Any word on the teams China and Japan are bringing?

Are they bringing their A teams?

Have to appreciate the efforts made to carry over Boomers culture to every new player that touches it. Players come and go but culture is the thing great teams can always turn to to make any group bigger than the sum of their parts. The transition of this Boomers team from the Bogut-Baynes-Delly-Mills-Ingles core to what will likely be the Giddey-Daniels-Exum (Simmons?) and co core so far appears seamless and will keep us in the hunt well into the future.

https://t.co/1zPUuuFwlX The squads for each team

If we get everyone for WC or Paris will it be our best team yet?

Giddey
Daniels
Thybulle
Simmons
Landale
Mills
Exum
Green
Ingles
Kay

A lot depends on how the young guys pan out.

Easily most talented, Green n Giddey more seasoned, adding Daniels to the group...

Simmons shouldn't be on the list...

It simmons is not available, who replaced him on that list?

Keanue Pinder?
Jack White?

If ^

People are wasting time considering Simmons. Move on. Boomers are fine without him. Same with NZ and Adams; the I might, I'm thinking about it, and then pulling out last minute and trashing the team and/or organisation having just wasted their time and effort over the past 12-18 is unnecessary distraction. If the Boomers had Bogut and/or Baynes doesn’t get injured, and maybe a Giddey/Daniels the way they are now, then Boomers were not far from gold. Simmons is surplus to requirements.

I don't think we will ever see Simmons in a Boomers jersey again, not unless there is a major attitude shift.

Trying to pick a 12 so far out is pointless anyway.

I think for the next 5-10 years our back court is looking great. Giddey, Green, Daniels, Thybulle, Exum is a good new core if healthy and available.

The bigs are less straightforward. There's clearly plenty of good players there with Landale, Kay, the Makers, etc. But are any really guys that you can look at and say "they're a lock to be in the squad (not even final team) for the next few cycles? I think we're gonna rely a lot more on who's in form for those spots and hope guys can come in and surprise like Kay did.

@Screeningnick

China is bringing the best players that they can, while Japan is bringing a young team with veterans (which makes sense since they are already qualified).

For the Boomers in 2023 and 2024, I see these guys as locks (my opinion)

Giddey
Mills
Landale
Reath
Ingles
Daniels
Exum
Kay
Thybulle
Green

Leaving 2 spots left.

Maybe:
Cooks
Acuil
Baynes?
Humphries
Magnay
Proctor
Travers
Thon Maker

"If we get everyone for WC or Paris will it be our best team yet?

Giddey
Daniels
Thybulle
Simmons
Landale
Mills
Exum
Green
Ingles
Kay
"

We have a lot of wings that are extremely athletic, great defenders but cant shoot the three. Something is going to have to give in that line up.
As for will it be our best team yet? Potentially, but I see a big glaring weakness inside and out the three point line. It's a team that is begging for a healthy Aron Baynes and a replacement for Ryan Broekhoff (or THE Broekhoff if he learns to play basketball again).

"It simmons is not available, who replaced him on that list?

Keanue Pinder?
Jack White?"

Thon Maker or Xavier Cooks would have to get a real look.

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This is the Chinese team
Fu Hao, Zhao Jiwei, Guo Ailun, Zhu Junlong, Sun Minghui, Wang Zhelin, Ren Junwei, Wu Qian, Zhao Rui, Xu Jie, Hu Mingxuan, Shen Zijie, Gu Quan, Fan Ziming, Abudushalamu Abudurexiti, Zhou Qi
By virtue of knowing some of the names I can say it's probably some of their best

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"For the Boomers in 2023 and 2024, I see these guys as locks (my opinion)

Giddey
Mills
Landale
Reath
Ingles
Daniels
Exum
Kay
Thybulle
Green

Leaving 2 spots left.

Maybe:
Cooks
Acuil
Baynes?
Humphries
Magnay
Proctor
Travers
Thon Maker"

Aron Baynes is definitely still a question mark and on paper, if healthy, would be just the kind of player the team needs. Mangok Mathiang was an NBA player not that long ago and has the size and athleticism.

I also wouldn't cpunt out a spot for Rocco Zikarsky. Yeah, he's 16 but will be 18ish by the time the next Olympics roll around. He's 7'2 - Made the All Star 5 for the Emus at the Asia Cup. Andrew Bogut was a similar age and on a similar trajectory. Early days but given his size and mobility - from what I've seen - he's a name to remember.

Me: "Thon Maker or Xavier Cooks would have to get a real look"


I agree, on the basis of Maker's availability and willingness.
Re Cooks, he would seamlessly fill any role offered him on the team

I do believe that both Pinder and White both have great potential to improve more and be morergan capable of playing valuable minutes for the boomers at a major tournament should the opportunity be presented to either of them.

Pinder and White have the potential to Nick Kay themselves into contention, with Pinder having the clear athletic advantage. If either of them can develop a consistent three point stroke then they'd really be knocking on the door.

Pindar had a great year but is a long way behind Jack White in terms of boomer contention

Zikarsky, cmon dude, he will struggle to make the 27 WC and 28 Olympics at 21/22.


Certainly a deep pool building
Just 1995 onwards

Giddey-Exum-MCdowellWhite-Armstrong-Bayles-Duach
Daniels-Green-Vasljevic-Glover-Proctor-King-Antonio
Thybulle-Travers-Kuol-Noi-Galloway-Mayen-Grida-Ducas
Simmons-Cooks-White-Mcveigh-Galloway-Maker-Okwera
Landale-Reath-Maker-Pinder-Magnay-Humphries-Froling-Hunter-Gak

Missed probably a few..

I'd think white is a 4/3 and Pinder a 5/4

Forgot kuol has decided to play for South Sudan...

Pinder a Boomer? You can't be serious.

"Zikarsky, cmon dude, he will struggle to make the 27 WC and 28 Olympics at 21/22"

I'm with ME on this one.

Rocco is developing nicely. I've pretty much watched all of his games.

7'2, runs the floor well, is athletic, great touch around the basket, timing on his blocked shots is elite.

Considering he hasn't even turned 16 yet, I see him easily being drafted at 19/20 years of age.

He has a bit of agro to him too, he certainly doesn't lack confidence.

May be too early for Paris Olympics but don't rule him out for the WC or Olympics after that.

a 20 year old centre in 2027 will overtake Landale, Reath, Maker, Magnay, Humphries, Froling, Pinder, Hunter etc

Landale and Reath are the 2 currently at the top, Landale 32 and Reath 31 (prime) in 2027.
Even if Zikarsky is drafted after 1 year as a ns in the nbl, I don't see him making it as a boomer in his first year nba player, if... he makes it.

Made even harder that the 2005/2006 centre nba prospects worldwide is very very deep.
Just from this u17 upcoming WC, these aren’t just big players but highly touted.

Zikarsky 7’2 06 AUS
Rioux 7’6 06 CAN
Malasevic 7’2 05 SER
Mara 7’3 05 SPA
Sarr 7’0 05 FRA
EvansIII 7’1 05 USA

Doesn’t include any other top prospect outside of WC. (Euros, africa, ncaa)
4 in Africa alone on future mock drafts.

Zikarsky is up against 10+ guys in same draft class just as tall and just as talented.

Sorry, gacic was the Serbian prospect not malasevic

Rioux 7'6 06 CAN
Malasevic 7’2 05 SER
Mara 7’3 05 SPA
Sarr 7’0 05 FRA
EvansIII 7’1 05 USA

Great to see he will be up against some genuine size.

Looking forward to seeing how Rocco goes

lol at people predicting if a 16 year old will be ready for 2027 tournament...

does playing in the nba automatically make u a Boomer?

Atm it does

Only on hoops.com.au. In real life, no.

Bogut was an Olympian at 20 and it was his very first Boomers role. I dont find it unthinkable Zikarsky could do the same. He's the exact type of player the new generation lacks - a genuine big man

That was 17 years ago...
We had little depth in the squad in the big man department.

Do we have much depth there now? I am not seeing a Bogut or Baynes type replacement in anyone else. And if nothing else Rocco appears to have that kind of body type. We were lucky last Olympics not to have been sat with a France or Spain.

The same body type, you must be joking...

Hes a fairly physically big kid for his age, look at the width of his shoulders. You can put a good amount of muscle on him

2 brick shite houses over 260 pounds vs a string bean 7'2 kid.

So yeah, as per the title, I'm keen to see how Delly goes.
Nothing but admiration for his continued willingness to rep the green and gold at every opportunity.
The pick n roll with Maker should be a go to throughout the series

I'm looking forward to an aggressive McVeigh with potential for some big numbers with his self confident shot-making.

The biggest unknown will be chemistry given the short prep time, but we can expect high level intensity and application on the back of the high standards set by the group in Tokyo

They have been together for ten days, bevo had two days in Japan in February. Preparation time isn't an issue.
I’m expecting a easy wins.

Maybe, but I don't think China will be a walk over

Hey just wondering if anyone knows if these games will be available to watch online anywhere? Cheers

ESPN will become the new broadcast home of international basketball for the next four years, having agreed to an exclusive partnership with FIBA, the International Basketball Federation.

The Boomers' upcoming FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 qualification series against China and Japan will also be live on June 30, July 1 and July 3.

"2 brick shite houses over 260 pounds vs a string bean 7'2 kid."

Go find footage of them at the same age

Just having a look on Kayo and they've only listed the first game.

Australia vs China 30th June @ 4.30pm

Not sure if that is AEST or WA time, mines set to WA so assume it's WA time.

Japanese side same as the February team, no nba guys I'm hearing, if correct it should be easy win.
China will be tougher but again should not cause problems.

Tipoff is 6:30PM EST.

Remember when Luke Schenscher was gonna be the next great Aussie big?

Is Green such a lock for future teams? I haven't seen much of him in the NBA. He only just made the team over Giddey in Tokyo as Goorjian's young player selection. He didn't show any sort of perimeter shot, just some decent D and athleticism. I'm just not sure if that skillset is enough to make the team as a lock when you already have players like Thybulle and Daniels and our main shooting wing player, Ingles, is not guaranteed to be available.

one thing is clear with many of the names mentioned. For the long-term sustainability of the Boomers program, we need to keep the NBL Roots program going:

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/sports/nbl-grassroots-program-mostly-based-around-encouraging-american-players-to-have-kids-here/

Yes, green is a lock atm. No doubt about it.

If Thybulle doesn't get approval, could be...

Giddey-Exum
Mills-Cotton-Green
Ingles-Daniels
Simmons-Kay-Cooks
Landale-Reath

Ingles is on borrowed time and we have no idea what’s happening with Baynes




all defense lineup

PG Exum
SG Daniels
SF Thybulle
PF Kay or Cooks
C Simmons

". I'm just not sure if that skillset is enough to make the team as a lock when you already have players like Thybulle and Daniels and our main shooting wing player, Ingles, is not guaranteed to be available."

Yeah something has to give. Green, Thybulle and Daniels all give a lot of the same things. I am not sure you can take all three and succeed in FIBA basketball. Defensively excellent but if you cant make open threes you're going to have a problem. Issue is even more stark IF (big IF) Ben Simmons gets involved.

"If Thybulle doesn't get approval, could be...

Giddey-Exum
Mills-Cotton-Green
Ingles-Daniels
Simmons-Kay-Cooks
Landale-Reath
"

That would probably be a more balanced line up than one with Thybulle in it. I am not sure I put Reath over JLA or Thon Maker just yet though. Big question marks inside which can only be answered with Simmons. Take Simmons out of that line up and I dont see us competing with France, Spain, and the bigger teams in the tournament. Aron Baynes almost becomes a necessity. We were lucky with our draw in Tokyo. I am not sure we medal had we been on the other side of things. Thats not to take anything away from the team - the Boomers deserved some good luck after decades of disappointment. But we did get some luck. Every medalling team generally does. But we cant go thinking we've got things covered inside just because we managed to make it work last time.

Yeah bigs and shooting is fast becoming our weakness which is crazy because they've always been our strengths. From Bradtke > Bogut > Baynes inside and Gaze > Heal > Patty/Ingles as shooters.

We're kind of at risk of becoming what the old USA teams were, just without the overall talent.

Yep. Some great players are going to have to miss out on spots to make way for role players who arent as talented but provide attributes the core lacks. I think Goorjian will be wise enough that he makes those tough decisions, gladly. Its the kind of thing that unfortunately sees the Cam Gliddons and Nathan Sobeys of the world on the plane. It's a necessary evil unfortunately. I really don't think you can have Thybulle, Daniels and Green on the same team unless one or more of them learns how to shoot. If you do get Simmons I'd almost lean towards putting Cotton on the team because of the extra need for a shooter.

one thing is clear with many of the names mentioned. For the long-term sustainability of the Boomers program, we need to keep the NBL Roots program going:

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/sports/nbl-grassroots-program-mostly-based-around-encouraging-american-players-to-have-kids-here/