ME
Two months ago

Boomers thoughts - Milton Doyle - Kyrie Irving - Coaching

So two interesting names popped up in Boomers discussion today - Kyrie Irving and Milton Doyle. Kyrie indicated that he'd 'entertain' the idea of playing for the Boomers presumably if he is overlooked by Team USA, and Milton Doyle said he wants to get citizenship and play for the team. How do people feel about that?

For me, Irving probably wouldn't actually follow through but if he did, even at 36 come the next Olympics, he'd be a near lock. As for Doyle, there's a logjam at the positon with Giddey, Exum, Daniels, Green, Furphy, Proctor all near locks for the guard spots, and Henshal and other guards coming up behind them.

Also Gazey was talking about the Boomers coaching spot and mentioned he'd like to see Andrej Lemanis in the role again. I've defended Lemanis consistently for about 10 years and I've always thought he's the best coach the team has had. Before pandering to Ben Simmons or anyone else we need to look at who built the culture to be what it was when we were consistently our most successful, and Lemanis had the Boomers humming with a consistently play style across all levels from qualifiers, to the big games and beyond and if not for a few pretty minor hiccups would have 2 medals around his neck.

Other names mentioned were the obvious ones, Trevor Gleeson, Dean Vickerman, Adam Caporn, Matt Neilsen. Meh... I'd pick Gleeson over the rest of them but I am not enamoured with anyone who presided over the last world cup and Olympics. Scott Roth should definitely be considered for either head or assistant coach.

In other thoughts we're seeing an emergence of a few players who look set to fall in the 27/28 frame - Alex Toohey, Luke Travers, Jack McVeigh, Rocco Zikarsky, Ben Henshal, Taran Armstrong, Lachlan Olbright as obvious bolters, and Toohey, Zikarsky and Henshal firming up their draft prospects at the same time.

Will be an interesting couple of years but already some things to look at as we head towards LA.

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

Australia is a "developed nation' so unless FIBA have changed something again Kyrie can't play for us as he's already played for Team USA. Eric Gordon who also played for Team USA was able to switch to the Bahamas because they're a developing basketball nation.

I read the Milton Doyle article and even though he's not the player he was in his first season for the JJ's in a reduced role offensively he could be pretty handy can get his shot off over anyone. Tyler Harvey is supposedly going to naturalise mid-next season and Bryce Cotton talks about naturalising too. But you can only have one naturalised player.

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Two months ago

I'd be surprised if Doyle, Harvey or Cotton actually made the team but an argument could be made for needing a shot creator, which all three are. Cotton probably a bit small, so Harvey or Doyle might be a chance. Have to also wonder what Patty Mills will be doing by 2027/8. But I think we'd have to be in a pretty poor spot if he's still getting a call up at 40. Didnt have the foot speed this year to negate his height disadvantages and that's not going to improve. Someone is going to need to step up and get buckets. But with Furphy and McVeigh at least we look like we're starting to plug some shooting holes.

Inside we're looking at Landale/Zirkasky possibly Reath or Cooks, maybe Magnay. Still a bit thin inside depending how Zikarsky develops.

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Dunkman  
Two months ago

Is Zirkasky better than Olbrich, I just don't see it yet. Zirkasky got lot work to do, he’s reminding me of Soto. To me if you are taking a shooter it’s Harvey but I’d have no problem with Cotton.

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KL  
Two months ago

May as well have Roth as coach if McVeigh, Magnay and Doyle all on the team.

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Two months ago

I completely spaced on Alex Ducas in projections. As for Zikarsky, he's like 18 or 19 now so a couple of years behind yet. Hes projected pick 28 right now but his agility and mobility defensively are probably questions. Looks like he's worked on a 3 ball. Could be anything from a Luke Nevill all the way up to a Bogut or so it's really hard to say.

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Two months ago

"To me if you are taking a shooter it's Harvey but I’d have no problem with Cotton."

Needs to be a scorer not necessarily a spot up shooter. If we're betting on Patty either not being there or not being a main guy then we're going to need scorers.

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KL  
Two months ago

Didn't Cotton say only a few weeks ago that he doesn’t want to play for the Boomers?

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KL  
Two months ago

Going to be a huge advantage for the Cats, Hawks and JJs over the other teams for years if those 3 players become naturalised in terms of roster construction. Doyle was talking about living here all year which would be a huge thing given he would be foregoing big $$ in the off-season playing in the likes of Peurto Rico.

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Diop Kick  
Two months ago

Cotton gave up on the boomers thing when Basketball Australia didn't support his citizenship application.

Goorijan didn’t rate cotton, I thought he seemed like the perfect relief for Mills.

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Basket 91  
Two months ago

If the 3 players get naturalised they would be able to be marquee players and their whole salary wouldn't count against the cap which would mean they could get high level imports next to them or have another import spot.

For example if Froling left Illawarra they could replace him with an import or upgrade on Kell/Days which is scary!

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Yup  
Two months ago

IMO it would be great having them at camp, Thybulle too

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Crackers65  
Two months ago

Don't be surprised if Mills thinks he can go around again. After his ultimatum about Ingles he should never be selected again, but this is Basketball Australia.
I’d like to see either Lemanis, Roth or Gleeson, not necessarily in that order but we need a complete break from the Goorjian boys.

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Dunkman  
Two months ago

Lemanis or Gleeson would be great but get Bogut involved so nba guys will listen.

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mball  
Two months ago

"Don't be surprised if Mills thinks he can go around again. After his ultimatum about Ingles he should never be selected again, but this is Basketball Australia."

I understand this was rumoured but is it the truth? Any solid evidence?

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mball  
Two months ago

"I'd like to see either Lemanis, Roth or Gleeson, not necessarily in that order but we need a complete break from the Goorjian boys.

Sorry I forgot this part. Some of "Goorjian's boys" were with Lemanis when the team almost medalled and played the right way. Nielsen, Caporn and Patrick from memory.

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