Pot 1: Philippines, Spain*, USA*, Australia
Pot 2: France*, Serbia* (TBD), Slovenia*, Lithuania*
Pot 3: Greece*, Italy*, Germany*, Brazil
Pot 4: Canada*, Venezuela, Montenegro, Iran
Pot 5: Puerto Rico*, Finland, Dominican Republic*, New Zealand*
Pot 6: China*, Latvia, Mexico, Georgia
Pot 7: Jordan, Japan*, Angola, Lebanon
Pot 8: Cote d'Ivoire, Egypt, South Sudan*, Cape Verde


*Teams that are capable of beating us at full strength

Tough draw for Aus, USA is USA, hopefully their team looks like the last WC team that didn't medal.

Spain has been a power house for some time but a lot of those players have retired, still full of NBA talent.

Phillipines - future NBA MVP Kai Sotto looking to destroy the comp and lead Pinoy to first medal

Serbia in elimination matches proves how strong Europe is, pretty sure they’ll smash Britain by 40

Dang it. What a b*tch of a draw for the Boomers.

Every other pool, they'd be top 2. Weave your magic Goorg!

The pot aren't the teams you play against in a group.

USA Spain and Australia are pot 1 because they’re ranked 1,2,3.

Philippines are there because they’re host country.

Fellas, those are the pots, the groups haven't been drawn yet.
We are a too 4 team, that’s why we are in pot1.
Phillipines as hosts are in pot 1.

Dam, same time. Ket wins.

Um the draw isn't till April 29th. I'm pretty sure the pot allocations means we can't be drawn with Spain, the US and the Philippines in the preliminary rounds.

2019 WC Draw Procedure



Assuming, they will be using the same format for 2023.

32 team have qualified. The teams are then divided into 8 pots of 4 teams based on their World ranking. These 32 teams will then be distributed into 8 groups of 4 teams each! To balance the quality of the Groups Pots 1, 4, 5 & 8 will feed Groups A, C, E & G. While Pots 2, 3, 6 & 7 feed Groups B, D, F & H.

If we are vs 4/5/8

Best
Venezuela
Finland
Cape Verde


Worst
Canada
NZ/PR/DR all tough
South Sudan

Wouldn't want to face a full strength Canada. They’d be in the top pot....

Argentina getting knocked out of the tournament huge results.

Assuming the above pots are the correct, rankings will have changed.

Boomers likely get 1 from each of the following pots.

Pot 4: Canada, Venezuela, Montenegro, (Iran)
Pot 5: Puerto Rico, Finland, Dominican Republic, (NZ)
Pot 8: Cote d'Ivoire, Egypt, South Sudan, Cape Verde


However there are not enough Euro teams and too many African and Americas teams in one half of the draw.

Cape Verde for Latvia, Dom Rep for Georgia, Venezuela for Germany, potential type swaps.

At the moment.

USA, Montenegro, NZ, Africa

or

USA, Iran, Finland, Africa

The only new news here is the draw date.

The pot, as far as the Boomers are concerned, was already figured out last FIBA international window.

https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/news/procedure-for-fiba-basketball-world-cup-2019-draw

Wouldn't be shocked to see change of pots to balance. Only thing guaranteed is Philippines group A. USA in the Philippines, Slovenia in Japan, Canada in Indonesia

Changes will be made due to geographical principles. Based on current world rankings, which could alter, it would end up looking like this:

POT 1 - PHL, ESP, USA, AUS
POT 2 – FRA, SRB, SLO, LIT
POT 3 – GRE, ITA, GER, BRA
POT 4 – CAN, VEN, IRN, NZL
POT 5 – MNT, FIN, LAT, GEO
POT 6 – PUR, DOM, CHN, MEX
POT 7 – JOR, JPN, ANG, LEB
POT 8 – IVC, EGY, SSD, CVD

"Pot 1: Philippines, Spain*, USA*, Australia
Pot 2: France*, Serbia* (TBD), Slovenia*, Lithuania*
Pot 3: Greece*, Italy*, Germany*, Brazil
Pot 4: Canada*, Venezuela, Montenegro, Iran
Pot 5: Puerto Rico*, Finland, Dominican Republic*, New Zealand*
Pot 6: China*, Latvia, Mexico, Georgia
Pot 7: Jordan, Japan*, Angola, Lebanon
Pot 8: Cote d'Ivoire, Egypt, South Sudan*, Cape Verde


*Teams that are capable of beating us at full strength"

While I maintain a healthy respect for many of the teams in the world cup, it would surprise me greatly if Germany, Puerto Rico, DR, NZ, China, Japan or South Sudan were much more than a training run for a top tier Boomers team.

For me the big threats are (obviously) USA - barely even worth noting - France has to be the next big threat, Serbia and Slovenia. Canada may or may not ever get their act together. Greece is a bit of a one-man team, and theyre a team that "can" beat us, but wouldn't necessarily favour them to. Australia has had the wood on Lithuania lately and Id have us as reasonable favourites to beat them at full strength but that would be one hell of a game. Spain is getting old, I give Australia the edge there as well.

The Boomers are going to be in the mix for a top 8 placing among USA, France, Slovenia, Serbia, Spain, Lithuania and Canada, but I couldn't say any further than that. I think we have a team and play style that firmly puts us in the medal hunt but I would certainly have a bit of anxiety around any matchup with the above teams.

https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2023/draw#|tab=element_2_1
If the pots remain similar looking at this Philippines will be in group a as in Manila, USA c as play in Manila, Slovenia F as play in Japan, Canada G as play in Indonesia.

Wouldn't be shocked to see some Euro/American teams switch to even out geographically

Correct. If the pots remained the same as per original post there would end up being 3 European teams in multiple groups and no European teams in other groups, which will not happen. The 4 lowest ranked Euro nations will be placed in Pot 5.

'While I maintain a healthy respect for many of the teams in the world cup, it would surprise me greatly if Germany, Puerto Rico, DR, NZ, China, Japan or South Sudan were much more than a training run for a top tier Boomers team.'

These teams are very different now compared to the Tokyo Olympics or early wc qualifiers so I disagree that we can’t be beaten.

Looks like the boomers will have one of
American team Canada/Venezuela/Puerto Rico/Dominican Republic
European team Finland/Germany/Georgia/Latvia/Montenegro
African team Ivory Coast/South Sudan/Egypt/Cape Verde

I'd be happy with any of those opponents, B 91.

It would be really cool for Australia to play against South Sudan, given the many links the SS players have to Australia.

Best current guess while waiting on new rankings.
I have Latvia and Georgia switched from Pot 6 to Pot 5 swapping with NZ and Dom Rep to Balance regions
Canada being switched from Pot 4 to Pot 3 swapping with Germany to balance regions.
Ivory Coast moving in rankings to Pot 7 from Pot 8 and Lebanon dropping down to Pot 8.
Puerto Rico moving up to Pot 4 from Pot 5 and Iran dropping.

This would results in Boomers playing from Pot 8. Africa - Egypt, South Sudan or Cape Verde 1/3 chance. USA would get Lebanon.

From Pot 4. Germany, Venezuela, Montenegro, Puerto Rico. USA would draw either Germany or Montenegro. So higher odds of PR or Ven.

From Pot 5. Finland, Latvia, Georgia. 1/3 chance of each. Spain to get Iran.

Boomers then likely
Africa - Egypt, South Sudan or Cape Verde 1/3 chance
Finland, Latvia, Georgia. 1/3 chance of each.
Germany/Montenegro 1/3, Venezuela 1/3, Puerto Rico 1/3

For the NZ fans.
Pot 2 - France/Serbia/Slovenia/Lithuania
Pot 3 - Canada/Brazil
Pot 7 - Angola, Ivory Coast.
Drawing Canada from Pot 3 would make things very tough.

new rankings are out.
As predicted Ivory Coast moved up rankings to Pot 7 from Pot 8 and Lebanon dropping down to Pot 8.
Puerto Rico moved up to Pot 4 from Pot 5 with Iran dropping.

At least two Euro teams need to be swapped with 1 Asia and 1 Americas.

Typically that will be Latvia and Georgia switched from Pot 6 to Pot 5 swapping with NZ and Dom Rep to Balance regions.

The last possible switch would be with Germany swapping with Canada or Brazil. The euro teams would be split 5-7, but there isn't really a guide to say they need to be splits 6-6 into each half of the draw.

Pot 1: Philippines, Spain, USA, Australia
Pot 2: France, Serbia, Slovenia, Lithuania
Pot 3: Greece, Italy, Germany, Brazil
Pot 4: Canada, Venezuela, Montenegro, Puerto Rico
Pot 5: Iran, Dominican Republic, Finland, New Zealand
Pot 6: China, Latvia, Mexico, Georgia
Pot 7: Jordan, Japan, Angola, Cote D'Ivorie
Pot 8: Lebanon, Egypt, South Sudan, Cape Verde

Potential swaps
Italy/Germany with Canada/Venezuela
Cote D’Ivorie with Lebanon
Dominican Republic/NZ with Latvia/Georgia

With geographical principles taken into consideration the pots should end up looking like this:

Pot 1: Philippines, Spain, USA, Australia
Pot 2: France, Serbia, Slovenia, Lithuania
Pot 3: Greece, Italy, Germany, Brazil
Pot 4: Canada, Venezuela, Montenegro, Puerto Rico
Pot 5: Iran, Finland, New Zealand, Latvia
Pot 6: Dominican Republic, China, Mexico, Georgia
Pot 7: Jordan, Japan, Angola, Lebanon
Pot 8: Cote D'Ivorie, Egypt, South Sudan, Cape Verde

Lebanon will need to be in Pot 7 as there will not be a pool in the group phase featuring 2 Asian teams. Latvia will be moved to Pot 5 otherwise a pool would end up with 3 European teams.

USA guaranteed to be grouped with Montenegro. Either Australia or Spain will end up with Canada due to FIBA allocating Jakarta as host city for the Canadians, as USA and Philippines are already allocated to Manila from Pot 1.

Fiba redid the Draw to give the easier draw to Pot 2 the Euro teams.


Greece/Italy/Germany/Brazil
Dominican Republic / Finland / Iran
Angola / Ivory Coast /Japan

Fiba redid the Draw to give the easier draw to Pot 2 the Euro teams.

The first 50/50 is the location either Okinawa or Jakarta.

Group E - Okinawa
Australia - Greece/Italy/Germany - Dominican Rep/Finland - Japan -

or

Group G - Jakarta

Australia - Greece/Italy/Germany - Dominican Rep - Jordan (50% chance of this in Group G)
Australia - Greece/Italy/Germany - Finland - Jordan
Australia - Greece/Italy/Germany - Iran - Ivory Coast or Angola (lowest chance)

Iran likely to draw the USA if Australia is drawn into Group G
Spain and Brazil will be in the same Group.

If Australia gets Finland in Group G , then NZ would draw Spain/Brazil/Japan.

Hoping for jakarta, bit easier to get too

https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2023/news/the-fiba-basketball-world-cup-2023-draw-principles-explained

Seed 1 - Philippines, Spain, USA, Australia
Seed 2 - France, Serbia, Slovenia, Lithuania
Seed 3 - Greece, Italy, Germany, Brazil
Seed 4 - Canada, Venezuela, Montenegro, Puerto Rico
Seed 5 - Iran, Dominican Republic, Finland, New Zealand
Seed 6 - China, Latvia, Mexico, Georgia
Seed 7 - Jordan, Japan, Angola, Cote d'Ivoire
Seed 8 - Lebanon, Egypt, South Sudan, Cape Verde
1, 3, 5 & 7 together
2, 4, 6 & 8 together

Pool A (Manila): Philippines,
Pool B (Manila):
Pool C (Manila): USA,
Pool D (Manila):
Pool E (Okinawa): Japan
Pool F (Okinawa): Slovenia
Pool G (Jakarta):
Pool H (Jakarta): Canada

Boomers looking at either
Pot 3, Dominican Republic/Finland, Japan or
Pot 3, Dominican Republic/Finland/Iran and Jordan/Angola/Cote D'Ivorie if get Iran or not

Tall Blacks looking at either

Philippines, Pot 3, Angola
USA, Pot 3, Jordan
Spain, Pot 3, Japan

So we should top our group, but how do the crossovers work?

Top 2 cross with the other group in the area.
The Okinawa group likely be much easier 2nd round (Slovenia - plus one of Montenegro/Venezuela/Puerto Rico) than the Jakarta cross over (could be 1 of France/Serbia/Lithuania plus Canada as example)
Then need to top that next group to avoid USA in the semis.

Boomers off to Japan

Japan and Germany so far

RIP New Zealand

Finland also in our group.

And Finland mhmmmm

Geez Finland with Lauri, Germany and Japan in Japan....

Boomers drawn in game order

Finland
Germany
Japan

Top 2 teams Cross over against.

Slovenia, Venezuela, Georgia, Cape Verde


NZ drawn USA, Greece, Jordan

I stayed up late to watch the Tall Blacks get drawn with USA and Giannis.

Some frisky matchups for the Boomers in round 1. Should be straightforward vs Japan and Finland to qualify, though the need to avoid Slovenia in the round of 16 is high.

Meanwhile, I figured Pot A would be easy. But this easy? KAT's going to be looking to top the pool by himself under the DR.

Pot H looks the pot of death though - Canada, France, Latvia and Lebanon (who showed through Asian qualifiers that they’ll be a banana skin)

Pretty good group for us

Boomers draw is only okay. Could be worse and be in New Zealand's group or Canada’s group. Group D by far is the easiest. Boomers just need to avoid Slovenia in Round of 16. Japan we should beat but not sure what will get from Finland, Germany. We did beat Germany well at the Olympics from memory when Italy was also in group.

Bugger my typing is bad, I'm too tired guys lol!

Boomers draw is only okay

I'm going with, standings...

A - Italy should do it comfortably
Italy
DR
Phillipines
Angola

B - any team could top the group, serbia with the exp though
Serbia
South Sudan
China
Puerto Rico

C - tough group, nz at full strength are no pushovers
USA
Greece
NZ
Jordan

D - Lithuania have too much depth
Lithuania
Mexico
Montenegro
Egypt

E - one of the toughest groups, no easy beats
Australia
Germany
Japan
Finland

F - Slovenia should slaughter all teams
Slovenia
Georgia
Venezuela
Cape Verde

G - easy group for Spain
Spain
Brazil
Iran
Ivory Coast

H - Canada/France easily progress
Canada
France
Latvia
Lebanon



Next stage pool

I
Italy - advance
Serbia - advance
DR
South Sudan

J
USA - advance
Lithuania
Greece - advance
Mexico

K
Australia - advance
Slovenia
Germany - advance
Georgia

L
Spain
Canada - advance
Brazil
France - advance


1/4
Italy v Greece - Italy
Australia v France - Australia
USA vs Serbia - USA
Canada vs Germany - Canada


1/2
Italy vs Australia - Australia
USA vs Canada - USA


Bronze/4th
Italy vs Canada - Canada


Gold/Silver
Australia vs USA - TBD…

Now I realised Australia always get a tough draw. It's a joke some of the other groups. It’s silly how Australia don’t get to verse one team from Americas or even Africa. Strange we play Japan when Japan were in our qualifying tournament. Only reason we’re grouped together is because we’re Oceania not Asia but we still play in Asia for qualifying?

Whatever drugs you're taking Weedy Slug you need to share

Who's winning it seb? The Phillipines?

Australia draw is not that bad, Germany will hard, the other two should pose no problems.
USA will win it as usual, France and Australia should be right in the mix.

Lauri and Finland won't be easy

Germany definitely won’t be easy

Japan in Japan... not easy

Not an easy group for Australia but an even worse group for New Zealand!

Unfair on the pot 5 teams as pot 6 has a way easier draw and are lower ranked.

I am with Weedy Slug until about here:

"1/4
Italy v Greece - Italy
Australia v France - Australia
USA vs Serbia - USA
Canada vs Germany - Canada


1/2
Italy vs Australia - Australia
USA vs Canada - USA


Bronze/4th
Italy vs Canada - Canada


Gold/Silver
Australia vs USA - TBD..."


I can see France or Spain as our quarterfinal opponent and I am not so sure we beat either. We have some real issues inside and we are going to need to control the tempo of the game from the jump. IF we make it past the quarterfinals and somehow we did face Italy in the Semis, I would favour us to win that game.

If we made it to the Final against Team USA, I don't think the outcome is any more or less TBD than any other game you're speculating on. Barring a second-tier Team USA or a freakish game it is hard to imagine Australia beating the Americans in a World Cup Final I would pray for it. It would be one of the great moments of basketball history. But any sane betting man would put his money on USA.

from my limited following via TV screens of world championships - men or women - the host country with a home crowd and pride on the line - usually are a 10-20 point better team than usual.

I agree that Japan actually poses a big big risk.

Australia simply won't any easy opponent except perhaps Georgia if they proceed to the second round group.

But even then, if they want to progress further, they MUST beat Germany. They can’t leave it to beating Slovenia and hoping Germany does the same.

No breathing space, use their 12 man depth and win every game up to the final 4, it’s the only way for Australia really.

The beauty and horror of the world cup is that every team has ballers. There aren't too many teams I can look at at the cup and say with 100 percent certainly we would definitely beat them. There are probably 16 teams that can all beat eachother on their night with maybe USA (at full strength) standing above them. When we talk preferences within that group it is really an issue of a few degrees and a few points either way. We're not going to be handed a World Cup medal. This is going to be TOUGH. But at the same token I dont think any team is chuckling to themselves about facing us either. We're certified in world basketball now. You play Australia you know you're going to need your weetbix. This thing can't come soon enough. I just hope we have all our horses on board and we're ready to go. May the best teams win.

Australia can avoid the US until the Final, being in the top pot, yet everyone is still complaining. It's a relief not being doomed to facing them earlier.

Potential rosters

Germany
Schroder / Lo / Kramer
Obst / Weiler-Babb
FWagner / Giffey
MWagner / Thiemann
Theis / Voightman / Hartenstein


Japan
Togashi / Kawamura / Tanaka
Tominaga / Nishida
YWatanabe / Baba / Yoshii
Hachimura / Harimoto
Hawkinson / HWatanabe


Finland
Maxhuni / Kantonen
Salin / Koponen
Huff / Besselink / Palmi
Murphy / Jantunen / Valtonen
Markkannen / Madsen


10-11-12 man always tough to choose

My bad, kleber for thiemann

Australia should win this group, Germany will be tough, Finland and Japan by 20 at least.

Japan will not be easy at home.

Predictions:

Group Stage:
Group A : Italy & Dominicana
Group B : Serbia & South Sudan
Group C : USA & Greece
Group D : Lithuania & Montenegro
Group E : Australia & Germany
Group F - Slovenia & Venezuela
Group G - Spain & Brazil
Group H - France & Canada

2nd Round
Group I: Serbia & Italy
Group J : USA & Lithuania
Group K : Slovenia & Australia
Group L: France & Spain/Canada

Quarters
Serbia v Lithuania- Serbia
Slovenia v Spain/Canada - Slovenia
USA vs Italy - USA
France vs Austrailia- France


Semis
Serbia vs Slovenia - Serbia
USA vs France - USA


Bronze
Slovenia vs France - France


Gold
Serbia vs USA - USA

Basically we need to not drop a beat. No losses allowed.

Lose to Germany or Slovenia and that's our cup done because I don’t think we are beating France.

They are gradually moving into USA territory

Stevy's prediction assumes we lose to Slovenia but I think we'd beat them. Doncic may go for 50 but I think our athletic wings would really trouble them and they haven't got enough going on inside to exploit us. They're going to be out for blood after the bronze medal loss and we're not going to get an undercooked Doncic again. But if I were a betting man, i'd say Australia. If we win our first 5 games we set ourselves up for a Canada-Spain quarters and Serbia-Lithuania semis, all tough match ups but would give us a 'fair' shot at a gold medal game.

I do agree though, France and USA are the teams to avoid. I think we 'can' beat France (or a undermanned USA) but France scares me with their size. Embiid apparently not playing the cup for them, and just as well.

Yeah 2024 Olympics France squad with Embiid and Victor would be brutal to play against

Spain although have been mighty successful for sometime, they are in transition.
This 2-3 year period will be tough for them before the new crop comes online and they become a superpower once again.


Current depth chart has them,
good but not invincible.

Rubio / Llull / JFernandez / Diaz / Nunez
Brown / Abrines / RFernández / Brizuela / Yusta
Parra / Arostegui / Abalde / Barreiro / Salvo
Mirotic / Aldama / Garuba / Perez / Claver / Pradilla
Hernangomez / Saiz / Hernangomez / Guerra / Sima

Embiid apparently not playing the cup for them, and just as well.

Cameroon would be good if they all got together.
$$$ talks though.

It's glory hunting for a medal rather than money.

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No one is offering dress smock deals in Cameroon.

The question will be how they play as a team. They've got the runs on the board to say theyre going to play well but it's not always easy to incorporate new talent.

We have the same question for the Boomers - consider the team is likely to bring in Giddey, slot Green into a bigger role, potentially Daniels, may lose Delly, a potentially new big man rotation outside of Landale (assuming they dont drag Baynes along).

The Boomers team that take the floor on August 25 are not an entirely known quantity. They'll work well together due to the culture and great attitudes but its wrong to assume we know how the team will look. We will most definitely have the most wing talent and athleticism we've ever seen, though.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of Thon Maker, Keanu Pinder or Jack White make the team, for their size, athleticism and mobility. We haven't got much inside but we're going to have to take a big, mobile body.

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No one is offering dress smock deals in Cameroon.

There's no easy wins in this group. We'll have to be top of our game just to make sure we advance. Yes we'll be favourites in the group but there's match winners on all those teams that cause an upset or two.

Apart from Giddey, and possibly Green and Ingles, none of the likely Boomers is a regular starter on their team. In other words, they come off the bench under certain circumstances, do their best to force their way into the rotation given limited minutes, and generally aren't the guys the team relies on to carry them to the win.

Mills really stood up last campaign, and we medaled against a team depending on a weakened Doncic.

Generally we achieve good results because we play as a TEAM rather than as a bunch of stars thrown together. I’m hoping that that trend continues - that we continue to play as a TEAM rather than start playing NBA-style ball built around a few NBA or Euro superstars.