Sixers should get this one, Harrell vs Gillespie will be fun

NZ have certainly surprised, got be careful not respecting what they have done. If the Sixers are true top four team though, they should get this. Sixers by 12.

Good call word. Hopefully it doesn't get ugly because both seem a bit volatile

I'd like to see bolden take it personally and step up but can't see it

The Breakers never seem to contain Vasiljevic very well. But the key for them is slowing down Davis and keeping Harrell off the glass. Big test for Gillespie and Bolden who have both been making progress. Mennenga also has the strength to handle Harrell, but has been disappointing recently even though he played reasonably well in the NBA games.

Sixers by 12.

He's the first import big man I've seen in a while that hasn't been whistled out of the game. Maybe that's due to his reputation or maybe genuine defensive capability. Either way I'd like to see it more

He's got a very high basketball IQ and is very experienced. Someone the other day said he does everything with a purpose, which I think is right, whereas a lot of import bigs try a bit too hard, don’t think ahead, and get caught out in bad position. Speaking of which, how good would the Breakers be if you replaced Gillespie with Harrell!?

Always have a bad feeling when Adelaide play in NZ. Can just foresee NZ hitting lots of threes, the crowd getting involved, and Adelaide not having composure. Didn't realise NZ were down a few though, but would not be surprised if Adelaide get rolled still. I think would be an impressive win if they can get across the line.

I'm not surprised by how good he's been on defence but I am on offence. Even his short game has been effective

Very poor start by Sixers, PJC is the best player in the league. Martin looking a lot fitter for Sixers.

Breakers on fire in the first quarter. Sixers all over the shop and got jumped from the start.

Martin > Harrell

Gillespie is far from the worst import in the league, he's very useful. 33 to 19 nz. PJC keeps going like this it’s over. The look DJV face when PJC pinched the ball off his dribble was excellent. PJC was 20 meters up court before he realised.

This is a very good game, both point guards are top shelf. Game on now.

Back to the breakers, 52 to 39 after it got to four points.

Breakers are not moving on Gillespie, dudes playing great both ends.
NZ without 3 rotation players and looking the goods.
Coach Kop knows a thing or two.

I used to think Rucker was the most annoying commentator but Joel Peterson is now easily surpassing that tittle.

Gillespie setting a bunch of illegal picks that aren't being called.

Genuinely impossible to predict a game this season

Maybe Adelaide shouldn't travel early I'm pretty sure that they lost when they did it last time.

I'd rather my big man attempt to set a screen than what Adelaide's bigs call a screen. It tests the ref's all the time so why not do it.

36ers perimeter D has been awful this season.. way too many wide open looks.

Sixers of old back, you can't give away big starts to often and then expect to claw back and win. DJV having a mare. With everything PJC does his best attribute is being able to get his whole team into all the action.

Can anyone tell me who got the second technical foul for Adelaide because if it was on the bench isn't that put against the coach, & he was given one earlier. So I'm confused about the ruling on this??

1st on the coach

2nd on the bench (maybe because it'd be embarrassing to kick a coach out because they couldn't spot an illegal screen twice).

Lopez looking so much better these last few games

Bairstow & Anticevich very good pick ups for NZ.
Bolden playing his best basketball

I was almost certain Adelaide were going to get rolled in this game. I just haven't liked what I have seen in terms of composure and attention to detail away from home, and their defence is not good enough to stay in games when things are not going their way. When they do defend well, they'll give up an O board or a tip in or something else will result.

Again, was just a lazy and passive start to the game, and not showing energy or fight to change things. I think Harrell can be a bit lazy at the defensive end, and then is too quick to blame others. Sorry, but he shouldn't be left out of criticism either even though he's been great. My gut feel is Humphries should come off the bench soon and start Martin.

Full credit to NZ who have surprised everyone and are down rotation players. I had a feeling we were going down and was worried it'd get ugly like the Melbourne game.

Are Adelaide under Wells the Kyle Adnam of NBL teams? Clever offensively but the shittiest little defenders in the league.

Just to clarify the rule is.

A head coach shall be disqualified for the remainder of the game when:
• He is charged with 2 technical fouls ('C') as a result of his personal unsports-
manlike behaviour.
• He is charged with 3 technical fouls, either all of them ('B') or one of them ('C'),
as a result of the unsportsmanlike behaviour of other persons permitted to sit on
the team bench.

Since when has Marshall had hops like that lol

Adelaide...

Terrible D. Have managed to get away with it (just) in previous games.

Coach Wells doesn't know how to manage the big personalities in the team. Who's actually in control (on and off the court)?

Coach Wells needs to calm down. Tech'd tonight and had got away with a few previously.

Is anyone sure of their role?

Great dunk by Marshall.
But it was on a DP when you're down by a ton, calm the farm lol.

Breakers play the best team basketball, credit to Kop and their coaching staff, they don't throw up much garbage, they look to pass under pressure. PJC is a superb player and leader. Adelaide had a bad game, it happens, some of their players are, to me first instead of pass first. Defensively they were not good. Great Dunk at games end, pity his game doesn’t match it, certainly at the defensive end.

Love how Kop got his DP's a run and isn’t scared to play his whole bench. Bodes well for later in the season knowing guys can step up when their number is called

Only partly watched the game, and my only takeaway was that PJC wrested back MVP favoritism from Trez. Big balls victory.

Coach Wells needs to calm down. Tech'd tonight and had got away with a few previously.

Stats sum up the game a bit.

NZ 7 offensive rebounds to 36ers 21 defensive.
At the other end, 36ers 4 offensive to NZ 33 defensive.

Blocks NZ 8, 36ers 1

Interesting NZ 8/20 and 36ers 6/20 had the same number of 3 point shots but it seemed like NZ got a lot more in.

36ers bigs seemed to play a lot further from the basket in offence than the NZ players, hence not a lot of second chance baskets.

Hopefully still a settling in time with martin, who played ok but perhaps the 36ers have relied too much on running over teams after a slow start - will not work all the time.

Are Adelaide under Wells the Kyle Adnam of NBL teams? Clever offensively but the shittiest little defenders in the league.

I got called a troll for saying it but it's so obvious humphries and djv are not good for this team. Yes they can both have good patches but neither are conducive to winning regularly.

DJV spent most of the night throwing up shots and whinging about not getting calls... meanwhile he's playing iso with no ball rotation other than when he runs out of options.

Why can't he run a decent pick and roll with Humphries or Harrell?

Without KD that team would be toast

Standards? While Kelly owns this team, they will always be a joke

As many have commented pjc is just an extremely talented, unselfish and gutsy player. He knows when to exploit his defenders mismatch and when the overattention on him means it's time to bring others into it.

Lopez is obviously benefiting but also anticevic and bairstow contributing as a result.

As many have commented pjc is just an extremely talented, unselfish and gutsy player. He knows when to exploit his defenders mismatch and when the overattention on him means it's time to bring others into it.

Lopez is obviously benefiting but also anticevic and bairstow contributing as a result.

I did not expect that result. But the Breakers played some sensational basketball. Jonah didn't jack up early threes and is getting on the glass. Maybe Coach Kop does know a thing or too.

Lopez has MASSIVE upside. The kid is 17 and the way he shrugged off an overweight Martin for the basket and the foul was impressive.

Overall, it looked like the team was having fun. The tricky thing will be bringing Darling and King back into the fold. Lopez and Bairstow are playing really well. Bairstow is like having another point guard out there, maybe Mitch McCarron loses out?

I think McCarron loses some minutes but his voice is valuable with so many young guys.
I think NZ hit the import jackpot again with Mooney & Gillespie and PJC looks like he's really enjoying running this team.
Bolden didn’t just hang out on the perimeter and got on the glass and got to the foul line.

Watch Harrell closely on D. He is very reluctant to step outside the paint.

This leaves a lot of open looks for other teams when they get him into screening action or for bigs with range.

I suspect that is due to him chasing stats. Sure he gets blocks and boards because he is just sitting resting in the paint waiting for the cheapies. Probably why he was also still in last nights game in garbage time.

Adelaide just relies on high scoring to win games so will be very up and down unless they fix their defensive issues.

fstos: I also thought Harrell was stat padding and playing for himself, rather than the team, at times. The way the lane opened up for the Lopez dunk is very rare in the NBL.

I'll also reiterate that someone in the Breakers is reading hoops. Last round their overpaid players came to play and this round Gillespie showed he could be a lob threat.

What is Bairstow's ceiling? Has anyone followed his junior career closely to know how he compares to others in his cohort? He looks like he has very good fundamentals and reads the game well.

Why was Harrell on in garbage time? NZ cleared their bench with a couple of minutes to go and was still kicking the 36ers arse. Surely Griscti and Rigoni could get some minutes in garbage time and yet they put a DP on. Mind boggling.

Listening to Kop in the press conference makes you realise how smart a coach he is, humble and highly intelligent, great pick up by breakers.

"Brilliant summarisation, sir."

Thank you, although I should really have credited Dean Vickerman!

"Watch Harrell closely on D. He is very reluctant to step outside the paint."

Exactly. Good teams are exploiting Harell, Humphries and Martin on ball-screens. Wells hasn't yet come up with different defensive looks to make opposition teams go to something else.

Mystro wrote "I think NZ hit the import jackpot again with Mooney & Gillespie and PJC looks like he's ...".

You forgot Fall. Probably the only team that can have him with a given name, "Tacco". No Hungry Jacks in NZ so no conflict of corporate sponsors (very sorry, but no one else whom I can lay that sort thing on).

Kolzee, did anyone actually call you a troll though? Or, you do you mean some peoople disagreed with you and offered a counter view?

It was not that any of your points were not fair, it was more about what alternatives exist and the question as to if any NBL team would rejcect the opportunity to sign two locals long term.

You seem very hyper-focused on the flaws of DJ and offer only a simplistic view as to why they are both to blame within a bad performance. DJ was a starter on two consecutive championship winning teams, so it wasn't an issue for Sydney. If Adelaide did not want them, there are plenty clubs that would have.

Some guy peter did. Then an unnecessary comment about my mother. Clearly a dooshbag. Haven't heard from him since.

https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/52366-36ers-vs-jackjumpers/


For the record I'm not comparing that to your comments which were just differences in opinion.

Direct link: https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/52366-36ers-vs-jackjumpers/#p952098

I'm enjoying your posts, Kolzee. There's way too much echo chamber stuff on here when a team wins a couple of games in a row, which means "it's all good" and you dare not criticise them. Wins paper over cracks.

I didn't recall DJV being a starter but either way the big difference was that he wasn't the point of focus he is at sixers. If you take the big bucks you've got to take the responsibility with it. We expect it from imports for their pay check so locals should too

I'm still around Kolzee and thanks for calling me a douchebag.

I was simply calling out you have gone out of your way to bag DJ at every opportunity for a very long time to the extent it appeared you had a personal vendetta against him. Based on number of posts after that, many others also picked up on this and shared my view

I should add your historical posts are usually informed and measured, except when you mention DJ

OK I realise I've now made a dooshbag comment and to make it worse I can't even spell it right! So let's move on

I do want to point out though my sixers posts are mostly due to a) my frustration that DJV may not fulfill his very high potential and b) my frustration with clubs throwing big money at individual players and not having the patience and courage to make the proper changes needed and build an effective roster.

Thanks Perthworld - appreciate the comment but I do want to keep it in good spirit at the same time

So let's get back to the ball game... Monday night bball about to tip off!