Oh, it's JARRED Bairstow. Lol. Who cares. Another nothing signing with all due respect.

I sure hope we can get some good imports because I don't think Bairstow is overly special either and Magnay is the only particularly good player that has been linked to the Jackjumpers as far as I've seen.

So I assume that includes the 3 allready announced?

I think most Wildcats fans would have been happier to have Jarrad back than Will. Injury or not Bairstow displayed way more grit and effort.

I think you will be pleasantly surprised with what you get with him Daniel as you continue on your journey of falling in love with the game.

Bairstow is one of those glue guys that you need on any team. In this Wildcats dynasty, players like Greg Hire and Brad Robbins were big parts of it despite what the scoresheet tells you.

Alongside the two head coaches; Hire alongside Wagstaff and D Martin set the tone for what "Wildcats Basketball" is.

Hopefully you attract a big marquee and fill your import spots well but your ex-Wildcats role players in Steindl and Bairstow know what it takes to build a winning culture.

If you offered me an expensive Cam Bairstow or a cheap Jarred.

I would have no compunction in choosing the latter.

Anon #727 take a chill pill.

Anon, you're the one that needs to take a chill pill. If you can’t hack a another poster’s passion and enthusiasm for his side then scroll past and ignore it. Carrying on like a self proclaimed 'guru’ of Australian basketball forums and dictating how one should express his views just makes you come across as the f**kwit you probably already are.

Well said Charon 88!

This forum is richer for the diversity of views including Daniel Felmingham who value adds more than some sad anon.

The development of a list (in this case the slow burn with the Jack Jumpers); should be enjoyed not ridiculed by some pathetic anon.

Bairstow is a late bloomer that I would have been happy 2c hang around the wildcats, as a tp/ir. Could become a very solid bench player for you.

Daniel, you are right to be concerned, however it's all going to come down to those last four players. Get yourself a gun marquee, and three very good imports, and you will have a very competitive team.

People look at what Jarrod Bairstow did with the wildcats and right him off but don't look at his QBL/NBL1 career he does more than what we saw this season, he was brought in as an injury replacement late and told play D and rebound and he did it as well as you’d want. If this gives him the nbl career he prob gave up on at his age then good on JJ’s for picking him up and good on the cats for calling him up.

Thankyou for all the information guys,I guess I need to do some more research of my own before I make silly comments,it's always hard being a rookie to these things.Im really starting to like what I have been told about this great game of Basketball and can't wait to become one of the Jackjumpers big supporters.

No need to be sorry Anon #753 all good, all entitled to an opinion.

As you say all will come out in time.

Putting together a new franchise is not simple, I am not expecting it to be faultless. The opposite but I'm enjoying the ride.

This is a franchise representing Tasmania - other franchises from other areas do not have players primarily from that area.

The Jackjumpers are not the answer for the development of basketball in Tasmania; far from it. But they are part of it.

I am looking forward to more courts being available for local kids to play at the DEC along with new courts being built on the Eastern shore of Hobart. Games being played in the North etc.

The North West of Tasmania has always had the benefit of having community based clubs and being part of the community. They are the heartland we need to replicate this across the State.

The JJ's can assist with this but are not the only answer. I would not want players - or coaches - to be gifted roles in a national league. That is self defeating and will not work. We need a competitive franchise here and that will take time. Currently have Radford, Chivers by 2, Deans etc.

There are a couple of locals that are playing college and with the NW Thunder and Chargers that have the scope to be NBL players including Taran Armstrong and Reyne Smith along with Jack Stanwix / Lochie Barker / Luke Brown. They should not be gifted contracts but have a pathway that may not include the JJ's may end up with another club / Europe / States etc.

There is now a pathway now that was not previously there - the JJ's can assist in developing elite talent in Tasmania but do not blame them.

It is a professional franchise - I am enjoying watching it come together.

Anon #766 would have a crack at JJ's for not trying to get Kay or Cotton. Roth publicly talked about Cotton being under contract but how he admired him as a player. Made no secret about going for Kay and said weeks ago he was heading to Japan.

JJ's really should have employed some anons on hoops to head their recruitment.

Anon # 798 - please provide an example, what would you as one of those anons do differently?


In the context that the full roster has not been filled.

Who would you sign?

Next Big Announcement from JJ's

JJ's are thrilled to announce the signing of Daniel Flemingham as Starting Cheer-leader for the team.

You, sir/madam? are an inspiration.

I hope Roth has some well above average imports in mind, otherwise we're looking at a bottom 2 finish for the inaugural season.

Import/
Magnay/J Bairstow
McVeigh/Steindl
Import/McDaniel
Import/Gibson

Isnt a bad place to start for a new franchise, especially if the imports are good.

When did they say Cotton was JJ bound - that is bulls.t.

Same with Kay and Norton - if you can not see the difference between asking the question and signing that is your problem.

They have never said they signed any of those players or given the impression that they would - nothing wrong with chasing them and saying that.

As I have said repeatedly I do not believe a player is signed until the club and player announce it.

If you are one of those 'punters' who misinterpret an answer to a question from a journalist to talking up a signing that is your fault not the Jackjumpers.

Hopefully the majority of these recent Jack Jumper signings are positions 6-11 on the list.

That is OK.

These aren't names I want pay NBL ticket prices to see.

Fair call anon # 817

They have just announced Bairstow signing :

https://twitter.com/JackJumpers/status/1412577185622229002?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

they are absolutely gutting the Wildcats, is this just a case of Roth wanting players he knows as theres already an established relationship and it's easier to build from something or they've just done absolutely no scouting on other players?

I wouldn't say "gutting" as I'm not fussed with any of them as a Wildcats fan. Bairstow was a replacement player, Steindl wasn't used as much with Blanchfield around and Shervill/Travers up and coming. Magnay was never going to stay, nor did I think we were looking to keep him, he fit a purpose at the tail end of the past season which suited us and him.

Not just the players which will be three IF Mangay is going there but our Assistant Coach as well but hey if you want to build solid foundations for the club and not just put a 'team' on the floor you might as well take from the best. Steindl def played his way out of another Wildcats deal but I hope he can get some form back.

I for one will def be there when the JJ's come through RAC Arena

Based on the way things are going the backup guard with previous links to Tasmania will probably be Kevin White!

Maybe Kevin White.

Jarred Weeks more likely.

Weeks confirmed as a signing by the Hobart Mercury.

Do people know much about Fabijan Krylovic?

It looks like Tasmania's three imports will be very important because I don't think many of the Australians are overly top players but I guess we are unlikely to be overly competive the first year.

Yep looks like Weeks and Krislovic, tbh honest was hoping for Dufelmeir and PUrchase or Stanwix / Richards.

If the JJ's do not lock in Magnay they will be in strife

Scout do you have any idea what imports we can get?... because the list including the other mentioned players doesn't overly fill you with confidence.

I think Magnay would be on the highest pay packet out of all mentioned players, so I think we would still have some good money left over.

Daniel imports are the hardest to speculate on and often the last spots filled on the roster as potential signings don't come up until after the NBA draft and Summer League because that's when NBA teams start cutting their rosters and guys start looking to overseas leagues.

People can guess but that's all it is. Outside of guys who are already in the league or have played here before no one has a clue.

Yup what TB said!

TB Thankyou!!

Imports are the most intriguing offseason movements as sometimes you can unearth gems like Wilbekin, Prather, Mooney, Tate, Hopson, Machado and Oliver.

Thankfully we have Adelaide who make the selection process a bit easier by removing names like Moore, Griffin, Sloan, 2Hard2Guard and Ere from the available pool.

No, and it is the very definition of pointless, to speculate about imports.
But watch, sadly people will still do it. Usually around the recycling of previously known imports, which is about as nonsensical as it gets.
the potential pool is literally in the thousands, if not tens of thousands.
Every (non Australian) college graduate who doesn't get drafted
Everyone playing in the g League
Anyone finishing a contract in Europe, or Asia

And I'm not exaggerating.
John Mooney was literally straight out of college
Miles plumlee had just finished up playing in China
We first got price Cotton after he pulled out of playing in the Turkish League
Terrico white the previous season head starred in the Korean League
Prior to Cotton, we try to guy and it was a record holder in the g League
And that's just a few examples from one team

They can and do come from anywhere

Yea exactly, if they can get imports similar to say Sykes, Harvey, Ben Moore who all played in the playoffs

I think a team of

Magnay / ??
Ben Moore / Bairstow / Krslovic
McVeigh / Steindl
Tyler Harvey / McDaniel
Kiefer Sykes / Weeks

Is pretty solid for a first year expansion team

"they are absolutely gutting the Wildcats, is this just a case of Roth wanting players he knows as theres already an established relationship and it's easier to build from something or they've just done absolutely no scouting on other players?"

There's no gutting, just very solid cooperation.
And I think that in reality they've not taken anyone the Wildcats were desperate to keep.
From both a Coaches' and Players' perspective, being seen as a team that will develop you and send you on to better opportunities, has got to be a good thing.

I thought we might have had more interest in retaining Magnay, but can certainly understand why the Wildcats didn't want t0 match what he was offered elsewhere.

At the moment, the JJs are looking solid. Roth knows his stuff, and was well-regarded as a development coach before he came to Australia.
He's assembling a good bench, and if an when Magnay signs he'll make a very good starter.

Somebody mentioned that Roth basically had 7 players lined up, and is now ticking them off. That makes sense. As I'd think it would be those 7, plus 3 imports and a Marquee. If Magnay is included in the 7, very good indeed.

And we all know who it's been claimed they're targeting as their Marquee.
and IF they were to pull that off, it would be a major coup, and they would be looking quite respectable.

D2.0 do you mind me telling me who people think they are targeting as a Marquee?

Could it be where we buy our salami?

Dan F, I believe Matt Dellavedova is the rumoured target for marquee. Whether they can pry him away from NBA money is another matter.

Silencer83 thankyou for that!

And anon # 970 is contributing absolutely nothin.

Is Anon #983 playing with a full deck?

Gibbo has probably past his best but would be great for the young players and would love to see him playing live.

Charon 88 - don't reckon

Anon #983 I understand but I do not feel the need to have a crack at others or for that matter the JJ's for that matter if they have tried to get Delly. I would have a crack if they didn't!

Yep 99.999% he will not come but why get so righteous to have a go at another poster like Silencer?

Anon's Don't get hung up on lack of local presence in the team.

The Chargers getting 3000+ fans to the Entertainment Centre in 2018 clis what caused Larry to look south with a raised eyebrow and give the Hobart NBL team it's first real legs.

The Chargers didn't need much local presence in 2018 to pull the success starved fans out of the wood work and neither will the Jacks...

Who said the corporate tickets aren't selling?

Haven't read or heard that anywhere.

Oh ok Anon (not sure which one you are) thanks for your insight.

Thanks Anon for taking a dislike to little old me.

Points of clarification:

- I was answering Dan F's question to D2.0 as Dan is new to the NBL and won't have heard the scuttlebutt that has been circling for 18 months or more that D2.0 was alluding

- You keep telling Scout to learn how to read;yet seem to have lacked the basic comprehension of my post that it is a RUMOUR of who they are targeting and was unlikely to occur

UNTRUE, you say?

Here is some articles including comment from Roth that confirm they were/are targeting Dellavedova for marquee.

https://www.themercury.com.au/news/jackjumpers-new-coach-hopes-to-bring-in-nba-star-as-teams-first-marquee-player/news-story/5ebdd4456fc8351ede8939aafb0d31f2

https://www.news.com.au/sport/basketball/tasmania-jackjumpers-interested-in-australian-nba-star-matthew-dellavedova-as-the-franchises-first-marquee-player/news-story/6e5da1a0f7222d61978dd9125a27383d

I get it, you are angry and bitter and want to run the JackJumpers down at any opportunity; but at least choose to pick on things that can't be corroborated with a simple internet search.

Yep, no way Delly would play in the NBL.

No way at all.

It was being ridiculed yesterday.

Fairly touchy anon, great pick up by United. Hoping JJ's still have a marquee signing to come.

It's all looking very underwhelming for the JJ's, who is left in free agency. If McVeigh and McDaniel are your best two locals it ain’t looking that solid.