Dunkman
Two years ago

JJs v Breakers

Looking forward to this one, should be a good physical contest with smart structures and coaches. Breakers have done excellent so far this season, I just can't see the JJs losing this though. JJs by six.

Hopefully the refs don’t call stupid rubbish, like delay off game after whistle blown and shot taken or any soft fouls and flops, let them play.

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Dunkman  
Two years ago

Games at the silver dome, so smaller vocal crowd, Kenyon out, Magnay and Steindl in.

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Anonymightymouse  
Two years ago

Doyle and Weeks out too?

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Scout  
Two years ago

Doyle, Kenyon and Weeks all out for JJs, Magnay and Stiendl in.

Shockin run of injuries

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Jimmyhooper15  
Two years ago

The breakfast getting a raw deal

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Jimmyhooper15  
Two years ago

Breakers

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Dunkman  
Two years ago

Some of the worst calls against the breakers already. These are not fouls, the refs are rubbish.

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Knowall  
Two years ago

Home cooking already, but if they didn't could have been a blow out. Can’t do that to the fans

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Jacket  
Two years ago

Foul, foul, foul, foul, foul, foul
No wonder the WBBL DESTROYS the NBL in TV ratings.
What an absolutely garbage comp

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Jimmyhooper15  
Two years ago

Breakers are very impressive

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Jacket  
Two years ago

15 fouls in 10 minutes of basketball

LOL

Entertainment

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Kolzee  
Two years ago

Can't understand why Brantley's minutes are so limited. When he's on he's good at both ends and can cover 3/4/5 at a stretch. Is it a fitness thing?

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Dunkman  
Two years ago

I'm a great fan of the nbl but some of these calls are embarrassing. JJs have been to Gouldings acting school.

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Screeningnick  
Two years ago

These refs are fucking atrocious. Not to mention single handedly got JJ's back into the game.

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Screeningnick  
Two years ago

Leafa, Brantley, Brown all with 3 fouls before half time. These refs need to be fired at halftime.

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Dunkman  
Two years ago

Yes it's very disappointing, I thought JJs should win this but refs have made certain of it, atrocious is a very fair call.

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Jacket  
Two years ago

Tim Donaghy a number of years ago got caught gambling in games he officiated in for years.
The FBI only stumbled across his dodgy activities by pure fluke as they were investigating the mafia.

The NBA never caught Donaghy even with all there resources and if the FBI did not catch Donaghy by chance he would have gotten away with it

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Dunkman  
Two years ago

Leafa, Brantley, Pardon and Brown all on three fouls at the half.

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Anon  
Two years ago

Ref's were calling bad fouls drom out of position and again tonight, Maor literally screaming how can you call the hands foul from behind!! He's bloody right too

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Screeningnick  
Two years ago

No hyperbole these refs need to be investigated for not if, but how much money they have on JJ's

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Ben  
Two years ago

Maggette should have been given a tech foul for that flop. Fucking joke, lol.

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Dunkman  
Two years ago

Goulding would be embarrassed by the flopping from JJs tonight. That young ref is so bad. I've always loved the JJs tough play but tonight acting has got me off them.

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Dunkman  
Two years ago

Breakers hanging tough. WMW really holding them together.

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Bullets  
Two years ago

Agree 100%, the officiating so far
has been atrocious

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Jacket  
Two years ago

LOL tell me something untoward is not happening here.
I reckon whenever there is money involved, there will ALWAYS be greed and corruption around it.
The lid needs to be blown off it.

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Screeningnick  
Two years ago

Refs did absolutely everything they could but Breakers were too good.

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DR  
Two years ago

Magney 14 minutes 5 fouls 2 blocks hype

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Screeningnick  
Two years ago

Love Scott Roth for giving it to his own crowd for being ferals

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Ben  
Two years ago

Love the waving to the crowd after the game. Don't have a horse in the race but kinda glad NZ won.

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Jack Knife  
Two years ago

Great win by the breakers...up against the JJs and everyone else…

Magette continues to show his class

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SP  
Two years ago

Josh Magette constantly trying to start things is hilarious, especially on a night where he's really stunk it up.

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Dunkman  
Two years ago

Refs evened it up in the last quarter. Glad to see breakers get up as they were better team in spite of the first quarter foul barrage.
McVeigh been quiet for JJs recently, not enough ball going to him. Kenyon big out for JJs.

Refs made a rod on there back by calling so much non fouls early.

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Jacket  
Two years ago

In 40 minutes, there were 48 fouls called with 57 free throws attempted.
No wonder the TV ratings in this league are abysmal.
Even the WBBL kills the NBL in TV ratings LOL
You call this entertainment?

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Kolzee  
Two years ago

Ref's impacted the game way too much but despite this a pretty good game. JJs need to find a way to score when magettes 3s not sinking and mcveigh not scoring. Not sure how but breakers just keep finding ways to score. Even leafa who didn't look good earlier in the season

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EssenX  
Two years ago

I am really surprised the Breakers won that. 4/5 players were on 4 fouls late in the game. To win in those circumstances takes a lot of character. This Breakers team is finals bound.

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Bullets  
Two years ago

Pardon was outstanding.
The Breakers have had some good early season wins, but this game confirmed it... they are really good.

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Crackers65  
Two years ago

Magna needs to improve real quick.

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JMS  
Two years ago

Thought Pardon was very impressive, they ran some great plays down low for him and he's very aggressive on the boards. Magette is a great point guard but hard to like when he continually throws the head back with any type of contact. Breakers are a great team to watch as an impartial, really well structured lineup, play as a team and look to have developed a great culture again.

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Kolzee  
Two years ago

I don't think they can beat the kings but these breakers are hard to beat cos someone always seems to step up when required... and their defence is suffocating

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EssenX  
Two years ago

The Kings have a lot of firepower and are the clear number 1 then daylight. Sunday's 36ers v Breakers will be interesting, if the Breakers win that then they’re the clear number 2 this season.

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Jimmyhooper15  
Two years ago

Time to label the breakers as a legit contender

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Anonymightymouse  
Two years ago

A hard watch, the players just committing so many fouls. The refs were trying to call it somewhere close to the rule book but we're seven weeks in and the players are so used to getting away with foul after foul now, it's hard to bring it back. Call it by the book in the pre-season and early rounds and the teams adjust and you get good basketball. Trying to chance it mid-season is classic NBL.

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Perthworld  
Two years ago

The Kings have a lot of firepower and are the clear number 1 then daylight. Sunday's 36ers v Breakers will be interesting, if the Breakers win that then they're the clear number 2 this season.

Let's hope so because everyone else stinks.

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Dunkman  
Two years ago

Half the fouls weren't there, refs got stop falling for the flops.

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JMS  
Two years ago

The slight moving screen being called as offensive foul is annoying and seems to be a constant call in the NBL, just let them play. Let the defender push through the contact, as long as it isn't a heavy hit (eg Wagstaff).

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Mystro  
Two years ago

Stoked to get another road win.
Hopefully the Breakers can back it up against Adelaide in Auckland

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LAKingsKempe  
Two years ago

Magette flop and then refs upgrade the foul. Game looked rigged. Felt like Breakers were down 5 and would have been up 15 if not for refs. They call it more even for a bit and Breakers go from 5 down to 9 up. Breakers did great to win.

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Anonymightymouse  
Two years ago

If NZ and Tassie are going to commit so many fouls they can't complain when the refs call them. There could have been another 100 fouls called last night.

The NBL started the season on track to call the fewest fouls as far back as records go. They made their bed by allowing so many fouls to go uncalled, now if they try to claw it back it results in a foul-fest.

You've got to set the standard in pre-season so everyone knows what's going on, then you get much better basketball and not the inconsistent officiating the NBL is known for.

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Dunkman  
Two years ago

Nbl refs get sucked in by head jerks, flops, not all contact is a foul, it's not netball. One of the breakers bigs pushed off from Magnay to clear space, Magnay was on the floor so quick it like he’d been shot, ref fell for it. They teach you from under 12 to push off to clear space. Refs got have feel and understanding of the game.

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Sebastian  
Two years ago

Just because they teach it doesn't mean it’s legal. Just like bumping the cutter. Coaches teach it but it’s illegal, just as pushing off to clear space is illegal

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Anonymightymouse  
Two years ago

Spot on Seb. It was great in NBL19 and NBL20 when the league refereed freedom of movement like other top leagues around the world do, the basketball on show was super entertaining as players could execute their skills.

Allowing players to just climb up and in just creates scraps and means players and coaches have no idea what is and isn't a foul, because there is foul after foul not being called, then bang one gets plucked out.

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Dunkman  
Two years ago

It's only called in the nbl, go watch other competitions, it’s partly the reason all imports struggle so much when they get to Australia.

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Anonymightymouse  
Two years ago

Sorry if my comment wasn't clear. Getting up-and-in is not called in the NBL, whereas the other top leagues around the world enforce the offensive players cyclinder.

In the NBL a high level of those fouls are let go, that's why you see the scrappiness that you don't get in the NBA or Euroleague regular seasons. That allows for a lot more clean offensive basketball.

That was obviously reinforced by the recent comments from Rayjon Tucker, to go along with those by Jae-Sean Tate and Eddie Gill and Jamar Wilson and many other imports who have played around the world.

For a comparison, look at Ben Simmons' sixth foul on Ja Morant (I'm pretty sure it was him) the other week. If that contact was called in the NBL there would be 200 fouls per game!

Now when it comes to body fouls at the basket with charges and blocked shots etc, that's where things get soft in the NBL compared to other top leagues. We have it arse-about. Allow the contact that makes things scrappy, but don't allow contact in the areas where it allows spectacular plays.

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Dunkman  
Two years ago


Now when it comes to body fouls at the basket with charges and blocked shots etc, that's where things get soft in the NBL compared to other top leagues. We have it arse-about. Allow the contact that makes things scrappy, but don't allow contact in the areas where it allows spectacular plays.

Agree 100%. Well explained.

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Anonymightymouse  
Two years ago

Cheers mate. It's bloody frustrating. Give offensive players space to make plays, give defenders the chance to contest, and stop rewarding blokes who feel contact and flop like a Chris Goulding imitation artist.

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hoopie  
Two years ago

Agree, and I'd add to protect guys in the air - some of the times guys were crunched while doing layups was just plain brutal and it amazes me that nobody has been seriously injured so far.

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Perthworld  
Two years ago

Brad Hill disagrees with you.

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Perthworld  
Two years ago

https://youtu.be/EkqCDfPcPEY

The NBL never learns.

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Perthworld  
Two years ago

It was great in NBL19 and NBL20 when the league refereed freedom of movement like other top leagues around the world do, the basketball on show was super entertaining as players could execute their skills.

Absolutely and the NBL finally reached a point where the LK revolution had turned it into an amazing product.

Post-COVID it has returned to the sludgeball of old.

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