Anonymous
Two years ago
2022 Fiba rankings with new system.
Australia doing pretty good for a country of our size.
Now as of February 22
#3 Men (Boomers)
#3 Women (Opals)
#8 Boys (Crocs/Emus)
#2 Girls (Sapphires/Gems)
I will add that given how poor the opals have been over 3 years the next up date won't see us as #3 but more likely #5-#7
ME
(he/kangaroo)
Two years ago
Opals havent been good for a long time so it's a surprise they sit third.
They won silver in 2018 WC but after that only won 60% of games which is beyond terrible.
Record since 2017 HCs (Brondello, Chambers-asia, Goriss-asia)
39 games
26 wins 66.6%
13 losses 33.3%
Brondello record as HC since takeover
27 games
17 wins 63%
10 losses 37%
All other coaches from 2000 won 85%-95%
Cram
Two years ago
Yes we know. You post it every time anything comes up about the Opals.
Surely brondellos last chance. No 24 Olympics if she fails this year.
#517 just making sure people know. Jobs for mates is not ok with me.
SixersFan
Two years ago
"Brondello record as HC since takeover
27 games
17 wins 63%
10 losses 37%"
Of those 10 losses, how many games did they have Cambage? Context is important. Even though we all hate Cambage she would make a huge difference. If the previous teams didn't have Lauren Jackson it would be a similar win/loss % record.
15 out of the 27 games without Cambage.
Teams we lost to without Liz
China, Japan, Belgium, USA
Lost with Liz
China, Japan, France, USA
Multiple losses to both China and Japan 4+ times each.
With or without Liz aint the problem, it's team defense.
Bol
Two years ago
Liz wont be playing for the Opals again so we'd better get used to it
Perthworld
Two years ago
#517 just making sure people know. Jobs for mates is not ok with me.
For sure, we need to forget Liz
hopefully sandy has learnt from the Tokyo debacle but by the looks of the lineup she played France yesterday, she's still very much set in her ways.
Just look at the coaching lineup
Head Coach Sandy Brondello
Assistant Coach Paul Goriss
Assistant Coach Cheryl Chambers
Assistant Coach Olaf Lange
Physiotherapist Gaylene McKay
Massage Therapist Katrina Bourke
Trainer Brent Goriss
Head of Delegation Michele Menso
Head of Team Operations Trish Dykstra
High Performance Manager Jan Stirling
Jobs for husbands, brothers, past opals, best mates etc etc
koberulz
Two years ago
So what's actually different about the ranking system? Or is that not as important as having another "whine about Sandy Brondello" thread?
It's a game by game ranking system and the different regions points systems have changed. Asia is worth more than before, Americas less.
https://www.fiba.basketball/documents/rankinggirls/howitworks
https://www.fiba.basketball/documents/rankingboys/howitworks
Winning in asia means less for the boys than the girls
Girls winning u16 or u18 in asia is almost double the points if the boys were to win.
.45 for boys is rough compared to .8 girls.
Narendra
Two years ago
" australia doing pretty well for a country for our size" - I've never really understood the "country size" argument at all it's beyond stupid in this day and age, australia is a first world country and have a strong overall sporting culture with great facilities and infra for the most part, not to mention , a healthy immigration rate ( just look at the number of australian-american players coming up thru the ranks in the mens team ) . so obv australia will be decent at sports. Heck if anything, beyond a certain point, population size can become a huge headache, since it drastically brings down gdp per capita as resources need to be shared between more people...
Yeah that is why the USA sucks so badly at sport.
Narendra
Two years ago
Lmao, so your counterargument to disprove my theory is using another filthy rich, first world country with one of, if not the strongest sporting cultures in the world?? You're not exactly the smartest tool in the shed are you?
John
Two years ago
Does Narendra just hate Australia or the Boomers or...?
Just loves to crap on anything related to the national team.
Narendra
Two years ago
Hey john, have you found out if you have balls yet or do you still need my help?
"So what's actually different about the ranking system?" What you don't know and can't tell us?
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