Congratulations and welcome aboard. Have fun!

Albury-Wodonga Bandits
Bankstown Bruins
Canberra Gunners
Central Coast Crusaders
Hills Hornets
Illawarra Hawks
Inner West Bulls
Maitland Mustangs
Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles
Newcastle
Norths Bears
Sutherland Sharks

The whole NBL1 comp is really starting to come together. Good to see!

Where will the COE Men's team be playing?

RE;
1. "It hasn't started yet, time will tell if it works, most nsw clubs don't pay players and have been of poor standard. If it stays as was with new name, nothing has changed, it’s gone fro shit sandwich to shit bread roll."
And
2. "It wont be good if it is just rebranded Waratah and the standard stays the same. They will get embarrassed at the national tournament if the standard is the same."

Don't get down-hearted! Think the feelings were similar in Qld. Can't explain how, but definitely a better, forward-thinking
outlook, round the league now. NBL1 is now (indisputably) the 2nd tier. Sorta like NBL Jnr on a pension.

There is also the intangible feeling that we are now part of a National comp (even though we aren't playing nationally), and that our conference Champion will go up against the nation's other conference Champions, including yours, at season's end, to decide a National Champion. That all starts next year or one after(?). Now that you're in, it can be truely national.

Without changing, everything seems to be better.

Lol

Thank you, On behalf of Queensland basketball. SEABL was also a (the) top state (Vic, Tas & SA) league and I am sure that southerners feel much the same as I do. No matter how good now, will get better.

No Hornsby either.Coffs Harbour would never have been a consideration.
Cost to be involved is expensive and if you do not have sponsorship there will be no imports etc.

The level of the league will not be great.will be the same as Waratah previously has been so the comment above about National playoff section is true

Interesting that there is a criteria that Associations were advised of that they have to meet to be involved and there are probably half OF them do not meet the critieria yet they have been accepted by BNSW.

Inner West Bulls are financed by the owner of Illawarra yet they are the biggest offenders of not meeting the criteria.

Will be interesting to see how it all goes,Unfortunately think it will be a possible flop.

re: "They prefer to put their money back into their own programs and teams. Sensible."

What programs and teams? They all pay for themselves. Programs like junior-development programs? The junior's family pays for that. Senior development programs? The seniors pays for that, too. But why would they, no senior rep teams, just domestic

By, "own programs and teams(1)", aren't their Waratah League/NBL1 teams their, "own programs and teams"?

By, "own programs and teams(2)", do you mean for their juniors? What pathway(s) do they have for their juniors who want one, or do they aspire to make it to their own a, b and c grade domestic comp, their own programs? And how much would their senior, domestic cost? Nothing, the players pay for that too. Court rental? No, all in the game fees.

Let me ask, and I honestly don't know, how are your juniors doing? My guess is, with no association NBL1 team to aim for, not too well! So you would have to "buy" a team to be competitive. That is not sensible. Developing them, is.

Our NBL1 men's team consists of 3 local seniors who are the core, an import back for a 2nd stint, an NBL player (not a restricted one) and a couple of seniors who liked it here and decided to play for us. Rest of our team are our juniors. Doesn't have to cost the earth and so f%&king worthwhile. We (Queenslanders) also have a second-tier comp, the QSL (Queensland State League) with teams full of current and ex-juniors waiting for a chance at the next level. And ours is the newer club in our region. The "other" club have 8 local seniors and a quite a few more who are not playing (work/family commits etc.) but who could walk into their own, our, or any other team, if they wanted to play.

If your association/club spends its money on their "own programs and teams", what have they got to show for it? Anything?

Admirable that you cater for people who just want to play. What happens to those who may/will want more. How do you cater to those who want to go for it! Tell them that they should go to another local assoc. where they do that sort of (yuk) thing ?

Final question (for the moment). Your social players and your junior rep and domestic players all pay fees to your association. If you're not spending on "Senior Rep Teams" (NBL1 and other state league teams) what are you spending it on to satisfy your membership? You don't need coaches, development officers, qualified referees, score bench officials, player uniforms, after-game functions, travel & accommodation, for domestic games, as you don't have senior representative teams. Where does your money go then? Not into pockets, I'm sure. Where does it go?

Money is a factor, absolutely, and for us to be truly competitive, nationally, we will have to spend more, too. I often used to think, "With their NBL-type budgets compared to ours, how are we going to compete with the South conference?". We will. However, we will have to become the best in our own conference before we get tested in nationals.

Your challenge is no greater than ours, if you have the desire. If not, why are you still reading this tripe?

Comets have had great success in their boys junior program the last 10 years, and have some extremely talented young players who have recently stepped up to seniors. I doubt the best of them stick around to play division 2.

Same principle applies to Penrith and Hornsby. The lack of a pathway could also have an impact on their juniors.

At least Hornsby have stated they will enter in 2023, but how many players will they lose in the interim?

"At least Hornsby have stated they will enter in 2023, but how many players will they lose in the interim?"
Hey, they may come back when your senior/NBL1 programs are up and running. Dave Anderson plays for Frankston in South, Mitch McCarron for Northside and Harrison Froling in Cairns in North and plenty of others I'm sure.

"Harrison Froling in Cairns"

*Townsville.