Tell me more

Don't think so?

Hounddog, sorry, Peter C isn't their GM but does now work for Sth Pen and coaches their women's team.

Chelsea's new GM was not the GM at SP. She was however, along with a few others, a major reason SP improved so much over the last 5-6 years (pre-covid).

Great pick up for Chelsea.

So who is the new GM at Chelsea.does anyone know of player movements in big v for next season

1 of Chelsea's imports is going but the other 1 is stuck there not able to get another gig anywhere else. Frosty is stepping up to NBL1.
Looking forward to seeing how their season starts and ends.

That young frost seems to have a bit of a future.he would be sorely missed

Chelsea GM used to have same role without title at SP.
Did an Sensational job. She is a top Quality person with great relationships with coaches sponsors BV and community. Chelsea created an attractive position that attracted high quality applicants. She was treated poorly by SP. Chelsea couldn't be in better hands.
SP were so desperate that they didn't do their due diligence. They are "selling" a picture that all is great. It's not. Truth will come out.
You don't change full board if everything is great. Best players don't leave if environment is right. And at end of the day that is the responsibility of GM. Real SP people have left club never to return. People who gave years to place (and put in tens of thousands $). Fairly or not this GM was seen as responsible for best coaches leaving and destroying culture. Time will tell.

Why can't the name of the Chelsea GM be mentioned?it will come out eventually ,why not now?
Not so sure about ex Chelsea GM returning.the knifing was deep

Here is the release about Chelsea GM

Dear Chelsea Family,

It is with great pleasure that the Committee announce the appointment of Bridie McGuire to the position of General Manager.

Bridie will bring many years of basketball management experience at an operational and financial level to the club. Bridie has spent 10 years working at association level covering various roles from Competitions, Operations, Governance, Capital Improvement, Strategic Planning and Financial Management.

The Committee is delighted with the appointment and look forward to commencement at the beginning of the summer domestic season.

Richard Tullberg

CABDA President

"I am very excited to be appointed to the role of General Manager with CADBA. I am eager to start working with staff, committee, the members and the wider Chelsea Community to establish strategic growth and sustainability for our sport now and into the future. I look forward to seeing all members back on the court in the coming weeks"

Bridie McGuire

CADBA General Manager

Take note southern pen that's a GM.
Built, along with others the tournament up to what it is. Wonder if she'll do the same at Chelsea.

Are you saying that Chelsea and other associations might run their own pre VJBL tournament this year or next? Sounds crazy.

Why not run one?

Could be good prep for teams and have it in city limits.

Agreed. This is survival for so many associations. Tournaments are a cash cow and these smaller associations need to do whatever it takes to survive

Great to see female leadership. Mornington have a great GM as well. Really is time to balance the leadership pendulum. Frankston have great female coaches.
How many leadership positions are filled by females in each associations?

Rumours are rife up here about some bad behaviour down at tank! The board was taken over. Management on notice.
What did the hound say? Clean environment. Anything but. Funny the joy that was taken by some down there when we were having trouble. Now shoes on other foot!
Just glad our daughters don't play down there.

Frankston respects. Simple. Years of hard work to build a culture which removes barriers for women to be leaders.
Chelsea and SP have a long way to go to catch up. It looks like Chelsea is moving in the right direction. Even though it was a tough year the job Maxine did was exceptional with such a young group in YLW. With a new female GM and a strong senior women's team and female coaches it really values opportunity.
SP looks like it has moved back in time. What women are in leadership positions? Boys club?

I'd go with the second or he was talking crap!

The problem at one of the associations is an ugly situation. per usual down there poor leadership. When one of most respected coaches in state leaves, when they hired and fired a head coach within a month, when male players request a change of coach and a female staff member leaves you'd think questions would be asked. Board or management or both? Silence is....

Chelsea women are pumped to play SP! Lots of talk about payback for what happened to Youth league.

Seems like a lot of twisted knickers on being worn

SP is not one of the larger clubs. It's a bin in a dumpster placed on a tip.

Chelsea vs sharks. No contest. Sharks have no female players of any quality. No young talent at all. Chelsea 13-1 last season. Sharks only won a couple of games. Often losing by over 40 points regularly. Lots of regrets getting rid of G now!

#244 - Probably need to clarify that one. Up until recently, SP were pumping out a great many number of great junior girls players, that were playing state, collegiate and even national level. I don't think any of those girls are still there however.

#270 agree. Point is whatever was happening in the past not happening now.
#282 Chelsea women 13-1. Sth pen won less than a handful games. Best player gone to nbl1. Gulls develop our own not poach like SP did. All leaving now I hear. Sharks leadership have destroyed that club especially the women's and I hear men's HP kids leaving as well. It's going to take 10 years to fix up that mess. Maybe if poach our new GM ...nah

Exactly!!!! no point any players with any talent staying at SP. How's the girls side going? Any in state programs? With Big G there it would have had a dozen.
How do you have access to PTT numbers? Are you a staff member at the tank? Wowsers

Chelsea GM may need to check this! Imagine if that's true. Embarrassing.

#322 all of them would be playing college and successful!
But 12 is better than none. how many are at the tank now? Lol

#313 are you at shark tank? Who's going to nbl1?

Either of these two clubs likely to go up or down in big v?
Lots of talk on other threads about clubs moving up. Sounds like it could be best for sth pen to move down to D1 and for Chelsea to move up to CW.
Sounds like with the focus at SP being men's program. Chelsea d1 team in women look the goods.

#313 must be high up at sharks. Who else would have access to PTT figures? Inappropriate

What's going on with this threads? It seems like the hound has disappeared from the threads and been replaced by maybe someone higher up the chain? Disgusting to be holding that position and bagging out a neighbouring associations.
Mornington western port Frankston must love this.

#283
Hellesey, West, McCrae, Cox, to name a few. And there have been others.

#496 who is there now? What has happened at SP?

None of them are.

Monix the real question is what has happened?

I think your wrong! SP has girls in u16 in state team and a heap in u14

#519 the rumour down at SP is that the issues have been going on for years. This GM is turning around a sinking ship. Apparently previous boards responsible for dire situation now? What the truth is who would know but read all his updates and pretty clear where the blame is being laid.

#527
Dandenong I thought. Does that mean Dandenong get the credit for her development?

And I think that's the point of these posts. There were a lot of players developed down there previously, whether they were from there originally or moved because they thought it best for their progress. Is that path still there ?

#537 can't blame this lot for sins of past. When current gm at another association was in charge things didn't go so well

Not sure what you referring to #551. Past sins ? I'm not blaming any "lot".
But the large personnel turnover they had from the 2010's has hurt them.

For most of the 2010's SP were improving each year. They were sending more and more juniors to State & HP programs, attracting plenty of young talent, and had coaches in HP pathways. Their Junior teams were winning VC & Classics, something which the club couldn't even get teams into in years gone past.

With their Seniors, the Womens side started 2013 in D2, after struggling mightily in D1 for years. It was built up and finish Runners Up in State Champ, with primarily locally based or long term recruits and astute import selection, with an achievable goal and realistic plan of staying at that level.
The Mens were scrapped and started again, again using home grown talent for the most part, and were on the way of working there way up again, having won D2 and at least Mid-Table D1. They had similar plans and goals in place.

Their tournament was growing by the year, and they were financially sound.
The people that achieved all of that are now gone. Which is fine. Everyone moves on eventually. But do you think the Juniors and Seniors will reach those same heights ?

All this was up to 2019, just before Covid Hit.

None of this is opinion champ. It's all there in black and white.

Monix,
Maybe you need to speak to current GM. According to the association updates the place was a rabble until he took over. What you say and what he says don't match!

#551 #582
Get your hand off it or you'll go blind. SP domestic competition has collapsed. They've introduced under 8 under 9 mixed etc etc. but number of teams still dropping further. Board knows this. GM puts his Mayo on the story. Read carefully the social media. Board see through forked tongue. and the hound is waiting in the background. Ready to take over.
As for way it used to be run wait and see how Chelsea fire now they have the old SP GM. She is the one who kept the off court running like a well oiled machine.

#582
I don't need to check anything. None of what I said is open to interpretation. Those Junior teams won VC & the Classics. Check the Big V history for the senior teams progress. And the people that helped all that happen are all gone now. None of it is a matter of opinion. It's fact.


The last two years has been brutal for all basketball clubs, but it sounds like SP had a tougher time than most.


I genuinely hope the new board down there can get things going again, but I am saying that the bar was set very high from what those people were doing.

That followed into U18s and won a lot, with pretty much the same group of girls most the way through.

Suppose you're also forgetting of the boys team that won the classis with a few state rep players and always placed well in VC too ? All locals too.

There were other age groups that reached VC too, but didn't quite win it all.

Something SP could have only dreamed about in the 90s & 00's.

Argue all you want. That 6 or so year period where those people were in charge were the most successful on the court in their Juniors history and possibly their seniors too. And the admin did a great job off the court also.

Can't disagree Monix. No one defending where SP is at now.
Anyone arguing where those players you point out came from is a nuftie.
They used to come to SP. Now they run as fast as they can.
SP used to be HP destination. Now apparently top junior female and male both have left. Questions should be asked!
It's just Chelsea rejects now at SP another one just employed.
Maybe if the "leadership" developed their own rather than pillage from Chelsea they wouldn't be in this much trouble.
It's not a coincidence that Chelsea went through turmoil and now SP is. Look at the people. One has been on here posting until he got called out.
But as someone said who cares! They now have no relevance. If your a Good baller it's Frankston then probably Chelsea then breakers, Steelers and the sharks would be last.

Think monix has some inside info on shark tank. Perhaps he'd like to give his opinion on where it went wrong?
SP has been a disaster for years.
What was the first GM they had?
History repeating itself?

You don't need "inside knowledge" when you have a memory and access to the internet. I've simply pointed our the results SP had over that 6 or so year stretch, where they were NOT a "disaster" and absolutely overachieved for a club their size.

I then pointed out that all the people who were there for that successful stretch have since left, all over a 6-12 month period. If you want to know more, look into it yourself.

I offer examples. You offer sweeping statements with no reasoning behind it.

Monix financially sound? What happened the last time they employed a GM? Bv had to step in! Were you involved then?
The president who just finished his term has turned things around along with GM. Word is a audit was undertaken and what you say was not the picture it painted or what GM is saying or recent board members.
They say on court success came at a cost ....
Maybe you take it up with your Chelsea mates

Big rumour is that Sth Pen has lost hundreds of thousands last few years. Going to struggle to pay for players in Big V.
One of best female players maybe heading home?

Monix it's that period that set up southern pen for failure. Management continually ignored domestic. It is the worst domestic competition in state. All "success" in VJBL was achieved by recruitment. My daughter and others had to leave the ass because they chose not to put in an u18 team or a youth league. At least last two seasons there is a pathway for girls.

#775
18 game season - $9000
Plus finals.
With spending like that Better ask for that money upfront!

775
I think you made that up.
The Board would not allow money to be spent like that.
They are division 1. Have no coach Maybe if they spent it on women's side.

Is it true Chelsea are in CW?
Oh geez if that's true SP are done!
Hound dog where are you?

WOW great news for the gulls! I wonder who will return to the nest now that the tank has sprung a leak?
Interesting to see SP throwing money at men. I wonder if the same is being done to the women? They'll need to after axing the eagle!

SP run a "process" and then appoint Brasser as head coach. No experience as coach. process wasn't real or got no candidates.
Clowns

Brasser coaching SP men. Gee the Hound will be disappointed. Not many positions left to shaft!

SP are so struggling financially they sent a personal email to every domestic player to come to try outs. They willl be the Most represented association in VJBL 7-10!
A long way from being the highest proportion of state national players which they were 4 years ago!

So SP and Chelsea men have appointed head coaches that have never coached higher than kids in VJBL 3/4. Nothing against the guys personally, but what processes are these clubs following?? I suspect that a certain veteran import at the Nest doesn't like being coached, so he recommends a kid that he can control. Just a guess.

It means no-one else applied!

Need to remember SP coach took over midway and did good job so they kept him rather than advertise.

No disrespect, but at 26, head coach BIG V Champ Mens team, surely Corey should call it for what it is! Lachlan would have very litle input at Training, Game Day at least it would be an experience!

Sorry knucklehead, was just commenting on Gulls appointment. Not sure how that is "riling" something up between 2 clubs.

Think you have OCD or GPS.

We type with the same grammar because it's correct. Also allowed to have an opinion.

The righteous amongst us hail from the southern end of the peninsula. "Oh it's about the kids they say" while pocketing moola being way over paid.
Same SP people who bad mouthed Chelsea constantly on these threads until identified.
Same SP who took so much from nest and left it in a mess. Well we've cleaned it up and now that all your dirty laundry is being aired you want to think about kids?
Maybe SP might do better focussing on themselves, stop texting sorry tweeting I don't know what you call it. Get the hound GM off here and get ready for the kicking that's coming your way now the women are playing each other.
One thing is for sure there is going to be a huge crowd at those games.
By the way, it's capitalising. You are not in America!

#007
Unbelievably good coaches!
One has never coached before the other doesn't coach just let Corey do all the work and takes the glory

I think Chelsea is quite happy that all the trouble makers are driving 40km south every week!

#137 put it in a text

You've been drinking or on something if you really believe that both SP teams will smash Chelsea teams.
Chelsea has already won by sending its troublemakers to SP. That's the big win!

#170 where's the hound?

The Hound was last seen in the Rosebud area trying to undermine staff and coaches at a local basketball club. Haven't we seen this behaviour before at a club closer to Melbourne??

What an amazing turnout for rep at the nest! And unlike SP we didn't need to send out a invitations to all players to lift our numbers. Can't wait to see where everyone grades!!!
I suppose regional does have its advantage if you are from the tank

rumour is there has been a huge walkout in u14 u16 boys from the tank.
Big shock! May well have no VC teams, no VJBL 1 teams or VJBL 2 teams. Girls or boys.
Coaching the issue.
Real shame.
not unexpected.
What did they expect they'd get from those that tried to destroy Chelsea.
Hound dog and his puppy what champs.

Monix aka handyman
Why don't you stop attacking SP and show loyalty. You seem to have found a new home. Time to Hand something back?
SP GM has taken out the trash and got rid of toxic people. Coaches, board members who didn't have any idea. The club is in best shape it's been in. Years of poor management and new board knows where blame lies.

Hey Anonymous, you got this weird thing for me huh ? Not sure where the SP bagging is coming from champ, and certainly not sure what the hell Handyman is, but as I've stated before I have no affiliation anywhere. If the club is in the best shape in years, then that's great. The bar has been set pretty high though, so hopefully the club can challenge for a title in SC, have multiple teams in VC and kids in the State program again.

Look forward to seeing you in person Anonymous.

Monix
Yeah weird how you held a high position at an association. You've keep mentioning how good it was when you were there.
Not true. Those teams were full of recruits. The off-court was spending on individuals to keep them happy.
The last president had to clean up your mess and this GM has had to do the same.

....SP women......key player(s) seen at neighbouring try outs..... it would seem animosity towards sharks isn't just from gulls but another association. It would seem "stealing" from the tank is all the rage. Maybe the two clubs might be better merging. Then again why would you. The next GM association get together will be a laugh.
Karma

I'm flattered you show such interest in me. But not once have I mentioned that I "held a high position" down there, nor "was I there" when I cited the previous success they've had. The results of the VJBL, Big V and Classic competitions, are in fact, public. I have nothing to do with the place. Despite what you think or who you think I am.

None of your points really make any sense actually either. Other Associations "stealing" from the Tank ? Like who ? Who are they stealing ? Who is stealing them ? I'd have thought grown adults can make their own choices if they leave and aren't stolen.
How many of the Womens team were elsewhere before this season ? Were they stolen too ?

Monix states facts. Truth be told something stinks at the at SP.
Why all the animosity all of a sudden?
Hillier gone. Hack gone. Mass board changes. DOC gone. Men's coach gone. Domestic person gone. HP person gone.
All these changes over 18 months. They had west hellesey etc coming to play now none.
What's common thread?

The common thread is the Hound and Mrs Hound. Dangerous people that will do anything to get their Puppy a senior game. Problem is, that Puppy has the work ethic of a sloth. Just sayin.

Don't think there's any jealousy over them leaving. A lot of happy people actually.
It's the fact that they won't move on.
They not at the Nest any longer so move on and put your efforts into where they are now.

In terms of SP, that much change will have an impact and take time to recover.
Hope they have right people now and can rebuild to a be a successful association.

SP is a boys club. It's been culturally like that for years. Last board had 3 main players all their kids were looked after, got everything handed to them.
Same thing now. Same thing before. Look at coaches, board members names. Match to players.
So many players leave because of it.

At least they have two State Champ teams - not everyone does?

Start of season
Chelsea 2 state champ teams
Sth pen 1.
End of season
Chelsea 2 state champ teams
Sth Pen 0.
Wait until grading has finished and you'll see the juniors will be higher than sP

As for the bloke who built Chelsea up from nothing. And how did the club end up.
In fighting everywhere. And as opposed walking away with class has continued to undermine and snipe. From what we here the trouble has left Chelsea snd is at SP.
GM being under minded by the hound. Him and his on court puppy got him knifed from coaches role now working on GM. Rumour has it the HP guy didn't even get to start because puppy was a bit insecure.

SHarks will destroy Chelsea this season. For simple reason we focus on developing our own players and coaches. It's the sharks way

Sharks way?
Where is the HP guy? What happened to DOC one month guy?
How's hound dog doing? Mrs dog. Her performance at the nest went well.
Lots of rumours coming out of tank. Except most are true

Mrs Hound could be the most destructive person in basketball on the Peninsula. Change that, IS!

We have been subject to a lot of mud throwing by hound and his mrs. considering we have heard about physical altercations, bullying and suspension from stadiums the tank is in turmoil.
Staff sacked after a month so doc role becomes available, HP guy gone, domestic gone, male coach gone so doc can have it.
Who would want to work there? Pretty clear hound has brought his ways down to tank. And now Chelsea is flying. Connect the dots.

#894 you question? What heck is the rest?

A friend was recently employed by southern peninsula. Great person. Knows his stuff. Then told there was no position for him. The financial situation had changed despite Victoria coming out of lockdown.
Totally unprofessional. They can't get anyone to work down there and we can see why.

Do y'all have anything else to do then start bashing other clubs. I’m sure both clubs will do fine.