Luuuc
Last year

Opals vs Canada - 9:30pm AEST

As Cram mentioned,

The Canadians have been giving us a kicking in lots of team sports so far at these games. We need to get one back!


Hope we're up for the fight tonight after the opening game embarrassment.

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Dunkman  
Last year

I'm hoping, just certainly not convinced a lot will change.

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James Harvey fan  
Last year

Pretty shocking that Australia are $1.25 favourites given the abysmal display v Nigeria.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

A loss probably means the end of the tournament for the opals.
Hopefully we come out firing.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Pretty shocking that Australia are $1.25 favourites given the abysmal display v Nigeria.

Agreed.
Did anyone here catch Canada vs France?
There is some legit talent in that Canadian team so I'm interested to know how they managed to lose by 21.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

France are deeper.
I think Fathoux, Bernies and Lacan over Epoupa was a bad decision.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Opals ready to put 'embarrassing' loss behind them
Kane Pitman
Article Link

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Luuuc  
Last year

Still so careless with the ball

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Indeed.

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Dunkman  
Last year

And missing layups

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TJet  
Last year

Early days, despite turnovers looking better.
I think opals match up well against Canada.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Good to see Sami knock down a couple early.

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Dunkman  
Last year

To much dribble, got move the ball. Only thing I have not enjoyed at the basketball is lack of shot clock till five seconds.

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Hooping  
Last year

I would be starting Jackson for two reasons, 1) she gets strong rebounds and 2) she busts some heads.

I would never play whitcomb or melbourne together, they are the same outta control player

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MaxM  
Last year

Man why the heck is Sami Whitcomb playing backup PG, clearly not capable aside from making open threes. Get her off ball.

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Big Ads  
Last year

Forgive my French (canadian) but fucking turnover after fucking turnover.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Sami on D is losing her man alot.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Oh boy. Ezi that was reeeally dumb

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Derider  
Last year

This is so hard to watch.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Ezi wtf was that foul. On 3 now.

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TJet  
Last year

To win, Gotta use Ezi/Smith/LJ superior inside & 3pt game.

Must shutdown Carleton shooting and let Canada ride on Nurse shooting

That's if turnovers stop and layups go in.

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Mathew  
Last year

I'm not seeing any game plan against Canada, the opals look lost and appear to be confused. The coaches wise words are look after the ball, mine thought would have been let’s move the ball through some hands (seeing as we have no decent PG) and create some space in the lane for easier lay ups and open up some perimeter shooting.

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Derider  
Last year

I remember when the Opals were good. Wtf did Brondello do to them?

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Dunkman  
Last year

Same rubbish, broom needed

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ozehooper  
Last year

Love Tolo. She's the Nick Kay of the Opals. Absolute pro

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Brondello has always promoted exp over youth.

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Screeningnick  
Last year

Borlase should not be playing over Wallace.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Apparently youth is all that matters though

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ozehooper  
Last year

Borlase out of her depth

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Tolo been solid.
Borlase nervous, not like her...

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Perthworld  
Last year

Why take an unnecessary step-back when no one is in front of you. Having no jump shot at this level from a guard is embarrassing.

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Screeningnick  
Last year

Good call about Tolo being like Nick Kay. Just fundamentally sound and provides stability on both ends.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

As she loses the ball...

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Luuuc  
Last year

Tolo is not fast and is not even a WNBA player. Why is she in the squad?

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TJet  
Last year

Old vets Tolo & George steadying the ship. Still a hot mess but showing some grit - a lead is a lead.

Don't understand Brondello’s rotation with LJ. First off the bench yet barely gets any minutes rest of half.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Because we only have 2 bigs in the wnba...

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Luuuc  
Last year

Exiting sarcasm mode though, thank goodness for Sami. I don't even want to contemplate what that half would have been without her.

Important contributions from the bench to steady the ship.

We need to do much better in the 2nd half though.

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Somehow have the lead despite so many errors.
Canada making a lot of bad reads on the defensive end helping our cause.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Yeah, Canada's errors kinda helping to paper over the cracks of a substandard first half.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Good thing about group c is japan and Belgium will face each other with about -30 or 40 each I reckon.
China and PR also in big trouble.

Good for aus if we beat canada.

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Dunkman  
Last year

Worst game I've watched. Who ever go through next round isn’t meddling

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Perthworld  
Last year

Exiting sarcasm mode though

I didn't think this was possible with you.

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Perthworld  
Last year

Sweet Caroline? *cringe*

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Perthworld  
Last year

This is the ugliest game I've seen since Perth Wildcats 66-23 Shanghai Sharks.

Neither team deserves to win.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Ezi does not look her usual self tonight. Need Seattle Ezi ASAP.
And just as I write that .. she picks up #4 :(

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Perthworld  
Last year

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.

WTF is this.

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Luuuc  
Last year

I'm flabbergasted by how little we appear to care about throwing the ball away.

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Perthworld  
Last year

One awful air ball each on back to back plays.

This is embarrassing.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

I'm gonna throw up...

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SamCro  
Last year

Can anyone list the valuable traits that Tess Madgen brings to the Opals? I'm struggling to come up with any...

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

I change my mind, brondello deserves to keep coaching the opals until 2028...

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Hooping  
Last year

Samcro- Madgen - no turnovers. almost makes her starting 5

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Cruella Deville  
Last year

I'm sitting here wondering what the hell these coaches & teams were doing on their days off. Obviously not scouting the opposition or working on their game plans.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Takes her about 10 secs to decide what to do and another 10 if she's the primary pg.

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Luuuc  
Last year

mind you, it's easy to keep the turnovers down when you're willing to dribble the ball aimlessly for 23.9 seconds

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Hooping  
Last year

Jackson/Tolo - one should be on at all times.

Borlase almost the only player who can create off the dribble.

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Perthworld  
Last year

"No threes" was the instruction in the timeout.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Brondello pissed.

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Luuuc  
Last year

"No threes" was the instruction in the timeout.

Opals very obedient. Don't think we've made one this half.

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Hooping  
Last year

Masters team on at times

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Yep, over 34 squad.

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Derider  
Last year

Maybe the worst game of basketball I've ever watched. I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many missed layups. It’s just embarrassing. At least Nigeria was sometimes ok in the last one. These two teams look like they can’t really play at all.

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Hooping  
Last year

Smith killing us, typical dumb fouls and poor defense, i am so surprised she can play in the WNBA, might say something about the standard of the WNBA.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Stop fouling.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Smith probably actually listens to reeves.

Not happy with sandy, picking her, never playing her and replacing her with Garbin.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Well done George, 4 big 3s tonight.

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Perthworld  
Last year

Oh Canada.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Yay, another missed layup
:/

Margin is closing

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Let's fk it up with 2 mins to go, geez we were up by 13 with possession...

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Hooping  
Last year

a win by 14 would be excellent

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Luuuc  
Last year

As bad as we've been ... man ... Canada have been every bit as sloppy

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Nice Tolo.

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Cool Howie  
Last year

Luuuuuc is a crack up. Keep em coming big fella

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Hooping  
Last year

Weedy, yeah they really need a long athletic 3/4 with some smarts - missing Garbin

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

We good aslong as we don't get slaughtered by France.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Garbin is not a 3 but ok.

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Dunkman  
Last year

The vets have actually done well, Tolo, George, Whitcomb, Talbot, rest underwhelming

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Luuuc  
Last year

Vets have saved our arses big time in this one.

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Cool Howie  
Last year

We have a smart & long 3. She's injured.

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Luuuc  
Last year

We good aslong as we don't get slaughtered by France.

Certainly no guarantee of that if we dish this same stuff up again

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

No Wallace or Atwell today, next game maybe.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Give Atwell 30 seconds now, I say

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Gonna be like Tokyo, make the 8 and lose big first game in?

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Perthworld  
Last year

I'm not sure what I just watched, except that it stunk and involved Canada.

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Hooping  
Last year

need a defensive stop, so leave george in while Ezi sitting.. seems strange

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Don't need this late, another stupid foul.

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Hooping  
Last year

Melbourne almost unplayable, she cant handle the ball, only shoots layups - Rocci would have been better.

The team that played China would have played better.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Made that look difficult, we stink.
Could have been in the +, now -8.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Madgen calling for less dribbling is peak hypocrisy

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Hooping  
Last year

Assuming France goes undefeated.

Opals need Nigeria to beat Canada.

or Canada to beat Nigeria by 22.

That last minute very costly.

The game v France is almost a must win now.

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Hardtop383  
Last year

Where are all the posts saying get rid of the old vets?
Out defence won us that game, especially Sami. She was relentless.

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Dafence  
Last year

"we have to take better care of the ball"....
20 turnovers

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Luuuc  
Last year

Out defence won us that game, especially Sami. She was relentless.

Very thankful for the unusually spaced scheduling of these games, because Sami will need all the rest she can get with the load that she is being forced to carry.

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Ben  
Last year

@Perthworld - bravo on the use of Terrance and Phillip *chefs kiss*

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Grimace  
Last year

I blame the WNBA for the turnovers. Not enough practice games with the full team because of the ridiculous scheduling. They don't know each other

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Hmmm  
Last year

@hooping I disagree re: Melbourne. She's the only true PG and needs the bigs to actually roll hard to rim, they were so stationary in their on-ball. Better off with Tolo and Jackson at the 5 with Jade on floor.

Re: only layups - I put it down to coach instruction, there were plenty of opportunities for her to shoot the 3 when Canada went under screens and she didn't even look at the rim. Melbourne would pull the trigger every time in either WNBA or WNBL.

Doesn't help confidence when she gets dragged for errors, Madgen stays in after same errors and more of them. Dribbles the air out of ball and can't beat any defender 1v1

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Luuuc  
Last year

No one took more shots per minute than Melbourne & Borlase. They combined for 3/14 in their 24 minutes so maybe we shouldn't feel too disappointed that they didn't pull the trigger even more last night.
As for Melbourne making fewer errors than Madgen in that game, why even write a flat out lie like that? Other people with functioning eyes watched the game too, you realise?

Melbourne & Borlase are both the types of players who can snap straight back into killer mode, and let's hope one or preferably both of them do vs France because I don't think we have any chance without it. Sami is going to cop a *lot* of attention that game.
Melbourne in particular will be important with Wallace no certainty to even be available.

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Anonymightymouse  
Last year

"Our defence won us that game, especially Sami. She was relentless."

The Opals half-court defence is the trademark of this team, got them bronze at the WC. Problem is, when you turn the ball over 20+ times each game your half-court D is getting bypassed a lot.

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Perthworld  
Last year

@Perthworld - bravo on the use of Terrance and Phillip *chefs kiss*

Unfortunately we can't BlAme Canada, it was entirely on us.

Having a look through squads and aside from the US every other head coach is either full time with the national side or involved in college programs which have shorter seasons. Many seem to have left club roles at the end of 2022-23 in order to focus on the Olympic campaign.

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Hmmm  
Last year

@luuuc - each of those were good shots for both those players but not dropping. both getting to good spots on the floor to take them. And actually looked like creating something.

Eye test re: Errors - dribbling the ball until 4 on the shot clock is an error in my book. She doesn't get the turnover stat but it was killing us on the offensive end.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

A
Serbia 2-0 +25
Spain 2-0 +2
PR 0-2 -4
China 0-2 -23

B
France 2-0 +42
Nigeria 1-1 -8
Australia 1-1 -8
Canada 0-2 -26

C
USA 2-0 +39
Germany 2-0 +25
Belgium 0-2 -27
Japan 0-2 -37


Belgium and Japan in trouble, lots of ground to make up, hopefully a close game between the 2.
One of PR or China should make the 1/4s.
Australia if they can keep it close or win vs France, we also make 1/4s.
Canada gets beat- we hope.

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Luuuc  
Last year

@luuuc - each of those were good shots for both those players but not dropping. both getting to good spots on the floor to take them. And actually looked like creating something.

I disagree that the shot selection from both of them was ideal for the circumstance.

What I will say is that both are attacking players and both are prone to errors when playing their natural games. And we need to be ok with that to a degree, because if you're not going to let them play the way that got them selected in the first place, they might as well not be there. They are both 100% worthy of being there.

It's no different with Sami. She's loose with the ball at times as well, and has the green light to take shots you wouldn't want most players taking. You need players on the team who are able and, just as importantly, willing to do that. And you need to wear the fact that their percentages will often suffer as a result. Because it's for the good of the team overall.
You can't have nobody willing to take a shot when things get tough.

But none of that means we need to deny the reality of what we saw.
There were some poor decisions. Shit happens. It would be nice if shit happened a little less often, but mostly I think what the team needs now is more good stuff to happen so that the shit doesn't hurt so much.
Smith, Magbegor, Borlase, Melbourne all have plenty of improvement up their sleeves compared to last night, just by turning in a normal game by their own standards. I'll probably add LJ to the list as well.

Hopefully in addition to Xs & Os, one of Sandy's focuses before France is reinforcing to her players - the younger ones in particular - that they are capable, that they need to keep playing to their own strengths knowing that things will click eventually, and that everyone still backs them to do that.

France destroyed the team that destroyed us, but on paper there's no reason we shouldn't be able to compete with them on Monday.

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William 23  
Last year

@luuc As for Melbourne making fewer errors than Madgen in that game, why even write a flat out lie like that? Other people with functioning eyes watched the game too, you realise?

While that may be the case its not hard to not make errors when you do almost nothing of value!! 28 Mins 1-2 1 Ast. Never really looked at the ring slow as hell and made sure she was on the 18 year in defence EVERYTIME!

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Oldest squad it looks like.
(13 players) Avg age over 30.

Melbourne 22
Whitcomb 36*
Wallace 28
Madgen 34*
Borlase 20
Atwell 26
Talbot 30
Allen(inj) 32
Smith 28
Magbegor 25
George 35*
Tolo 35*
Jackson 43*

*Last tournament...


2026-2028 - Options to replace.
PG (Reid 28, Rocci 26, Heal 23, Amoore 23)
SG (Nicholson 31, Shelley 24, Swain 21)
SF (Kunek 33, Blicavs 31, Sharp 27, Bibby 26, Potter 22, Puoch 20)
PF (Garbin 30, Froling 28, Horvat 26, Bourne 24)
C (Scherf 28, Aokuso 26)

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Second oldest after the US, 30.9.

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Dunkman  
Last year

It's part problem, you have to keep regenerating from within, it’s a bit like the cricket test team, once you’ve in you stay in.

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Luuuc  
Last year

While that may be the case its not hard to not make errors when you do almost nothing of value!!

@William 23, that is an opinion that I have no issue with. What I wrote further above said more or less the same thing.
All I took issue with was someone attempting to rewrite history.

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