Quality use of the coach's challenge by Cairns ......

Good to see Gaze's hatred of Perth hasn't diminished.

Nice start by Cairns, hopefully it stays close.

Good to see Gaze's hatred of Perth hasn't diminished.

Yeah Wildcats stinking up the place

Can taipans hang on, probably not but at least it's game on.

Perth has home court but Cairns have home weather. Liking their work so far.

Waardenburg a sneaky chance at a triple double at this pace

What kind of salary would Withers be on as a replacement import?

What a luxury for Perth. Solid role player and better than some full time imports in the league.

Undermanned?
Fatigued?
Dead last on the standings?
Don't worry, you can still put up triple digits in this building.

Oh my, 100 each. OT.

100-98 wildcats. 32 seconds left. Henshall takes a 3. Misses. Dumb play. O/T. Cairns playing well for a bum team. Wildcats..... well

Horrible call on Doolittle. That's play on or D foul

Bryce was some serious boneheaded plays down the stretch

Perth can't guard and can’t rebound. What an embarrassing loss.

Giving up 100+ to the wooden spooners.

I said it before. It does t go to O/T if Henshall doesnt go
the hero play with 32 seconds left. Up 100-98. A 2 point play probably kills the match. How you lose at home to the team coming last is unbelievable. NBL. Who knows? Every week it's a mystery.

Oh dear, Cairns, hold your nerve. Let Perth score 2s, double-team Cotton regardless of anything else, and milk the clock. Jeez

2OT.

Double OT. Wow 2 free throws missed by Cairns to win it.

Two free throws missed by Edwards for the game. Double OT. Cats will probably go onto win this but having a lot luck.

Insanity

You've got to feel for Forde.

This team is stupid, and I'm not referring to the Taipans.

Cats. Layups missed. Dunks missed.Gertimg killed on the boards. Good luck in the finals

Shocking call on Waardenburg to give BC the foul shots

Two disgusting calls in a row, that's no foul on Cotton and the tech on Waardenburg

Yep, ridiculous

It's pretty sad were getting so many favours yet are still behind to the wooden spooners.

we're*

Mammoth effort, Taipans.
Congrats

Embarrassing

YESSSSS!!!!!

Well done Cairns! This makes me feel a lot better about the Hawks loss on Thursday.

Great win from Taipans. Really deserved it. Some super dumb plays by Cats. Henshall blew the game going for glory at the end of regulation. Cost Cats the win

Cracking game in spite of some horrible decisions down the stretch by the refs. Congratulations to Cairns.
On the performance of all players of late Davis is the mvp. I think it also proves you still need to play D to be championships.

All done Cairns but they do this every year. Last 3 wins against top 3 team after you've played like shit all year. You really want to impress me?? Do it during the season when more than your contracts are on the line.

Game of the year, taipans so strong and tough, well done to them

SEM are in the top four now, PER slide down to fifth.

Please check on Jacket ASAP

Just an all round terrible display from the Cats. Abysmal shooting combined with barely there defense. Need Windler back urgently.

Good call Billy Bob. After his meltdown in last Sunday's Taipans vs Sixers thread Cairns have now beaten top of the ladder Hawks and Perth in Perth in 2OT!

Great to see especially against two teams that spend a lot more on their rosters too.

Huge win

Absolutely huge.

Did they just shatter Perth's season and save Forde's career?

And I can't believe Pinder just tried an AFL speccy and drew blood by elbowing Groves on the way down, no call

Half the time fouls result from actions applying the same amount of force as your grandma lowering her English breakfast teabag into her morning brew. (Exhibit A- the Waardenburg foul on Cotton's 3 a minute earlier). Then that goes uncalled

Not a truer word LV, the Cotton foul was disgraceful, Pinder certainly looked a lot worse and nothing.

Dude behind me in the crowd is one of those referee reviewers who sits there with a notepad asessing the officiating. Overheard someone ask him about the he seemingly late calls. They are a directive aimed at stopping the refs being too trigger happy and waiting till the play is finished to make a call. So the takeaway from that is they are pausing to give more thought to their decisions and still making bonehead decisions a lot of the time both ways.

Other than that great exciting game and respect to Cairns who are certainly not quitters despite peaking comically late.

What a shocker, not sure I have seen a gane where both teams were entitled at times to feel absolutely hard done by. They called the absurd, they missed the obvious, every time you felt it was advantage one team they came back with a head scratcher... take a hang, draw blood no foul.... beat the man and elevate with a normal shooting motion, offensive foul, shove a player out of court on a d board, no call leads to tied game. Etc... oh yeah the bc and 1.... not sure he hit him

Well done Cairns, massive effort.

Anyone else having 2022 ScoMo flashbacks?

And spot on PW - several Wildcats players have a very low basketball IQ. Specifically Pinder and Henshall but the legend that is BC had some headscratching moments. Doolittle also had an absolute stinker in the second half.

There he is Mr Anon, never speaks about the game, just the refs. Anon is ref hate to Jacket's league hate lol

The refs literally made themselves the center of attention. They over whistled and not well either. Killed Amy flow, stopped players making basketball plays or hustling for lose balls by trying to find fouls that weren't there. Then the most over the top Pinder hang they swallowed it. You are welcome to dislike my opinion, but tonight it is warranted, that was not an enjoyable spectacle, it was not good basketball and it was largely to do with the referees

The Wildcats played noticeably below their best basketball and it had very close to nothing to do with the refs.

That said, the Pinder no-call was an absolute howler. Didn't have a good angle on the Waardenburg call but it didn't look like there was anything in it.

Yeah of course cats looked well off. But that doesn't change the fact both teams found it impossible to adjust to what was and wasn't getting called, both teams were incredibly frustrated and both could feel hard done by. As a product, it was awful. Both ways. very experienced basketball minds would be confused as to what was and wasn't getting called, what the hell is and is not an offensive foul? Elevate for a normal shot, yep, push of with a forearm or do a delly and use your shoulder to push of no. Is there an out of bounds line? Can you get pushed out of bounds, take a hang, sure why not, hussel for a rebound or lose ball, we don't want that... honestly tell me that the game wouldn't have been better with a beginner ref to scared to call anything but the extremely obvious and just let them play. In fact no ref might have made for more enjoyable viewing.

Yeah Bryce shooting 12/37 (5/21 3PA @ 23%) had everything to do with the referees hahaha

I assume Anon you're continually referring to the Doolittle offensive foul where he clipped Groves, which also sparked debate between Gaze and Lowery

Yeah that was interesting

Dunkman how dear you suggest BC not worthy of winning mvp this year. I did this last year and got corrected that in years where bryce isn't playing well and not leading stats then kissing criteria reverts to how players influence games, not scoring or stats, which is why BC should still get mvp!

(I should add I'm a huge fan of his but he should be judged and reffed in the same way as others)

Interestingly Cotton's FC% is his best since his 1st year in NBL. Not last night though.

FG%*

That was a wind up too by the way... thought I'd mention that before the cats army of posters winds into action!

Great press conference by Forde, actually makes me eat my words on the criticism I've had of them this season.
Again, mark my words Cotton is a absolute champion and had a great season but over the whole season so far, Kendrick Davis has been better in every stat bar under one point a game less, they are fifth and sixth on the table, the season is not over yet so it could change but at this stage Davis is the MVP.

Well what a 48hrs for the Taipans . Not sure where the desire has been all season but they showing some heart in the last 10 days . Good to see the team enjoying the victory . we rarely beat Perth in Perth . At this rate we may well finish 9th . I agree that some of the calls were head scratchers and the tech on Sam at that stage of double OT was certainly uncalled for . Would have been a great flight home I reckon .

It's games like the last two games is why hard to take Perth seriously as a contender. They play no defence. The start of the second half overtime is why not paying attention to details will kill you in the playoffs. They got mixed up on switches and the taipans just had a field day. Gleeson teams would never let that happen

It's not the best statistical player award, it's the most valuable. Without Cotton they're near the bottom, without Davis, well it's the Sixers so god knows. And a lot of the times he's put those numbers up in garbage time and hasn't even been the best Adelaide player. It's Cotton and it's not even close for second place.

Totally disagree, Davis is instrumental in everything Sixers do, stats in garbage time, lol. Punters were saying Perth would be better without Cotton when he was injured and they were winning. Basketball is a game built on stats, they have to come into it. Considering also Cotton plays nearly all game are his stats in garbage time. Daylight, again lol, it's close and any neutral observer would agree, not like the biased commentary who only see points.

No, the ref's didn't make BC shoot a horrid %, reverting back to our no movement no working to get people open from earlier in the season did that. Just because the ref's were awful and I stated it ruined the game for me, doesn't mean they caused a bad Bc shooting night... some of you need to learn to compartmentalise, seriously. More than one thing can be awful and they don't always have a direct or significant impact.

Out of curiosity, how many players of the game Davis vs Cotton? Hard to be MVP when other teammates win in whilst while not looking would say Cotton would have have stranglehold on most games he's played in and won.

The refs ruin every game for you. Go take up spectator chess you fool

Davis is the mvp imo, yes you will probably be right because all media backs Cotton but as I stated previously it's not over yet and at this stage Davis is leading it for me.

Davis doesn't deserve to be MVP. If it were the old 3-2-1 scoring system after each game Cotton would smoke him but given that system doesn't exist anymore KD is a good chance to win it on the hype of the Sixers likely making the Top 6.

Should be Cotton and then daylight, IMO.

The problem with cotton when he is taking that many shots and missing , he becomes a liability as the coach will never sit him out. While he did have 8 rebounds, for a double overtime game he only had 3 assists. Shooting 5 of 21 from the 3 point line is also inexcusable, he should of found others to take the shot.

If Cotton decides not to return or is asking too much, Cats wouldn't be crazy to talk to Kendrik as I think his style of game gets other players more involved. They would have some money tied up in Cotton to make it attractive.

As I've stated previously, we are all fans, and allowed different opinions but if I’m picking it now on what we have seen all season and I’ve watched every game, plus I don’t support either cats or Sixers I’m giving it to Davis.

I'm not seeing hype on Davis, I’m see hype on Cotton by all commentators, led by Rucker.

How much of the hype from 'all commentators' is driven by their expert judgement versus the LK and NBL agenda, or trying to get him one last award before he leaves the NBL, or just being familiar with BC?

Hooley had both KD and Trez in his NBL First Team very early in the season, said they're virtually locks which gave away the agenda a bit for mine. It's being driven by the NBL.

Who were the other 3, Z? I'm guessing Cooks and Cotton, but who else?

Hurt been mentioned a lot times, Prather as well.

Sixers cruising at present, breakers coach Kop must pull what is left of his hair out. They are trying, but unlike taipans looking for season end, it's been a long season for them.

hoopie, I don't remember Hooley saying anyone else but it was a bit suspicious he was calling Trez and KD as certainities for the All-NBL 1st Team just 7-8 games into the season.

I'm sure part of it too is Hooley is from Adelaide, but has been living in Melb since his career ended early, so maybe a bit of former hometown bias. No one are locks for any end of season awards/teams that early in the season.

So you thought the refereeing was of a high standard and consistent in this game did you Sebastian? Such great analysis form you.

It didn't comment on the refs either way, that’s you pony. But they didn’t contribute to the style of play. I’m sure it’s their fault Cotton and Edward’s both missed game winning free throws!!

So is the fool the person with a substantiated opinion or the one that can't or doesn't read and takes a stupid dig that has already been answered?

You do not have a substantiated opinion. You are the same as Jacket. Jacket hangs shit on the "shit" league. You just hang shit on the "shit" refs (especially when Perth lose). Oh I can read, you are just in that bucket for me (the bucket everyone has) that whatever you post is discarded immediately. I'm glad school goes back this week.

School starts next week in WA.

Damn.

So you're argument is you disregard an opinion blindly because of who it is, irrespective of what is actually said. Then you imply you are of more advanced intellect... interesting. Even a broken clock is right twice a day champ. A ludicrous perspective and just non conducive to discussion. Clearly I have a Perth hat, we all have our biases. Yet, there was no ref blaming for the loss just frustration at horrid referees and a not enjoyable spectacle, wod have felt the same if Perth won. You accuse me of been a child, Yet you are the one dishing out childish insults seemingly because you dont want acknowledge that the ref frustration may have actually been warranted on this occasion. Real mature.

Anon, the problem is how would anyone know if ref frustration is warranted, when the sooking is in EVERY F***ING game thread. If it was an anomaly or on the odd thread it may elicit better responses.

I totally get where Sebastian is coming from. The incessant sooking and whinging from the same people on every damn thread just gets tiresome and makes people appear childish. Damn, I was sooking about refs when I was a teenager and grew the hell out of it. Just once I would love to read a game thread on here without the constant complaining from the usual suspects.

And that's without even starting on the actual art or reffing itself. It is an impossible, thankless task in any professional sport. Money and careers on the line so players will do anything they can to milk a call to help win. A Sobey head throwback, Cotton jump forward or an Ili/Delly arm bar when defending etc. Players are so adept at cheating now, who the hell would want to be a ref?

End rant.

So you're argument is you disregard an opinion blindly because of who it is, irrespective of what is actually said

There was no implication that I was more advanced. Just your bias makes you irrelevant.

FYI I'm a different Anon.

Anon, the refs have a directive to let the game flow. If they called every single thing, we would have 3 hour games shooting 80 FT. This isn't the NBL of old where Perth would get home cooking every week. Refs are flown around the country each game. Sure they get it wrong sometimes but games are reffed alot better for the benefit of the game, even comparing last season. You are the only one whinging every Perth loss about the refs. You do it for a response, just like Jacket who loves to fish.

This was one of the games of the season no matter how you look at it.

Quality use of the coach's challenge by Cairns ......

"Anon, the refs have a directive to let the game flow. If they called every single thing, we would have 3 hour games shooting 80 FT."

I don't agree with this. If a foul is a foul it should be called. Players need to adjust to the calls which they will do quickly and then the game will flow without endless free throws.

I'm with Mball - otherwise the players AND coaches AND fans get too frustrated by inconsistent calls from referees’ subjective opinions.

Goes both ways hey, how is someone going to grow, mature etc,choose your buzzword, if you don't engage on the level you would like discussion to take place? I think mball summed it up nicely. Also boys who cried wolf, the whole town ended up in the shit because they never listened right? Despite the false alarms they should have not ever been blindly dismissive, Story goes both ways as a lesson.