11-16 November means camp probably coming up soon, September-October.
09/10 Athletes.

Boys and girls at the same time.

I see New Zealand has named their 12. Very organised over the ditch!

Thanks Weedy. Do you have a list in mind for the girls squad?

NZ, indeed very organised.
BA, still shite...



U15 NZ Boys squad
Tawhiri Cate, Canterbury Basketball
Fletcher Cooper, Kapiti Basketball
Jackson Couper, Waitakere West Basketball
Noah Duncan, Harbour Basketball
Brigham Hakaraia, Waitakere West Basketball
Malakhai Joyner, Harbour Basketball
Daley Pohio, Harbour Basketball
Lawson Pryor, Basketball Auckland
Tarquinius Schwalger, Waitakere West Basketball
Marco Sula, Canterbury Basketball
Roma Tuimaunei, Canterbury Basketball
Lincoln Wilson, Harbour Basketball

Reserves
JC Goodman, Basketball Auckland
Kolo ki Lakepa Liku, Basketball Auckland
Darius Latu, Wellington Basketball
Cullen Parai, Basketball Waikato
Taye Thomson, Basketball Auckland


U15 NZ Girls squad
Emilia Ainley, Nelson Basketball
Shaman Broughton, Tauranga City Basketball
Shamar Broughton, Tauranga City Basketball
Makenzie Disher, Canterbury Basketball
Ava Jones, Canterbury Basketball
Areta Kahura, Tauranga City Basketball
Sienna Maurice, Harbour Basketball
Riley McClenaghan, Tauranga City Basketball
Imani Rasmussen, Harbour Basketball
Maniah Taefu, Canterbury Basketball
Nahala Toeleiu, Wellington Basketball
Kilani-Mae Tuineau, Counties-Manukau Basketball

Reserves
Rosie Gaffaney, Basketball Otago
Sienna Letoa-Tuala, Porirua Basketball Association
Olive Maling, Harbour Basketball
Madison Skelton, Harbour Basketball


Some good players, these days you can see 2-3 future tall blacks/ferns in every age group.

'Charis Broughton, Tauranga City Basketball
Shamar Broughton, Tauranga City Basketball'

IamBear,

Copied from the U16 thread...

PG Neate(09) tas-Robinson(09) wa m-Elliot(09) sa m-Sherrington(09) qld s/-Catip(09) qld n(09)-Baensch(09) vic c, 1-2 of
CG Hocking(09) sa c
SG Olechnowicz(09) qld s
SG Smith(09) qld n
G/F Moke(09) qld s-G/F Daly(10) sa m-SG Bonham(10) nsw c-G/F Tako(09) nsw m, 1-2 of
CF Ryan(09) aus/vic m
PF/C Richardson(09) vic m-CF Barbakas(09) vic m-C/PF Ilic(09) qld s-PF/C Trout(09) vic m-C/PF Mapp(09) qld n, 2 of
C Johnson(09) qld s
C Clague(10) nsw m


Others might not agree.
Not sure if Fakalata will be available?
Quite a few injured that won't be.

Thanks Weedy, always on the job. :)

NP

Who are you hearing thats injured Weedy? Has Trout recovered from her shoulder?

Thinking of long term injuries, like ljubicic.
Trout is not fully recovered.

Fakalata has served her suspension and I hear she's expected to make her return to the game this Friday.
If she comes back strong and is invited to try out for the team, she'd be hard to overlook

Have they announced coaches?

Clark- heard nothing on the boys but a rumour of Jacqui O'Neill for the girls. I’m sure Weedy will know !

The 12 must have a pass first pg and a genuine outside threat to complement the locks.

2 pass first pgs Elliot and Sherrington.
2 best outside shooters Moke and Daly.

Probably only room for 1 of each.

Any of those 4 would do well.

@cantshoot3's heard that rumour too plus Nathan Cooper-Brown (Vic Country HP) for the boys.

@baseline - There you go, thank you. Jaqqui was extremely pregnant last time i saw her so i wasnt sure if she would be doing it.
Good news for Nathan also

What about the guy from Queensland South Pat McInnery - he works in the HP for BQ and did an awesome job with his squad.

You could be right TeamnWo. Again another great option. As i mentioned mine was a rumour. Im sure BA cant be far off announcing the coaches and squads !!!

Does NCB deserve a shot after leading the team to 15th of 16 at the U17 WC?

You would have to consider that U17 WC a learning experience. I'm sure NCB is more equipped than most to prevent a repeat now.

Plenty of exp before playing in a WC.
Most coaches get 2 cycles but that's the worst finish we have ever had.
Came so close to beating the silver medalists but from then on, threw in the towel.
Hopefully a better outcome at the of this cycle.

NCB not appointed for Oceania's. Does not mean he won’t be appointed for Asia and World’s in this cycle though.

Jacqui and Pat also weren't appointed for the girls. The HC is from interstate.

Sec and Jayhoops thanks for the intel. V interesting... any idea who the coaches are then for boys and girls?

If it's not garlepp, it’s usually the assistant. Martin maybe...
Boys possibly Arnott.

Weedy - Boys side correct...

So is Graham the girls coach?

Nope. You were warm, but also not at the same time.

Hill?

Hahaha come on @jayhoops put us out of our misery!

Hmmm - R.Garlepp?

Thanks Sec, Jayhoops and Weedy.... Arnott seems like a great choice for the boys.... now just to know who the girls coach will be : )
Surely they will send out invites to trial soon? How many people do you think they'll invite to trial?

Hopefully more than previous years but probably 17-18.
Maybe they already know the 12... would be stupid though when it's held here - 2.5 months out.

IMO, these days should be 4 camps minimum 24(1) to 18(2) to 15(3)(the 3 reserves) to 12(4)

strange that NZ actually selected NZ players, makes for a change.

Thanks Weedy!

Toeleiu could have played for 3 nations.

would she have been picked by the third country? smart move to go nz as they generally play all the same comps as us. there must be a few others who might tak eup other options if they dont get the nod from BA this time.

Good question. How does that work. Say Toeleiu has already been selected for NZ and named.
If AUS select her now does she make the choice or the fact NZ has already named her she's made that choice ???
I don’t blame the kid for picking NZ as she could wait forever for BA to announce the AUS squad and then get overlooked and then miss both options!

they would not list players without knowing which country they wanted to represent.

Yes, 3 I know of have duel citizenship. Nothing new. Previous sapphires squad also had a few.

Thanks Weedy.
Surely BA can't be far off naming the coaches and both boys/girls squads?

This is BA you're talking about - I admire (but question) your optimism

They could announce the coaches, but athletes invited depend on the camp details - which hasn't been finalized. Obviously they ordinarily announce all that at once, but there's a fair bit in flux right now.

Will they announce just 10-11 players again to save some cash?

I'm guessing because it’s in Aus they will choose 12.

Weedy, normally for Oceania's the roster selected is 10 athletes. Moves to 12 athletes for Asia and World’s.

Nz bring 10?

I wonder if the just announced Basketball Without Borders camp in Perth September 19-22 has caused an issue with the scheduling of the Oceania selection camp...?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/perth-to-host-basketball-without-borders-asia-camp-in-conjunction-with-nbls-hoopsfest/ar-AA1p5DVx?ocid=BingNewsVerp

Possibly DeepWombat but thats an age group above isnt it? , unless there are players that could be considered for both.

It says 17 and under, so would be U18s, mostly if not all, yes.

Seems to conflict directly with the U18 Club Champs though.

Scheduling tsunami.

Also conflicts with the VC grand finals

Weedy - for several Oceania's now at U15 & U17 level Aus have elected to only send 10 athletes. Other countries can send up to 12.

Oh dear! So they clearly won't get the best 30!

Maybe. Will be just Global Academy and COE kids I guess. That might be enough to fill a camp of 30

Any updates here ? Coaches / squads ?

Good job the Oceania teams are weak. No preparation time but they'll still win gold.

Any 4 players plus olechnowicz will do it. Doesn’t matter who coach is I could coach at Oceania and win gold.

Camp is 1-3 October.

Thanks sec! Will it be in Canberra? Are these camps always in Canberra?

Seems tokenistic. Late and short. Might just be the team and a few ressies rather than a camp for selection.

Interesting list.

That's a massive tease.

@Massive - do you have a list of athletes that have been invited to attend the selection camp?

I'm hearing through the grapevine only 1 bottom ager. Not sure how accurate this is as it’s third/fourth hand.

1 bottom aged confirmed.

Bottom age im aware of :Clague - NSW M , L Gribben - SAM

Daly

Bonham

Clague

No Bonham or Daly I'm told

Daly wasn't in the original 25 listed. Bonham was but cut when the list went to 20.

Again third/fourth hand information. Not sure how reliable.

Daly was in 25.

I thought she would have been. That's why I wasn’t sure how reliable my info was.

Bonham shouldn't be cut.

Imo she should have. Might make the team going forward but not atm.

https://www.australia.basketball/news/4099412/next-wave-invited-for-fiba-u15-oceania-cup-selection

Tavete still in, must really rate her as she has already played for Samoa.

From who's left, I’d assume

2 of Robinson, Elliot, Catip, Sherrington
Hocking
Olechnowicz
Smith
Moke
Tavete
Ryan
Richardson
Ilic
Johnson
Clague

Incorrect, Pinch.

Barbakas in the 25? Coming from reserves vic to be one of the better players didn't help her chances. (Footy also a priority.)

Yeah my mail was a bit off. That's why I don’t like posting too much as I don’t trust info I get. Bit too far removed from it all. Maybe I need to get closer with BV

all correct weedy

this is why we are not a top nation anymore. we do talent id badly. focus on short term. id be interested to see birth dates for wholecamp.

Watene in on the boys side, very much needed.

Eden Catip QLD 09
Sasha Clague NSW 10
Alek Deng Deng SA 09
Annaliese Elliot SA 09
Lara Gribben SA 10
Daisy Hocking SA 09
Jovana Ilic QLD 09
Violet Johnson QLD 09
Elise Napier VIC 09
Lily Mapp QLD 09
Mya Moke QLD 09
Olivia Olechnowicz QLD 09
Sophie Richardson VIC 09
Keira Robinson WA 09
Madison Ryan VIC 09
Jade Sherrington QLD 09
Isabel Smith QLD 09
Willow Smith VIC 09
Angela Tako NSW 09
Vanessa Tavete VIC 09

And I come back to my earlier point. Interesting.

You thought more 2010s would be taken? Make the top 20?

Good that we have a bit of height to develop. Been lacking true centres the past few years.
Ilic, Johnson, Clague, Deng. 4x 6'4 or taller.

Personally I don't mind the squad and there are always surprises.

Daly, Neate, Bonham are all very unlucky IMO-Always hard luck stories when it comes to this.

I would’ve selected Barbakas but I don’t know the full story behind why she was originally a reserve for Vic M.

Does anyone know if Trouts shoulder injury was the reason she was overlooked?

Not bothered about 09/10. People make more of that than is needed. There are some 10s who are top 20 and there some 09s who are top and should be in over those selected. Lucky/unlucky as cantshoot3s stated. Doesn't look like top 20 was picked. Looks like best by position and that plays out different.

Best by position is the only way to select a team right?

Definitely a bias to height, as there should be for national teams.

Will be interesting to see if any bottom agers get picked, and think they may pick 1-2 in both boys and girls to assist with the continuity for future teams.

Yes you're right to a degree I’d agree with that. But it’s best not to be rigid. Some stronger positions than other as to be expected. Height prioritised in some positions but not all. This in part is why I found it so interesting because the logic is not obvious. Some random choices without much evidence to back them IMO. I raised Bonham before she has a pedigree consistently performs at the level but some others have not delivered comparably on the same stage even as older players. Might understand more when coaches confirmed.

My understanding the coaches are Renae Garlepp
Jenna Ohea
Jacqui O'Neil
Jenny longergan

How would you expect the bigs(boys or girls) to be used? As true offensive weapons down low, pick and roll or more off ball screens and around the dunker position?
Defensively will it be rim protection against much shorter teams or will/should they go more man to man?

Were there any bottom age boys invited? If so, does anybody know from the list who is 09 and 10?

3 boys bottom agers, Pilot Holmes, Dynan and Dooley