TNTMarv
Years ago

Central NBL1 Round 12 Power Rankings

Women:

1. Southern Tigers - Undefeated, teams yet to find a way to beat them.
2. Sturt Sabres - A scare v a much improved Mavs but still winning.
3. South Panthers - Thompson's recent form would be a concern, not comfortable.
4. Forestville Eagles - Bounced back from a loss to the Flames by beating a solid North outfit.
5. North Adelaide Rockets - Ortlepp and Good in fine form, Defrancsco stepped up v her old club. Capable of moving up to 3rd.
6. Norwood Flames (+1) Injuries have hurt this group but Wilson and Co. can upset higher ranked teams as they did the Eagles.
7. Eastern Mavs (+1) The addition of Hines and Juniors to help McKendrick gives this team some solid depth and a 2nd big scorer.
8. West Adelaide Bearcats (-2) The victim of two in form teams around them, the Bearcats should remain mid table.
9. Woodville Warriors - Some early season form has fallen away, rely on Winter too much.
10. Central Districts Lions - Juniors in a Senior Comp, doesn't work.


Men:
1. Sturt Sabres - One slip in an otherwise stellar season to date.
2. North Adelaide Rockets (+3) - Comfortable wins over fellow Top 5 teams. Another important test v Sabres this week.
3. Forestville Eagles (-1) - Big margin loss to Rockets but otherwise appears to have the guns to keep ahead of the current challengers.
4. South Adelaide Panthers - Needed win v the Tigers, despite missing key players Starling & Ellison. Hulland still with question marks over fitness and motivation.
5. Southern Tigers (-2) - A bit harsh given their run to date and beating top of the table Sabres just 3 weeks ago. 3-2 in the past 5 rounds, 2 upcoming games against mid-table teams could prove this team is legit or slipping.
6. Central District Lions (+1) Beating teams around them, need to start beating those in Finals if they want to sneak in.
7. Norwood Flames (+1) Need someone to go each week with Turnage.
8. Woodville Warriors (-2) Struggling to keep up with the talent they have on paper. A number of one dimensional players being shown up for their limits.
9. West Adelaide Bearcats - Had their chances but can't finish off games. Too many bad quarters each week.
10. Eastern Mavs - A mess. Less said about them the better.


Round 13:

Forestville v Woodville.
W Rnd5: Forestville 84 def Woodville 54
M Rnd5: Woodville 86 def Forestville 82
Eagles will have too much talent in both Women's and Men's games.

South Adelaide v West Adelaide.
W Rnd5: South 85 def West 71
M Rnd5: South 79 def West 67
Danger games for both South teams. These are the games they could slip on.

Southern v Centrals.
W Rnd5: Southern 120 def Centrals 34
M Rnd5: Southern 87 def Centrals 76
Tigers Women should get some good minutes into their bench. Men will want to bounce back in this one. Lions Men need this game to stay in touch of Top 5.

Eastern v Norwood.
W Rnd5: Flames 79 def Eastern 64
M Rnd5: Flames 90 def Eastern 69
Women's game should be a tight one. Two similar teams in form. Expecting a tough, physical contest. Men's game could turn ugle, very early.

North Adelaide v Sturt.
W Rnd5: Sturt 69 def North 43
M Rnd5: Sturt 78 def North 58
Double of the Round. Both Rockets teams have found their funk and are pushing for top 3 and safe Finals spots. Sabres women struggled to put away the much improved Mavs and their lack of size may show here. In the Men if the Sabres can limit McVeigh's impact they'll take this one. Dech to shut down one of the Sturt trio, the supporting cast may be where this game is decided.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not bad. Still think North are too high in the men. A couple of solid wins and one lucky one against Woodville doesn't offset how bad they were to start the season. Drop them a couple, move Southern up a couple and you’re about right I reckon.

This week

Sturt will show North what a real team looks like
Centrals will fall victim to a loud southern crowd
South will easily take care of West
Norwood will crush Eastern (and I think Norwood makes the 5 at the expense of North or South)
Forestville will beat Woodville and questions about Whitmore will start to be asked.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

North have won 5 in a row, the last 4 against teams in the five at the time. They struggled with scoring in the first have of year but that seems addressed. Only team to score over 100 against teams other than Mavs and against top 5 teams. They will only get better as they gel better. I think 2nd is reasonable. Based on current form who below them would beat them. Sturt is huge challenge. Just feel Sturt are too small

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Everyone saw the flukes McVeigh was making on the weekend. North played great but it's not sustainable. Sturt with smart coaching will get it done on the weekend.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The only one who can shut down McVeigh is Conner Henry

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I didn't see any flukes!!!

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Jason  
Years ago

FLUKES
HAHA
I be the more McVeigh practices the Flukier he gets. I was rooting for the opposition but fuck McVeigh was great fun to watch.
Good on him.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Daly & Spear have been very good defensively this year. They will be able to stop McVeigh and Dech so it'll come down to north’s role players who are the same guys who started the season 1-6 or something.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sturt are in trouble with a capital T.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

First Woj and now Marv Albert!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not sold on Daly and Spear stopping McVeigh and Dech.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The bigger question might be the other way. Sturt scored 123 last week, can North slow them down?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sturt did this against Eastern. Who are giving up 103 ppg. The next worst Defensive team is giving up 84 ppg.

Sturt's TWO reserves teams would likely beat Eastern.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Even with their new guys they have given up lots of points to Forestville and Woodville.

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Bob  
Years ago

Great write up , interesting comment on Norwood women , sacked import coach midseason (again)and players using injury's as an excuse to quit mid season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Forestville scored a lot when Dean ran his deep bench in the last Qtr

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not trying to have a dig at the coach or the club but honestly what is happening at Mavs men?
Is it just a horrible run of injuries or players not coping with constant big losses? Their bench is almost to the point of grabbing fans from the crowd to field a team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mavs men are a result of at least 5 years of mismanagement. These things don't happen overnight.

Norwood women the same, goes back to post 2016 when the Committee blew the whole group up.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Continual coach rants at officials is a really bad look. Ejections and multiple tech fouls isn't the way to go with juniors looking on. Club is in bad shape indeed

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Anonymous  
Years ago

My predictions this week

Women

Forestville
West
Southern v the Bye
Norwood
North

Men

Forestville
West
Centrals
Norwood v the Bye
Sturt

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What happened with the Norwood coach?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is the men's coach gone?

Where is Woj?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Woj has just accepted the vacant mens coaching position at Eastern

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No one seems to know what has happened to Norwood's women’s coach , he was coaching 18 girls as well , he left his previous job early in Tassie as well. Norwood clearly didn’t do their homework on that appointment. Not one player remains from the 2017 Norwood women’s squad

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Skip  
Years ago

Woodville on the hunt for another new women's coach... La Mott sacked after a win last week.
Not surprising when you put together a team with only 3 players with NBL1 roster ability…

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Norwood women's coach left his spot in Tassie because he was sacked like he has with Norwood.

Bad management by Norwood saw him sign a 3 year deal and now the financials are with lawyers. smh

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So what were they sacked for? Not breaking news that Woodville hasn't got a decent roster especially without imports.
Norwood, while not great, as said in OP, capable of pulling off upsets.
Is it more cases of player revolts than committee expectations?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

White anted by assistant coach?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Maybe the answer lies with asking all the ex Norwood NBL 1 players who are at other clubs

I am sure the Norwood committee wouldn't be involved as they have an appointed NBL1 GM to oversee this

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Anonymous  
Years ago

North men and women go cause upsets this week.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why aren't we playing a double round this weekend? No juniors. Can split the games over 3 days.
Why are we running the longest season in NBL1 and missing opportunities to ensure the best players can play from start to finish?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Forgot about Norwood's GM, how's that working out, seriously? And what players of note from Norwood are playing elsewhere?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mackay, Webber, Good, Ortlepp are a few from memory

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Anonymous  
Years ago

McKay and Webber were there for 5 minutes. Still don't know how those within the clan left, normally as what happens now is the coach is sacked to appease the family.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Annetts, Freer, Herriman

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Which Freer? Wasn't Freer a Forestville junior? Herriman is still at Norwood too.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Should rename The Arc Parliment House, more politics at Norwood than Canberra

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Scott Freer runs Woodville now.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

507 thanks for letting us know, although that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, unless of course he used to play on the Norwood women's team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Major one I forgot was Chelsea Brooks, no relation to the Norwood Kevin.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just saw Morell has 29pts in less than 17 minutes against central's. Will anyone do a Kobe and try to individually score 80+ against them to get in record books?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is there a sack Whitmore thread coming?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Along with a sack Petty thread

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What happened with Coleman for Southern. Only played 38 seconds

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dech injury didn't look good

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Power ratings will be interesting this week. Sturt North game was great spectacle. Big upsets with Southern and South losing. Some more big games next week. You can't say this season isn’t exciting

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thanks #507, aware Scott Freer runs Woodville juniors (doing a great job too), but as #523 said, I was questioning how it related to the Norwood women's program.

I presume #448 meant Madison Freer who I thought was a Forestville junior. Also Herriman is still at Norwood as well. Aimee Herriman that is, not Scott Herriman!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Did the fourth quarter between Centrals and tigers get played? Game centre saying 0 points scored

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I am guessing it was. The box score showed players playing in excess of 30 minutes

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Game centre says the most was 23, and the team totals add to 150, which would be 30 minutes x five positions. I'm assuming it did get played but the fourth quarter hasn’t gone into it somehow.

Is the game centre on the nbl website the only stats or is there another site I should be using

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Eastern competitive against the CJs, take him out and they probably would've won, never will you see a better example of a one man team than the CJs
Best player in this comp by a long way.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I was using the NBL1 app. That shows 200 minutes

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Surely CJ is NBL standard, the way he flicked the switch last night was out of this world

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seriously though, can a replacement coach takeover Woodville and get them contending again. Take away their first month or so and they're on a massive skid. And normally the beginning of the season sees the talented teams win before others come together.
And I have no relationship with Woodville and Whitmore, just think it's amazing they are 3rd bottom which includes eastern.
Is it game plan or players tuned out or even lack of chemistry. But being down twenty something at halftime, even if it was Forestville, something is rotten there. Still time, but committee need to act and find someone to step in.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Julian jacobs out injured , this isn't helping ,

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Woodville have been without their standout import for last couple of games. Is there any news on why he is out?

Several games ago Woodville pushed North, the form side at the moment, more than most teams recently (except Sturt last night)

I just wonder is this a coaching problem or a quality of player issue?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What about the games he played when they lost?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They were struggling before Jacobs went out and the cracks were already appearing. Some had them as title favourites and they certainly have not lived up to the billing.

Petty and Whitmore copped it I thought unfairly on here but they're the gift that keeps on giving. South suffering a terrible loss last night at home and I believe may have lost the split on a west team who are definitely capable of winning enough to make finals.

Injuries can’t bail these two out as their teams were under performing before then.

On a positive note - it’s great that with 5 weeks to go 9 teams are still in the playoffs hunt. Highly competitive league this year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Firstly, Woodville are now done.

Southern losing to Centrals has to also raise some questions. Are they being found out now? Although the early loss of Coleman would have played a big factor.

South and Southern are not safe but can Centrals, Norwood or West do enough from here.

Big catch up game between Flames and Bearcats on Sunday 25th. Loser may be out of the running. Centrals at this stage the most likely to push for a spot.

Will Dech be out for the season now? Does the loss of Dech and Purchase put an end to North's run? Will the JackJumpers allow McVeigh to hang around for the full season?

Lots of questions in the Men's League with 5 and a bit Rounds to come!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Worse thing about South's loss last night was West were all over the split in the last minute and it seemed South didn’t have a clue or didn’t care. Fouled West at Perry’s request and then jacked up a terrible 3 allowing West to go for a split tying 3.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Petty's request sorry.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pettys position would be very unstable if he can't at least get that stacked list to the playoffs

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Stacked? Not with Starling outfit year and Hulland being the softest 7 footer in basketball

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Has a coach been more ridiculed since day 1 other than JP? His appointment was criticised, his interview in which he dissed Al and spoke of playing South juniors was extraordinary, now this season where he has a decent team, hits rock bottom. Wouldn't say they were stacked, but definitely a finals team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And minus Ellison, Starling & Ciabattoni, Hulland and Mudronja for half the season, they're still in Finals right now.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

On top of what is already an expensive roster he also brought out and sacked and import pre season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mudronja Hulland Hoppo are all elite college juniors
Starling and Johns are stars in any league, South people well within their rights to ask if Petty is getting the best out of these players and the team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Neither Hulland or Hoppo were elite college juniors.
Starling is out injured, Johns has played injured all season. Import wasn't up to scratch and was replaced by Mudronja and Hulland.

Gee people just want to make up stories to throw mud around. This team minus 2 starters including a Wollocott Medalist did beat Southern 2 weeks ago.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think what we are finding is that the competition this year is very even except for 1 and 10 where surprises happen weekly and you can make a case for anyone beating anyone in that 2-9 range

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just 10th.

West have beaten Southern and now South in the top 5. Lost to Sturt by 5 and Forestville by 3.

Sturt 3/2 in their last 5 games.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Didn't Mudronja and Holland go to COE and in the NBL this season? And I think Hoppo made a few state teams. And Starling and John's have been reasonably successful at this level. But yep, injuries are main reason. Jamie needs to tell his mum to stop posting, making him look sillier if possible.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Always plenty of excuses from South probably why they've done nothing for 25 years

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oh good, facts turns into a club bash. How hoops like.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

10 games and the only positive/informative post relating to any of the basketball actually played was that CJ Turnage had a great game.

Just the same old posts about which coaches should be sacked.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sturt vs North was a great game. Watched on stream and there was some high level team play by both down the stretch. Good to see a could of north guys aside from the 36er boys hit some critical baskets.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Any news on Dech's knee? Looked serious.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Don't think so. Maybe a contact injury. Be surprised if he misses time.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Any news on Coleman's injury??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Even with Coleman out the game was an important win for Centrals. Lual Diing has continued to impress with almost 20ppg and 10 rpg supported by Humpries 17 & 8 and Shaquille with 15ppg. One of the teams with a weaker bench than others but as long as their starters can stay healthy and out of foul trouble they can make the Finals from here given the question marks over 2 or 3 teams ahead of them.

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Anon  
Years ago

Centrals wouldn't win a game with out Humphreys. But with him they could be a serious finals contender. His energy and defence has to be some of the best I have ever seen in the comp.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^Are you Humphreys?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm not sure about Centrals not winning without Humphreys but if we were able to have a player out of the team when playing Centrals it would be him!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sturt would be desperate to win it and have no excuses from the position they are in now. Because it must be said, 5 mens titles in over 60 years from the self proclaimed elite SA Basketball club actually isn't very elite at all.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

After watching us against North I think we have a real strong chance this year. It is hard to match up on Daly, Spear and Rasmussen when on the court at once. My concern is will we lose Rasmussen before the end of the season. If so I think we may just be a gun player short.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

263 Sturts entire campaign rests on 18yo availability? Hmmm not very reassuring

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sturts strength has been in it depth and teamwork. Taking out an integral part, even if he's 18, is just as like losing a Starling.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Do they lose anyone else? Does anyone else lose players?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Umm, Rassmusan is not Starling and your whole argument contradicts itself.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Despite from Daly, Sturt has no real standout stars, and won by playing as a team.
Rasmussen scores 17ppg, Starling 18. But Starling does other things a lot better. Losing depth like Rasmussen will detract from Sturt nearly as much as Starling loss, it's how come they've been virtually top the whole way, the ability to have a rounded team. Suddenly someone will have to step up from lower minutes to higher, never know, they might produce near the same, but the whole isn't always the sum of its parts. Rasmussen would be runaway winner of best youth player.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sturt tell the world how elite their juniors are (most are poached from other clubs) so they would surely have a replacement for Rasmussen if he leaves

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So has Sturt lost top spot on the power ratings given their win loss record over the past 5 games? Has North convinced anyone that they should be higher up given they have won 6 in a row, the last five against teams which were in top 5 at the time? Is Norwood a sneaky chance to upset the top five or do they lack depth? Is Forestville deep enough to go all the way? Can South build a championship team around Hulland after losing Starling? How bad is Coleman injury and will it upset Southern's chances for the double chance? Will Central's sneak under everyone's radar and make the finals. Will both Woodville and West improve consistency to challenge and finally will Eastern win a game?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Are the CJs a sneaky chance to upset the top 5? The CJs will make the top 5 cause they got the best player in the league.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

At least if Norwood make finals he can't piss off to a wedding in Bali

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If that is so why are they struggling in the bottom half of the ladder?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Have to give Sturt alot of credit this season.
No imports, no Sixers and still sitting on top.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

While acknowledging Sturt's efforts it is not a normal season for NBL players (available 2nd half of year) and ability to get imports into the country potentially limiting the quality and number available

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sturt have the best coach in the business and the best trio of guards. Some of their bigs are terrible and that's what might cost them in the end. Could see them going all out to try and get someone like Brine from the Eagles.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sturt won't get Brine. Brine wants lots of $’s and Sturt say they don’t pay much!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Brine is a Gun, worth every cent, he's basically unstoppable and the main reason Forestville will be tough to beat in the finals

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