Was at ludwigsburg in Germany for last two seasons, did ok but moved on by management re team D wasn't up to expectations. Germany D rules, so it might not mean that much. Went to Turkey at start this season, still list as coach so it might all be BS.

Not only did they sign a bunch of ex-Kings, they take yet another page from the Kings playbook re: coaches! :D

Another international coach

Josh King - SEM - American

Brian Goorjian - Sydney Kings - American/Australian
Scott Roth - Jack Jumpers - American
Justin Tatum - Illawarra - American
Mike Wells - 36ers - American
Dean Vickerman - Melbourne - Australian
Justin Schueller - Bullets - Australian
John Rillie - Perth - Australian
Adam Forde - Cairns - Australia

Petteri Koponen - NZ - Finnish


With suspicion that Marko Marinovic will be the new Head Coach of an expansion team. Heck the 6ers staff besides Lake are "imports"

I don't have anything against international coaches coming in, but are some of these hires really better than what is on offer on shore?
Is the league denying Australian coaches opportunities like giving Marinovic a AC job to then promote him later on and restricting the pathway for Aussie coaches?

Does Euroleague have a high % of American coaches?
The NBA doesn't have a high % of international coaches.

Surely there is a AC somewhere in the country who is really good and has been sitting doing their job on the bench for sometime waiting for a chance?
Or even a NBL1 coach who deserves a spot?

There are indeed some Australian coaches who might be worth a "chance"

It feels like international coaches are more likely to disappear for opportunities overseas - think Moar and Buford- and Australians only generally do so once NBL opportunities are exhausted or simply out of desire to try something else after a career here (Goorjian, Westover, Gleeson, Dennis etc)

Sucks that NBL teams continue to look beyond home grown coaches.

Would have liked to see Sam Mackinnon get a go.

The fact that Tatum's experience prior to this was High School, and he’s been a relegation, probably highlights how bad our coach development is here.
A high school team would be more professionally ran and train more frequently than a nbl1 team.

Revelation* bloody autocorrect

Lot good Australian coaches in Japan, at least 4/5 possibly more.

Given Josh King has coached a playoff team in the German league, which is rated by many as above the NBL, among other coaching experience, I think its fair to say hes a better candidate than Sam Mackinnon, who has limited coaching experience.

I think its trending a bit like the players, many of the best credentialled coaches in the NBL wont be Australians, in the same way that many of the best players are imports.

Im all for just getting the best players and coaches into the NBL that we can.

If you had crossover games between NBL and BBL teams you'd get a mix of results, one isn't clearly above the other. France, Australia, Germany, Italy etc are very similar standards.

King has clearly more coaching experience than Mackinnon, while Sam has far superior knowledge of the NBL. Only time will tell whether King was the right choice or not.

I haven't seen this actually confirmed anywhere. He’s still listed as the coach in Turkey. His side in Germany finished eighth out 18, play in spot and they were rated higher than that, as I said previously management moved him on after two seasons. It’s doesn’t make a lot sense to me why he suddenly being poached and certainly before this weekend game if true, it could be an owner call. He might’ve wanted out of Turkey as owners have a lot to say there as well.

Does Euroleague have a high % of American coaches?
The NBA doesn't have a high % of international coaches.

now officially confirmed

I see it is officially confirmed but I also sore his name on the score sheet last night in Turkey. He won't be coaching this weekend you would think, possibly not even the next.

I highly doubt high school teams in the US are better ran than NBL1 squads.

I think Tatum got the job more based on who his son and his cousin (Tyrone Lue) is and a hopeful link to potential end of bench NBA players.

Considering in the US each state has its own rules around timing, shot clock, 3 seconds in key, zoning rules, ect.

And on top some if not most NBL1 clubs hold some NBL athletes in their program.

As in practice 4, 5 times a week. S and c, access to facilities. The amount of practice and reps he would get and judged on results, and could potentially be in that environment multiple years compared to

2x a week practice, short season, as hoc facilities access etc. unstable nature.

The amount of reps leading a team can't be understated

There are some outlier prep programs like Montverde that roll out lottery picks every year. But even they would struggle against experienced men. But they definitely have a big budget for coaches/travelling/facilities etc. But majority of high schools are average. Talent wise the world has caught up like higher levels.
Would like to know how Tatum got the gig initially, reckon it'd be more networking than his resume really. But he's shown that he can get players to buy in which is most of the battle. Plenty of coaches that know X and Os but can't gain the trust of players. Like a player that looks amazing in workouts but have no idea in a game.
So ATM rank him in top 3 with Vickerman and Roth. Juries still out with Wells, Brian is just confusing these days, kind of like Pop, Rillie is too hot headed, Forde either looks like a superstar or a bum depending on night but with his budget would put him behind top 3.

I'm not talking about the level, I’m talking the reps and value of being a head coach.

Rillie has been a career assistant at higher levels than high school and he’s been floundering since day dot.

I gave Rillie the benefit of the doubt regarding defense, even though he was an offensive minded player, because I assumed college coaching would have taught him it. Evidently not, shame on me.

Third season in and he hasn't evolved, shame on him.

King wasn't known for his sides D at Ludwigsburg, it’s part of the reason they went back to Patrick. His Turkish side have let a few points in as well. Interesting times for SEM. Hawks game this weekend might tell a lot.

That puff piece they put up at halftime was not entirely correct, their best season he was the assistant coach, they were ok when he took over no where near as good. They never even mentioned he started I Turkey this season. He might end up nbl coach of the year, who knows but talking him up so early makes it hard, certainly when he's not as defensive coach. Anyway I wish him luck because SEM does seem a tough place to work.

Tommy Greer steps down as SEM CEO, kind of.

https://nbl.com.au/news/phoenix-ceo-resigns

He's not going yet and is going to stay in the job until he finds his own replacement and then will stay on in an advisory role until June 30, 2025.

The press release champions the signings of Mitch Creek, Ryan Broekhoff and Zhou Qi.

Great segment with King on overtime tonight

Good show tonight on overtime, Lowery making a lot sense, I can't believe I’m saying that. Vonhoff much better than previous guy. Copeland very good, Hooley still talks to much.