hours of talking about his decision he didn't raise it.

Lemanis and Dorge have a very good reputation at developing players and Oscar is someone that needs to be pushed. I hope it's a very positive move for him in that respect.

So, while there's a bit of an apparent pall hanging over the Sixers after Rychart leaving and Ingles picking the Dragons, and I think it could still be a challenge to recruit from here, it's not the end. Maybe they slipped up in letting his contract finish, but when another team has bigger plans for a player, or offers a different approach, you can't always match that.

It's time for Dixy to make his much awaited debut. One door shuts another one opens. Look on the bright side everyone.

I'm currently negotiating with the sixers management. Money is not a big factor but we need to agree that he'll be fed the ball in the post so he can display his awesome range of up and under moves and various counters.

Matt Sutton is a great post passer and will fill the void as a back up guard nicely. He doesn't need any money, a pair of shoes and sixers polo shirt will do. He plays for the love of the game so I'm hopeful that I'll be able to come to terms with the sixers management.

(Mod: Funny, but I could also see it working out...)

There is only one option as far as I can see: BRING BACK BLAKEMORE!

I'm disappointed that Oscar has left us because he was one of my favourite players at the 36ers. However its apparent that NZ could offer Oscar two things that Adelaide couldnt, that being financial stability/security and the chance to join a program that will undoubtedly improve him as a player. I attempted to put myself in his position, ie young talented basketballer (something i aint)and I could immediatly see how the pros of going there outweighed the cons.

Where this leaves the 36ers i'm not too sure, I dont expect holmes to be here much longer (i always thought he'd be gone before oscar)but i'm thinking the roster will be looking fairly thin past the starting 5 and nash. Still its pretty hard to predict what happens next season when we dont even know what the rosters looking like. I'm just glad that we still have Smyth as our coach.

Good luck to Oscar next season as a breaker and I hope he has a break out season... except when he plays us of course.

Dorge is at the Breakers, yes, but you will be horrified to hear that they're planning on rotating him between SG and SF. You might also want to avoid watching him for Sturt this season - he spends a lot of time about 2-3 metres out the top of the key harbouring PG aspirations.

I can just imagine how the contract negotiations went:

NZ: Oscar we are looking at putting the team back together. What is your asking price?

O: $xxx,xxx and I want a car. Oh, and a car for my brother. He drives a piece of crap.

NZ: What sort of car?

O: Red Ferraris would be nice...

It's great that Oscar is getting this opportunity and I wish him all the best. It would be stupid to knock back opportunities that are going to develop you further as a player and offer better financial stability. The thing that really annoys me is that Adelaide has not been in the situation to match these offers being made elsewhere. Why did Adelaide get itself into such a shit state? What was going on all that time that the BASA board was mismanaging the organisation? Where were the auditors throughout that time? My grduge is with what is happening to Adelaide, not the players who choose to leave.

OK, Mr Forman. Here's your car. Thank you for not transferring to Hoops NZ.

..... and Mr Forman drives off into the sunset with his pet horse on the back seat .....

So Isaac, if its not about the money, not really about teh financial situation at BSA and they are planning on 'developing' Oscar as a SG/SF (I thought he was developing very nicely in that role at the Sixers already) then what was were Oscar's main motivations for the move?

Statman:

Lemanis and Dorge have a very good reputation at developing players and Oscar is someone that needs to be pushed.

Forman has always been an outstanding club man. Two years ago he took an unheralded major pay cut to help Adelaide fit Dusty Rychart in under the salary cap.

Good fortune to you Oscar, you can only become a better player - good move.

I hope he succeeds, just not against us!

Isacc said it as it is.
Good luck Oscar.
WE will pay a lot more to get you back in three years.

Has now been posted on the NBL site

Forman is currently in discussions with the Breakers who are believed to be looking for a off-guard, small forward player.

Forman's deal is also believed to focus strongly on his development as a player with coaching staff expected to give the 'Big O' greater individual attention.

"Forman has always been an outstanding club man. Two years ago he took an unheralded major pay cut to help Adelaide fit Dusty Rychart in under the salary cap."

Yes, that is admirable and something I wasn't even aware of at all. He deserves whatever he gets from New Zealand and I hope Adelaide are in a position to offer him a good deal when his next contract is up.

Phil Smyth should be taking the pay cut!! 2nd Highest paid coach in Australia!!!

Expect Rob Rose to surface here in Adelaide!

Bring Back Jerry Dennard!

Jerry w00t

Isaac, I'm interested to know if you know whether Oscar ever regrets being talked out of going to the U.S college system?

I don't know that he was talked out of it - more that he was presented with a solid four-year offer from the Sixers.

I think he has regrets about not going but it's purely from a developmental aspect with regard to his playing. He's like me in that he needs a very strong external motivation (in his case, being pushed very hard by coaches; in my case, having deadlines).

Hoops,i saw Oscar and Isaac today, but shame that i don't know much about them before i check online.
hey Issac,it's me Echo:) i can see you here, i will try my best to see if i could get your webs, see lots of people know you guys, i think maybe easy if i post that i am interested on you,haha. i love kidding:)

regards
Echo

Isaac, has Oscar headed back to NZ yet?

Panther, when we left China, he went straight back to Auckland. (Echo is a girl from Beijing - runs a store at the Pearl Markets.)

Echo, I'll send Oscar your email address.

That's cool. I was in Auckland earlier this week and was going to see if he was around to catch up with. Down at Rotorua/Taupo for the weekend then heading further south for the week.