Rely
Last year
Boomers VS Finland
Looks to be an exciting game tonight, could be a nice start for the Aussies! Does anyone know which streaming platforms the game will be on?
Rely
Last year
Looks to be an exciting game tonight, could be a nice start for the Aussies! Does anyone know which streaming platforms the game will be on?
Big Fudge
Last year
It will be on Kayo, the 3:30 start time for Perth isnt the greatest for me so will be hiding away from all things social media and watching it delayed tonight.
Big Fudge
Last year
I think tip off is 4:00PM but show is on at 3:30
LV
Last year
I noticed Finland are missing 2 or 3 of their main rotation guys from EuroBasket, based on the WC warm up games.
In Eurobasket Markannen averaged 27 or 28ppg and next was 12. He's the main man.
KET
Last year
Finland are a classic Lauri gets 25 plus draws all the defensive attention so that the others that are shooters can knock down relatively open threes.
The scary part of that is 1) someone like Lauri can win a game off his own back and 2) if the others get hot, it's trouble
The flip side is, if you frustrate and get Lauri into foul trouble and the others go cold as can happen with all shooters, then Finland would look impotent and people will say "why so scared of this team?"
They’ll be a real hot or cold team, like Japan. The difference is Japan are playing at home but the Finnish have an absolute star they can rely on for a good 25 a game.
JT
Last year
Surely Thybulle will smother old mate from the first whistle
MaxM
Last year
I doubt Thybulle will go to Markannen.
6'5 vs 7'0 is too much
rjd
Last year
Also seems like Thybulle's defensive supremacy is strongest when starting off the ball, getting in passing lanes and pouncing as help defense.
Cram
Last year
I lost a reply on this.
I'm super nervous for this. We can't afford any slip ups and Finland definitely have the ability to cause an upset, particularly with our form being patchy at best in warm ups.
Yes we have a proven core and track record, but we all know its based on chemistry and cohesion more so that top end talent. It doesnt take much of a dip in that for things to go pear shaped.
Sorry, just jumpy on this one!
MaxM
Last year
Yes well the scary thought is if we lose then it's a must win against Germany who are probably a top-3 form team in the world right now or our world cup is effectively over.
koberulz
Last year
What's Lemanis up to these days? This looks terrible.
rjd
Last year
Watching on Courtside1891, the commentary suddenly stopped. Was the female commentator fired already?
MaxM
Last year
These refs are about to make me throw something at my TV
MACDUB
Last year
I mean Ingles has been slow for a few years now; but man after the injury he's lost what speed he had left. Dude is nearly shot
Weedy Slug
Last year
Man we got some crap commentary on all 3 channels.
Scout
Last year
International basketball - tough stuff
Markkanen is damn impressive
Screeningnick
Last year
I'm sorry but Ingles can’t be a point of attack anymore.
rjd
Last year
This is rough. Hopefully the Ingles incident will fire up this team.
Ben
Last year
Not hating on Trev, but he's def not suited to working second fiddle off Casey.
Knockdown3
Last year
Small ball is hurting at both ends.
No inside offense
No interior D
MACDUB
Last year
Long way to go in this one and I'm sure they’ll get it together. But damn initial thoughts are that this team looks disjointed as hell and are going together like a heater and summer at the moment
Screeningnick
Last year
Giddeys going to be a superstar but Jesus Christ stop trying to make the fancy pass play smart.
rjd
Last year
Getting hand on the ball is no foul, but what about hand only immediately after the release?
MACDUB
Last year
Giddeys play is showing just how much reduced space there is in the fiba game. He looks like he's contained in a box. Seems like our offence is basically Patty Mills iso.
fan since the old snakepit
Last year
In China. Just arrived today. VPN won't connect to Australia so can't watch on Kayo.
Until I sort something out I'm relying on updates here.
MACDUB
Last year
Also if you thought the Boomers were small spare a thought for the Tall Blacks.
Scout
Last year
Snakepit Fan -Finland up by 3 with 2 minutes to half time
rjd
Last year
First game, but we have to use our depth and wear them down.
Big Ads
Last year
Boomers being whistled on the holds, Finland can bear hug but nothing to see (apparently)
Yup
Last year
Defense is turning up
Finland is tiny outside Lauri
Get used to the helter skelter style of play it's the new Boomers identity!!!
Ben
Last year
That the Boomers have been generally playing poorly, and will likely go in to the half with a lead, is remarkable.
rjd
Last year
It's like the identity of this 2023 team. Look unimpressive, but somehow the score line doesn't show it.
Yup
Last year
They aren't playing poorly, Finland has thrown everything they have... boomers have absorbed it
Boomers by 12
Big Ads
Last year
Agree rjd,
I am confident Boomers have the talent and depth to see this out. Had a couple of breakdowns but have also had some unlucky deflections go in Finland's favour.
Scout
Last year
Boomers up by 5 at the half due to some great D and a bit more patience in offence
Patty"TheGOAT"Mills
Last year
Goulding? Daniels?
If that's the case, I'll pick Maker...
Dunkman
Last year
Was always going to be tough early, agree with Giddy over dribbling, settled Dow well back 2nd quarter. Inglis shooting very well. Every one contributing. I'll stick with 15 plus win.
MaxM
Last year
Love to see Ingles and Mills, our co-captains, being our 2 leading scorers at the half.
hoopie
Last year
And Boomers all need to box out instead of allowing those tip-ins grrrr
Hendo8888
Last year
25 years ago John Casey picked 5 catch phrases and he hasn't thought to change them ever since
McBlurter
Last year
It changed for us when Mills when to the bench.
Giddey started driving and got the foils. It ticked over the scoreboard, to prevent momentum, and made Finland conscious of their fouls.
Once that happened, they started to save more, allowing us to get it over half court without Patty turning it over, and spacein the set.
Last play, cooks switched onto someone tiny and ran under the hops. Ingles still kept it, and fired too late...
Boxscore doesn't explain the play
MaxM
Last year
Exum is making things happen. Reath is cooking too. He should get more minutes instead of playing small ball the whole time
Sherro
Last year
Some of these foul calls are interesting to say the least. Letting heaps go off the ball but calling soft stuff elsewhere
JT
Last year
Exum might be our best player through the past 6 games?
Weedy Slug
Last year
Pinder or maker or both still needed next year
fan since the old snakepit
Last year
Thanks for the updates. Eating great food and trying to politely follow the scores along.
fan since the old snakepit
Last year
Thanks for the updates. Eating great food and trying to politely follow the scores along.
pattymillsMVP
Last year
Exum looking like prime MJ.
Like I said, never doubt Patty.
Big Ads
Last year
Lauri has gone cold had 11 at the half and only made on fg since
Boomers 81 - 57 Finland 7.24 ti go
Big Ads
Last year
Boomers 90 - 61 Fin (4.00 minutes left)
Bring on CG and DD
rjd
Last year
Happy to see White perform well. I've always thought his game would translate well in international FIBA ball. Only concern might be size.
Big Ads
Last year
Lassi Tuovi has settled down after being up and about in the 1st qtr
rjd
Last year
What matters in this, points diff or points percentage or head to head?
Big Ads
Last year
FSTOS
Final Boomers 98- 72 Finland
25 Mills
14 Giddey
19 Markkanen
KET
Last year
Finlands shooting was poor
Good to see Patty knocking his shot again
fan since the old snakepit
Last year
Abalone, squid, beer, dumplings and a Boomers win. Life's good.
Dunkman
Last year
Gleeson voice is not great but knows his shit, good addition to commentary. Exum learned a lot playing out of Spain and Serbia in the last few seasons. Mills plus 33, White plus 25, both really good. Very good performance all round. Reath also doing well. Patty just got the rust out in the practice games.
Patty"TheGOAT"Mills
Last year
The first half was tough, but the second half was really good.
Our team free throw percentage was really good.
I think team three-point shooting is going to be really important to beat Germany.
Scout
Last year
Are you in Tassie snakepit ?- that is a Tasmanian menu
fan since the old snakepit
Last year
I'm in Shenyang Nth China. First visit since pre COVID. Food is freaking awesome.
Is FIBA Patty back.
Anonymightymouse
Last year
A very nice first up win. Some sloppiness early, some good early hysteria on here too, but once they got the mix of intensity and smarts right defensively that was a lockdown.
Nice to see Patty play well, not that it was ever in doubt. Giddey struggled early, trying to do too much, but adjusted quickly which was a relief. We need him making good decisions.
I just love what White and Cooks bring. The way they defend, run the floor, screen, dive to the rim and hit the o-boards is just a perfect fit for this team.
Patty"TheGOAT"Mills
Last year
Boomers would have done better in the first half if they hadn't gotten up at 4am yesterday.
rjd
Last year
Minutes watch:
29 Mills
25 Giddey
20 Ingles
20 Kay
20 Reath
18 Thybulle
16 Exum
15 White
15 Cooks
14 Green
4 Goulding
4 Daniels
ME
(he/kangaroo)
Last year
There was a missile launch for North Korea that went awol and crashed into the sea and there was a worry it may land in Okinawa so there was a late night warning call to everyone in the city.
pattymillsMVP
Last year
What a luxury we have in distribution of minutes. We will have some fresh legs in the tournament.
ME
(he/kangaroo)
Last year
The first quarter was particularly woeful and hard to watch but given we inexplicably remained in the game despite it, I couldn't imagine us losing when we actually switched on, and that we did.
It was a 17-4 run for the Boomers and a 45-40 lead and I don't think we were ever headed after that.
Some interesting takeaways:
- The minutes split bodes well for us. With everyone hitting the floor and only Patty playing more than 25 minutes we should be walking into our second game with Germany relatively fresh. Despite having a dangerous big in Markkanen Duop Reath wasn't asked for any more than 20 minutes today, giving some faith in the small ball line up and the ways various guards and forwards were able to contain him.
- We won the rebounds 41-32, we also outshot them 30%-23 from the three point line, owing to incredible close-out defense. This is a game plan that should carry over to Slovenia as well. You may argue that Slovenia is a better team than Finland but they've got one dynamic threat, and then shooters packed around him. The jist of this game suggests we have something for Slovenia.
- The offense was ugly yet still managed to score almost 100 points. I don't think anyone would call this offense pretty. It doesn't look like those poetically scripted plays of the Lemanis days. And yet somehow, the ball is making its way into the basket. And the encouraging thing is it looks like we have a long way to go yet in improving in that area.
- The return of FIBA Patty, Jingling Joe, the emergence of Giddey, Exum an excellent back up point guard, Jack White and Xavier Cooks in all the right spots.
Overall, I am pretty happy with the final 3 quarters of that game. We still have a way to go to really reach our ceiling but the ceiling is clearly very high. Germany is a big test coming up, and I guess my concern is whether we've quite ironed out everything we need to before that game. I am very much encouraged by the fightback shown in this game, and all the adjustments they made to turn a potential nightmare loss into our biggest world cup win since 2014. It should be remembered that Finland aren't total ass either. It's not like this was a 26 point win against Iran here. They made the semi-finals of the Eurobasket so can make claim to be among the best European teams. What they don't have, though, are the kind of consistent runs on the board that the Boomers do, a program that has now been in the top echelon of world basketball for a decade now. So we have a wealth of experience in our coaching staff and team to fall back on, and we never looked too rattled at any point. Next stop, Germany, and hopefully we can get the win there then use the Japan team to a) win and b) also look at a few more things and really hone in on ourselves as we move into hopefully the second round of this tournament.
KET
Last year
A little bit surprised they kept Mills on aslong as they did when they were up almost 30
SamCro
Last year
Would have preferred Kelsey Griffin special comments over the 'very dry' Bec Allen...
Weedy Slug
Last year
Agree
Griffin very good.
Meadows everything is over the top, Allen dry, pitman meh, Gleeson, why...
They saved some money on flights I guess.
ME
(he/kangaroo)
Last year
"A little bit surprised they kept Mills on aslong as they did when they were up almost 30"
He was finding his shot so I think they wanted him to just keep shooting.
Luuuc
Last year
I enjoyed that, including having to fight back from a rough start.
Positives for most players to carry forward from that performance.
(Still kinda stressed about what happens when we face more quality bigs though)
Some interesting reffing out there, but thankfully we managed to ride through it. Will be interested to see whether they try to replicate that for the rest of the tourney.
KET
Last year
Reffing was pretty dodgy - about on par for World Cups isn't it.
I absolutely love Exum and what he brings, always been a big fan
LV
Last year
Loved that. Love love love. So many positives. Especially
Fiba Patty is back
Exum showing again why many thought he deserved an NBA call up after Tokyo. Glad it happened
White and Cooks playing their roles and having an impact
Aussie defense super disruptive and leading to the fast game we wanted to see
On an unrelated topic...why is Gaze commentating Germany Japan but not the Boomers!?!!
twenty four
Last year
"On an unrelated topic...why is Gaze commentating Germany Japan but not the Boomers!?!!"
Because there is a God after all.
rjd
Last year
Because the Germany v Japan game was probably using the FIBA/Courtside1891 feed. Gaze was also commentating the Australia v Finland game on the FIBA feed, so it seems he will commentate all Group E games.
Perthworld
Last year
Was the female commentator fired already?
Yup
Last year
First quarter is whatevs
Fin thru everything they had at the boomers and were pretty much cooked halfway thru the 2nd quarter
Finish that game thinking most these teams aren't gonna last 4 quarters with us
ME
(he/kangaroo)
Last year
"Finish that game thinking most these teams aren't gonna last 4 quarters with us"
Agreed. We're showing a great ability to eat punches. There's a saying, 'it's not how hard you hit, it's how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward'. We seem to just push through adversity. We showed it against France and now against Finland. That's what medal sides do.
I think we're going to grind down Germany, Japan (easy W), Slovenia (and a lot of the game plan from last night will follow through) and whoever else comes from the opposing group. But the situation gets a bit spicy in the quarterfinal. Last night's France v Canada thing has shown me we absolutely DO NOT want Canada but I think the blueprint for beating France is now well established. France may be suffering from a bit of aging. And with our ability to go deep and keep running at them I think we have the ability to beat them and perhaps even comfortably.
The path to a gold medal game
Germany - Japan/ Second group Slovenia and an Also-Ran/ Quarterfinal one of France/Spain and Canada (if we top group, should miss Canada) - Semi - one of Italy, Lithuania, USA, Serbia (if we are the best in our group situation once more, dodge USA) - Gold medal game against either Canada or USA.
The quarterfinal game is our medal game as far as I am concerned. Win that, and I give us a fantastic shot of beating one of Italy, Lithuania or Serbia from a much weaker side of the competition.
Tomorrows game against Germany is a big one - both literally and figuratively. We will get to see how much size really matters in this tournament. Having seen their result against Japan and after our game I am more confident about a win here than I was yesterday morning.
Knockdown3
Last year
"Tomorrows game against Germany is a big one - both literally and figuratively."
It will be important to play with consistent defensive intensity.
Green/Exum should have the assignment on Schroder, denying both the shot and inside feeds.
If we can defend well like the previous game, it should generate transition offense.
In the half court, the 3 needs to drop to open the interior and allow for penetration-score and/or dish off to back cuts and screening rolls & trailers (Cooks, White etc)
The reffing will be interesting given our defensive focus.
Some of the calls in the Finland game were *very* soft
Zodiac
Last year
That was a very good win I loved our defence and hustle. Good to see Patty get going and some impressive play by Exum and Cooks too. Should be much tougher competition against Germany though.
AngusH
Last year
We are a better side overall than Germany, but watching the Japan game (who are obviously more undersized than us... considerably so) they are a good example of a team who's biggest strength (literally) is our weakest link. Definitely a danger game.
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