Back to Woodville?

Hard to believe Sturt finished top had the double chance and couldn't at the very least make the grand final

Without any imports and losing 4 rotation players to college I think it would've been an amazing effort for Sturt to make the grand final.
Calligeros and Daly were not up to it vs Norwood + even if they had their full line up 9 games out of 10 they are losing to North w Dech & Mcveigh.

Dech is a huge in for the rockets, great defense and elite outside shooting. Will be interested to see how the Rocket support cast play under the big lights, no doubt Norwood will test Staude and Jimma's outside shooting prowess.

So the Southern President and puppet master push out a Southern Junior as JDO/Men's Coah to build the club around an American, his wife and his mates. Then the President does a runner, and the American coach and wife are off too. Sounds about right for Southern.

Sturt went into the season knowing two starters wouldn't finish the season but played them for big minutes anyway. Knowing they'd peak mid-season and not have the talent come finals to compete.

Sturt is not the victim here. They made a decision others did not. They chose their path.

Stop going on about Sturt... nobody cares except for Sturt people

Even they don't care. It is seniors afterall.

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Rockets have 3 young players at the COE that they couldn't pick all season, what’s your point? Losing juniors is no excuse! Put those 3 players in the program and the Rockets might not have lost a game
Agree Calligeros isn’t up to it, players like Nash Goodall Reemst aren’t at the level either and probably never will be

Actually they could. If they were related to the Comp Manager who allowed it for a certain club then after the fact changed the By-Laws so that it was ok. But agree North made the tough decision to go with the guys that would be there til the end. Sturt didn't. They got the finals outome they deserve for their own decisions.

As someone else said, Sturt don't care, its Seniors. They can't win so they just don't compete and claim they're taking the high road. From what I've been told they're still in debt so it hasn't really worked for them.

Hahahaha fines. Sure

"Put those 3 players in the program and the Rockets might not have lost a game"

Maybe next season North can give them roster spots over Dech, McVeigh and Dowdell so you can boast about finishing 9th.

Like when Sturt played pne of their many PGs over CJ. Or bigs over DJ. Or paid for Spear to come back from Vic, a West Junior.

Stop. Just stop.

NBL1 is nothing to Sturt, 14s Classics is where it's at

Rather than bag Sturt for going out in straight sets, I think it is fair to say they perhaps overachieved by having such a great season to finish top. Many wouldn't have predicted that.

Similarly, North have done extremely well to make the grand final given the clash between the NBL and NBL1 seasons.

Norwood are in great form. Should be a great grand final.

Some great match ups and arguably the best two players in the league competing in CJ and McVeigh.

NBL1 is a wins/losses game
Sturt have won 5 titles in over 60 years
For all the pomp, hype, spin, bullshit about being elite respected (see above) there is no hiding from that history.

Ummm Spear is a West junior.

Why so much chat about Sturt in this thread. Last time I looked they aren't in the GF’s

IMO

I'm sure Norwood women are still a little pissed at Southern for losing that last regular season game which could have gotten them into the finals spot.

Despite all the stats, etc - who does everyone want to win and lose.

North men - cause we're tired of the Webbers running the show and if they win, even though Turnage deserves a win - we will never hear the end of it that they are the greatest of all time. Really Turnage carried that team the entire season - Green can only play in spurts.

Women - I don't think anyone really cares either side on who wins. Maybe karma might bite Tigers in the rear end - they've played well all season and choking at the end would be the end of all ends. Might see a number of more players leave if that happens.

Anonshotter, everytime Sturt don't make it we hear the same junior development bullshit. Here's a different way to look at it, the club is lazy. They can't be bothered getting imports to surround these wunderkinders. Hence they don't win. They are only interested in their junior program. And before the old line of playing the juniors get trotted out again, part of playing seniors is learning to play with 1 or 2 imports. That will happen wherever you play in the world. So in fact the club not being assed with imports is actually doing the juniors more harm than good.

Lets not forget they have an import in the women's team. So either way their claims are BS.

Who is commentating for Kayo?

When does the next season start? March?

Likely depend on how the NBL season goes and if its delayed due to covid but generally end of March/early April.

Although SA usually has a Summer Season too. Not sure what that looks like under the proposed model of competitions for 21/22

I think we get a vintage Lycett game and leads Norwood to the win. He's been on the big stage before, still a classy player and will have an edge in his matchup.

Are you saying Lycett is greater than Dech in this matchup?

Lycett will see Staude or Dau I think. Dech to Harding and McVeigh against CJ.

I sit down and try to line up matchups and I still have no feel who wins. I think North have a bit more flexibility with their bench especially with Williams. Who can match him for speed?

Wilson might not put up the same numbers but he's just as fast or faster. Williams 0/10 last week maybe not built for finals.

Well given Wilson will beat Williams I have to go Norwood

What is the likelihood that both Milat and CJ are at Norwood next year?

One thing is sure if Karma has a say in this game Southern lose. Yeager arrogance in the game against South in their final was as bad as I have seen. You had a good game but carrying on like a tool won you no friends. I hope North win!!

Heard a rumour that A Webber plans to suit up using medical exemption to hopefully get another championship medallion. Wouldn't be happy as a bench player losing your spot for the GF!!!

I am not sure outside of Freer that there was a more dedicated JDO. Good luck to Dave and presumably Teige. Good people who will be assets to the club.

you are way off the mark with the Morell situation , i have spoken to players and they all knew it was a chance he would leave , those that come into contact with them all say nice things, tigers will be in a massive hole when the 3 of them leave, all of the heavy lifting at tigers was done by those 3.

People go on about Sturt only winning five but Norwood have been around longer, are big spenders and have only won 4 titles

This year it will be 5 as Turnage leads them to victory in his last game for the club.

Word is Corey will be lucky to survive at West. Sounds like Rojo is on final chance with his behaviour at Eastern, god knows what Norwood does. Scotty should be shown the door. Central's and South already have openings, can't remember when there was such a large number of openings maybe happening on the men's side. Andy, Rigoni and Deano the only safe ones it seems.

Deano on the chopping block if they lose tomorrow?

No

Deano is safe as houses. North don't change coaches too often at all

Not sure all 45 fouls needed to be called, some very strange decisions but the right team won. Congrats Southern on your season and even with limited minutes to some starters showing superior depth to get the win.

North just didn't have enough especially after the horrific injury to Webber early on.

How come no best of 3

Never has been.

Shouldn't all the conferences be the same format

Why?

Interesting choice of words.

Dech just showed why Turnage isn't even close to an NBL level import. A poor man’s Fatterson in a low level league

North women lost.

D Webber, NBL1 Centrals version of Gary Rohan

Don't know.

Where'd that $250k go Deano with another big budget title

unproven alleged "big budget"

Great to see Tigers girls win after good old Deano financially wiped the club off the face of the earth

Treasurer and sacked by BSA committee I believe you mean

6 players that played meaningful minutes for North - McVeigh, Dech, Dowdell, Williams, Dau and Staude have zero connection to North as juniors... can use alledged if you feel but it was a 'hired' gun team. Add the use of Purchase to stay afloat mid season you can not deny this was definitely bought not built. That is the modern era and well done to Deano and North for having the connections and resources to do it.

recruited is different to bought or big budget. I will use alleged while you continue to use language for which you have no proof.

This is hardly new. The teams of the 80s and 90s that won state league championships weren't much different.

Dowdell not expensive, been at North a few years. McVeigh recruited by previous coach, playing secoond season. Staude certainly not exepnsive. Dau not expensive. Williams not expensive.

Coach and Club rejected price tag of two over rated 36ers fringe players as too expensive.

Facts matter.

There's the proof you needed, guys: 861 says those guys weren't expensive. Facts.

Not much to say about Dech and McVeigh's price tags, but I'm sure he just forgot about those two.

How admirable that North passed on guys you deem to be overrated and too expensive.

Didn't forget have no idea. Neither do you.

The rest I do know. I don't care if you believe me or not.

And to the point at hand. You made a claim so did I.

Neither of us presented evidence. Call my claim alleged if you want, thats fair. So is calling your big budget claim alleged until you can present actual proof of what their budget was. Also what exactly "big" even means.

So how many games has the GF MVP played for the club???

More than he has for any other team in SA.

Who cares. They put a team together, they won despite some difficult circumstances this year. Seem like deserved winners to me, as Norwood also would have been if they won.

Dowdell string another club along all off season to get more and more money out of North. More he asked for the more they ha died over.

If you're going to pay, at least win. North wouldn’t pay more than half a dozen other teams in the league. The biggest spend this year got teams to 8th & 9th.

End of the day North as a club would be very comfortable with the amount spent compared to other clubs.

They would be very comfortable with having women in the Final and North Men winning it. Comfortable that this success is underpinned by sustainability. This gives all their kids at state jnr level and over in Canberra a winning program to play and develop in on their way to the pro ranks.

It gives a great program for the club to get behind, invest in and aspire to be a part of.

The only people upset about what North has done and is doing is those that are not in the red and white because Norths success will impede their own. I do not think North are too concerned about those people.

At the end of the day your creating a culture of recruiting a Senior team over your Junior players

What nbl1 clubs In the whole country run with their juniors , and are competitive? Few and far between.

Hobart chargers run juniors, with normally two imports.

Unfortunately this thread is a perfect example of SA basketball

+ 1 above

If the Tiege and David Morrell go along with their other side kick will leave Southern further in a hole... They have been allowed to kill the Club and now get up and leave to chase dollars....

Its sad to see another club buy in to the self interest. They are not the first and wont be the last. There is another out there right now. Some people use Clubs as a stepping stone/quick cash. Committees fall for their self promotion and buy in believing they can reinvent the wheel.

I'm sure the team they brought in have done some good things. I've seen from a distance some of their work. But clubs need long term planning from Committees not quick fixes. If they move on Southern will have to either take a long slow cheap process to competitiveness (in juniors) and growth of their small numbers and influence OR find some money and spend it to bring in one of the few club builders left around, of which there's maybe 2-3 left in Adelaide with a track record. One of which they sacked and he just won a title elsewhere so count him out.

My guess is they'll aim high and end up somewhere in the middle, slightly over spend for someone with high energy but will do a lot of learning on the job who will do what they can and probably remain stable.

They're not the only club settling for middle of the road looking behind them rather than ahead.

Let's remember how the Morells ended
Up at the tigers in the first place , poached by a long standing tigers identity , 3 days later and they would have stayed at Woodville , tigers got what they poached from Woodville

If the Tiege and David Morrell go along with their other side kick will leave Southern further in a hole... They have been allowed to kill the Club and now get up and leave to chase dollars....

Southern were on life support a few years ago. A husband and wife duo appears. Wife is one of best players in league, husband is looking for coaching opportunity. Men's team is decimated so what's the harm, at least the women will be fine. Wife proceeds to be best player in competition and wins title. Men's team surprises and makes playoffs before they are eliminated by one of worst passes in history. Up by 2, your ball on the side, seconds to go. Worst case scenario is you take 5 second violation and setup defence, instead your point guard throws a floater across court leading to wide open dunk to tie and the season ends in overtime.
Now suddenly both partners are hot properties. Interstate club offers big money, longer term plan is husband continues coaching career. Southern after getting into major financial trouble in previous seasons buying titles suddenly have to make decision. Which was probably wise.

Tigers on life support because quarter of a mill in the red on Deanos watch, miracle our great club survived

Deano was a coach. He didn't manage the books. You're being sold a cop out by the Committee to shift blame. Members of the Club should be taking certain members of that Committee to court for compensation.

Nyberg was head of basketball and the only full time employee at the club, his brother in law was the treasurer
Hmmmmm.
Official reason for lost monies was "unaccounted for merchandise"
That a lot of t shirts
Cover up much? Truth always comes out eventually
Tigers community needs to be applauded the way they have stuck together and got through this
Great to see their 18 Boys win everything last year and NBL1 Girls win the championship, great reward for everyone there

His brother in law was not the Treasurer when the money issues occurred.

So what if he was the only full time staff member. Still doesn't mean he had control over the accounts, or fee collection. He was in control of basketball.

The Treasurer was a fraud and the committee didn't ever discuss the clubs finances until it was too late. Why did BSA remove the committee members responsible if it was Dean's adult?

Anon #923

That's a blatant lie.

Everyone knows it was a treasurer who failed to follow up and get fees. Nothing to do with basketball operations.

Only great things is ti see them buy another championship buy spending money they done have in heir senior women’s only to see them lose their best panthers and waste all that money.

^how many wines had you had when you wrote that last paragraph???

Back to the game - Norwood just didn't have enough around Turnage. Lycett is still classy but not MVP level classy, more perimeter based now and rarely gets on the rim. Harding more sizzle than steak and D Webber a non factor. Green had moments but can’t seem to dominate for long stretches.

Dech was great on Turnage which is no surprise but watching the last few games I’ve been surprised how good his passing has been. He is a great player and does things the right way. Dowdell was massive and could have been mvp, easily won the matchup with Green. McVeigh not at his best but did enough and hit some shots when it counted. Easily the most passionate on court! Dau a nice cameo particularly early while Staude & Williams were both quiet they played their role.

North had to beat every finals team to win the title, hard to argue against them being very worthy winners.

He was paid to look after junior district and his buddy was paid to look after domestic. They didn't do those things out of goodwill, it was their job to do them.