Luke Travers to mandurah, does this make them title contenders?
is there a salary cap in NBL! west?? or Mandurah taking the piss here.
SBL was $60'000 so I assume NBL1 is similar or a little more. However likely that he is signed within the cap however "employed" as a casual coach within the clubs development programs that doesn't count towards to cap. Seems to be the loophole clubs get away with.
Mandurah pulling the piss because they know BWA dont investigate the salary cap. Mandurah doing nothing different to other clubs have done in the past. They had to do something as they are pretty irrelevant otherwise. Money talks and bullshit walks.
no one actually cares about the cap except for people in this forum. if the club has the money to spend then go for it
#551 I would say the clubs who actually do the right thing and play within the rules set out by the league and agreed to by the clubs, care about the salary cap.
Anon
Years ago
Magic putting Machado and Travers majority payment under 'Development' is no different to what clubs have done for years. Build a bridge if you dont like it. Actually love the fact that we have decent NBL players coming back and playing in our League and stop the stupid whinging for crying out loud
How can you have a national competition but one conference ha as salary cap?
Scrap and it have it the same as every other league.
If teams over spend and get themselves in a hole then they will only have themselves to blame and perhaps learn from it.
Mandurah has a good record with their finances, not!
the board are just a bunch of mums and dads and the little old lady who folds towels and hands out waterbottles you think they have any idea on finance
What makes the Mandurah team so cashed up? Rich owners?
Anonymous
Years ago
How would their women's team feel? Does any clubs split anything down the middle these days? What a joke.
if not mistaken haven't Mandurah bought in 3 eastern states players as well this season. sure not the same quality as the mens recruits but just sayin. good on Mandurah - gotta spend money to make money packed home games for the next few months . that's if you can get a ticket.
Anoon
Years ago
Good for our league. Bendat could be packed Saturday if it goes ahead.
Milo plays her 500th. Purser breaks Hawks all time games record. Both great warriors and significant contributors to basketball in this state.
Great for the league and well done to Mandurah, the other country clubs are all struggling with crowds, players and at the bottom half of the ladder.
i think its great for the sport and the buzz it generates.
Seems unlikely there will be games this weekend given past lockdowns lingering mask requirements
koberulz
Years ago
There won't be games this weekend, and I wouldn't be counting on games next weekend either.
Games will push forward if lockdown is eased, high likelihood of no crowds and support staff in masks. league cant afford more setbacks
koberulz
Years ago
Games will push forward if lockdown is eased, high likelihood of no crowds and support staff in masks.There has never been a restriction level that would allow that.
how ridiculous, marky loves his rules and making up new ones, and controlling his flock.
Actually, the advice to BWA will be interesting. The latest McGowan post says professional sport can resume. So wait and see
Koberulz I know you like to be the bearer of bad news but looking at McGowans fb post it expressly states that indoor community sport can resume with spectators.
^ from July 6. So comment re next week games is incorrect.
koberulz
Years ago
Jesus fucking christ do we have to do this every time we come out of lockdown?
Community sport will be allowed, with masks. Same as every other time we've eased restrictions. NBL1 will not play if masks are required.
We've done this twice now. C'mon people.
Anonymous
Years ago
If it goes back to restrictions from last Sunday (which is what it appears to be from Tuesday), masks are not required.
That was the key difference when restrictions came in on Sunday.
So no NBL1 West this weekend, but I'm not clear on what happens next weekend?
Anonymous
Years ago
Confirmed through BWA contacts. Masks required and maximum 20 indoors means no chance of nbl1 this weekend or next. The fact full contact sports can be played like footy and rugby yet we can't just because we're indoors is a joke. If it's as highly contagious as they are claiming, expect 100 new cases of footballers and the like early next week if it's true... Absolute joke of a restriction no longer making any sense. Either allow all community sport whether it's indoors or outdoors and be consistent with it
Anonymous
Years ago
Next weekend is not cancelled. Incorrect facts.
Likely to be played without spectators
Machado isn't here for the full season. He’s only ment to be here for a portion of the remaining season. Has to report to Cairns for their preseason prior to the NBL1 seasons end.
koberulz
Years ago
If it goes back to restrictions from last Sunday (which is what it appears to be from Tuesday), masks are not required.I don't know who made what call on Sunday, but tipoff was at the same time as restrictions kicking in so there may have been some leeway allowed there. Masks were required indoors, including players, thereafter. It's always been done that way.
That was the key difference when restrictions came in on Sunday.
Next weekend is not cancelled. Incorrect facts.Even without spectators it's still wildly over the 20 person limit and masks will be required by players. It's not happening. Let it go.
Likely to be played without spectators
Kobe the rulz are from abc summary of markys announcement
What about community sport?
Professional and outdoor community sports—including training—is permitted, but without spectators.
Indoor community sport is not permitted in the first phase of restrictions.
Once the second phase kicks in, all community sport—both outdoor and indoor—will be able to resume and spectators will be allowed, provided the venue abides by the two-square-metre capacity rule.
Anonymous
Years ago
Kobe you are wildly wrong yet again and grandstanding like you're correct.
Last weekends directions did not require masks during indoor exercise.
If they revert to the same directions (they may not), then it’ll be mask free when on the court.
So games are not quite off next weekend yet.
koberulz
Years ago
Kobe the rulz are from abc summary of markys announcementWhich part of that says no masks?
What about community sport?
Professional and outdoor community sports—including training—is permitted, but without spectators.
Indoor community sport is not permitted in the first phase of restrictions.
Once the second phase kicks in, all community sport—both outdoor and indoor—will be able to resume and spectators will be allowed, provided the venue abides by the two-square-metre capacity rule.
Last weekends directions did not require masks during indoor exercise.Yes, they did. I know some clubs said otherwise, but we went over this with netball last time. Sometimes people just read exemptions into the rules even though they don't exist.
Spectator
Years ago
Drunken discussions last night got to discussing what if BWA released an NBL1 West Playlist, with 1 song representing each club. Here's what we came up with:
Eye Of The Tiger - Survivor (Willetton)
Wind Beneath My Wings - Bette Midler (Perry Lakes)
Flap Your Wings - Nelly (East Perth)
Magic Stick - 50 Cent (Mandurah)
Pirate Song - Kenny Chesney (Geraldton)
Roar - Katy Perry (Cockburn)
Firestarter - The Prodigy (Rockingham)
Pray - MC Hammer (Lakeside)
Shoot Pass Slam - Shaquille O'Neal (South West)
Boris The Spider - The Who (Perth)
Hound Dog - Elvis (Joondalup)
We Looked Like Giants - Death Cab For Cutie (Goldfields)
Fortunate Son - Creedence Clearwater Revival (Warwick)
Black Hole Sun - Soundgarden (Kalamunda)
Anonymous
Years ago
No, you're wrong Kobe. There is no reference to indoor or outdoor when it comes to exercise in last Sunday’s directions.
That’s a key difference and was endorsed virtually everywhere, including Bendat which is government run.
Only HBF said no because the case itself was up that way and it was deemed a risk.
Can’t wait for you to be wrong.
Spectator
Years ago
Mike Barnett also said no because we drove all the way down there from Warwick only to see some young kid locking the doors shortly after 12pm
Kobe wrong? Even if he is he isn't. Too self important. Pretty sure he said in the early days of the pandemic there wouldn't be major EU or other competitions now too. But I guess that's forgotten too. Pretty hard to recall those posts amongst the 6000+ frikkin posts.
Anonymous
Years ago
Rockingham council known for being ridiculous across all of Covid so no surprise there
City of Rockingham still have rules in place whereby back-to-back courts can't be used, so Court 2 can't be used when Courts 1&3 are used.
CoR are full trippers.
koberulz
Years ago
Sunday's restrictions:
Western Australia has recorded one new case of COVID-19 in the community overnight in relation to NSW travel.
As a result, and until public health can confirm if the virus has spread, restrictions will come into effect immediately for the Perth-Peel region for a minimum period of three days.
These restrictions include:
- Mandatory mask wearing indoors, on public transport, and outdoors where physical distancing is not possible, primary school aged children and those who are exempt are not required to wear masks;
- Public events that cannot be restricted to 150 people will be cancelled or played without spectators today - including the Chicken and Beer Festival and AFL West Coast Eagles vs Western Bulldogs match at Optus Stadium. The match will proceed, but without spectators.
- 30-person limit in all homes for private gatherings;
- Hospitality, entertainment venues (including casino and nightclubs), retail, beauty/hairdressers, recreation centres (including gyms, pilates, yoga, dance and swimming pools) and places of worship can remain open, but must comply with the 2 square metre rule, with a maximum of 150 patrons.
- Community sport is permitted.
- Wedding and funerals can also proceed but will be limited to a maximum of 150 attendees.
- Hospitals will have a maximum of four personal visitors permitted per patient per day – masks will be mandatory for staff and visitors.
- Anyone who enters a regional area from the Perth-Peel region is required to wear a mask as per requirements in Perth-Peel, and travel should be minimised. Travel to remote Aboriginal Communities will be restricted.
All these measures will be reviewed regularly and the Chief Health Officer will continue to monitor the serious situation and provide more ongoing advice.
Everyone is urged to continue checking in using the SafeWA app or contact registers, get tested if you feel unwell and visit wa.gov.au/covid19 for further information.
Anonymous
Years ago
They aren't the directions Kobe, just the media release, which is often wrong.
FYI Kobe, these are the rulz
the emperor has spoken
Masks will no longer be required in outdoor public spaces where physical distancing is possible or when undertaking vigorous exercise indoors or outdoors
Tough break Koberulz - I know you were pining for this weeks' fixtures to be cancelled. Prayers up.
Anonymous
Years ago
Has anyone checked to see when Kobe's scheduled press conference to admit he was wrong is??
koberulz
Years ago
This weekend confirmed going ahead, but no fans. Decent result, under the circumstances, although the change in strategy re: masks for indoor exercise is odd given how much easier this variant spreads.
Anonymous
Years ago
Some stadiums will have limited spectators, it's at their discretion.
Clubs just waiting on BWA to confirm whether players and coaches are included in cap or not, to determine what limited spectators can attend
koberulz
Years ago
I hadn't seen anything from the league, just multiple clubs saying no fans. So some have obviously already made the call, if that's the case.
Anonymous
Years ago
Some clubs can't have fans because of their lease arrangements.
Would think clubs like Cockburn Willetton etc will probably have some fans as they run their own place
D2.0
Years ago
Don't really follow SBL NBL1, haven't been to a game in yonks.
Hence why I'm asking.
Exactly how good (or not) is Ethan Elliott?
Is he still only 16?
Does he look good enough to become a Next Star, and if so when would he become eligible?
some great designs being dropped by teams for indigenous round!
Anonymous
Years ago
^^ not sure how Geraldton's got approved when you can barely read the name or number.
koberulz
Years ago
Feel for the people doing the live stats in that game. Bloody hell.
Anonymous
Years ago
Fair to say Summerville is on borrowed time. Alot of people leaving both as coaches and office staff due to dealings with him. 0-2 for the weekend will not help his cause at all and if there was a Board meeting this week, he may not be employed for much longer after it
koberulz
Years ago
Are we talking about the men or the women? No wins between them this weekend.
Willetton men's streak comes to an end, although, taking out three starters in a game definitely hurts!!
Redbacks will start climbing now they have a full squad
Just Wondering?
Years ago
The CEO up at Joondalup may need to have a hard discussion with the men's coach very soon if Wolves continue to spiral!!
Willeton are a bit overrated. Lakeside are a much better team now than when they played in round 1. Now that's not to downplay the immense work they have done but full a strength Warwick, Lakeside and Perry Lakes handle them with ease.
Ethan Elliot is good. I'm pretty sure he’s still high school age I’m not sure he’s a next stars level talent just yet but he’s definitely good enough to go away to school and help his development. He’s also been lucky to have had some pretty good mentors on that Warwick team as well. The NBL experienced vets will have helped him immensely with what it takes to play at a higher level.
Spectator
Years ago
Have heard from several different sources from multiple clubs, Summerville could be gone by as early as tonight from both positions up at the Wolves. Believe there has been an urgent Board Meeting called to determine an outcome moving forward for the club, in particular the Men's program.
Who's afraid of the big, bad wolf?
Probably a fair comment re Willetton. Either way, a big improvement on the previous regime, it's good to see them in the mix.
Not good for Wolves. The risk you run letting your gm/ceo also be your head coach. Very destabilising if it goes wrong either side of things
Anon
Years ago
Ethan Elliot is yet to turn 18, averaging 11 points ppg @ 40%, a tad under 3 assists pg, playing 20 odd min per game against the best WA men have to offer, and you're wondering if the kid can play? Stood up at U18 AJC against the best in his age group, made CoE and NBA Global Academy players look pedestrian. Don't worry, kid can go ok and will thrive when given a chance in Canberra.
Ethan Elliott is a gun and should make the Australian Junior National Team if given the opportunity.
Interesting to hear what is happening up in Joondalup. They have a good team on paper but havent been able to pull things together.
Good to see Mandurah really stepping up and putting themselves into contender category. I still think they are a piece or two away, particularly with their bigs.
Anonymous
Years ago
How's the wolves women signing Martin?
Clutching at straws now. Can’t win with what you have?
koberulz
Years ago
Did anyone proof read that article? It's barely in English.
Anonymous
Years ago
At a minimum, the Wolves men's coaching position can no longer be tenable given it's not just their record, but it's the way they are losing too. Then the reports of player and support staff abuse allegations, makes you wonder why they don't just cut their losses with him in all aspects and let one of their plethora of assistant coaches see out the season at the very least. Summerville is doing so bad at the moment, some at the Wolfpack may be doing the seemingly unthinkable and wish they had Ettridge back!
Over half way through the season and the stats on the website are still cooked. Can't go to a players page and check their game logs. Its all out of order, wrong and misaligned.
Knowall
Years ago
Be interesting to see if any more kiwis or imports cross ditch now their season has finished
Perthworld
Years ago
Wolves men are at 10-1 to beat Perry Lakes tonight. What a fall from grace.
Travers has signed with Magic but hasn't played yet.
Is he going to? Getting a bit late isn't it?
Where are the Wolves haters tonight?
Perthworld
Years ago
Wow Wolves win. Are we going to turn a corner now? Should've got on at those 10-1 odds.
I doubt anyone did - hard to see that one coming from the wolves.
Goldfields nightmare continues. Is Creek on thin ice?
Travers signed with Mandurah Magic but hasn't played due to a few niggles with the body
Giants losing to slammers was a low point but you wouldn't imagine Creek is on thin ice with the team being ravaged by injury completely out of his control. He's actually done a good job competing with most teams with a very short handed roster
cooper creek been out most of the season
ballantyne with a season ending injury at the mid way point in season
klaztorny been out since mid way in season
pesava in and out since mid point in season
these guys were all starting for the team when healthy. Not many teams could sustain losing 4 starters for considerable time and continue winning. Especially when other teams have continued stocking up during that time
Who is most on the hot seat? Summerville?
Which clubs are generally considered the "big budget" clubs or do they all spend about the same?
Summerville needs to go. Not a surprise staff are leaving in a hurry. Marketing coordinator gone after less than 12 months in the role.
Wolves, flames & hawks all big spenders.
Anoon
Years ago
Joondalchoke spend the most - aprox the same as Bumbury, East Perth, Suns,Cockburn and Perf combined.
Pozoglu would be on 20k minimum at Cockburn surely they are on the big spender list?
Summerville will do better in year 2. Will get to recruit his own guys who fit his system rather than the has beens he got lumped with this year.
Anonymous
Years ago
Who else would Cockburn be paying?
$20K for one player and not much else is not a big spending club haha
Field, Chan, Holmes. There is easily 30-40k in those 3 as well
Anonymous
Years ago
HAHAHAHAHA Chan and Holmes getting paid.
^^^ This guy clearly knows nothing about Cockburn.
Field gets left over crackers, has barely been paid his whole career.
Who from the Wolves would get paid? What would Summerville pay himself?
Fat Harold
Years ago
And the parents of all the little WABL'ers are just so happy about it.
What would highest paid coaches get? And who? Would Summerville be upper end there too?
Anonymous
Years ago
Summerville likely built in as obligation of his employment and not specific salary.
Thwaites similar, except made choice not to take NBL1 coach payment. But Cockburn pays him well as CEO.
If you're the CEO would your job be in jeopardy if you weren’t to be retained as NBL1 coach?
more excuses for the giants - one minute its all their players have left! why ? all teams go thru injuries , it wasn't long ago that they were talking up their depth. a loss to the slammers sums it all up. changes needed.
Anonymous
Years ago
Depends on the club anon.
Would think at Wolves its possible.
Would think at Cougars (no where near as cut throat) would be unlikely.
It's an interesting combination - CEO & Coach aren’t necessarily connected roles.
Was at the Magic Giants game.
Their locals aren't good enough haven't been for a long long time,Their recruits Atkinson doesn't play defense, Kuany doing his own thing doesn't play hard Collins no idea what he is doing Cummings like his brother never seen a shot he didn't like.
Better recruitment I would say.
When you recruit guys who want to be 'pro's’ that’s what you’re going to get. Guys that chase numbers, highlight clips
who does the recruiting up in the goldfields? we need a strong giants,buccs and slammers for the NBL1 comp to be strong.
does anyone firmly believe that the NBL1 WEST champions in both mens and womens comp can challenge for the national title ?
Miles off the Qld teams and probably Vic too. Fighting SA for 3rd
Daniels coaches the mens and womens and is full time ... he'd be up there?
Big spenders in the men
Wolves
Magic
Flames
Lakeside
isnt this year 2 already for summerville?
Who do the flames have that gets paid so much? Warwick also have to be up there.
Hire is not travelling all the way down to rockingham for peanuts
they also pay Godfrey
Lol hire goes to highest bidder. Unfortunately flames got caught out , wasn't player he once was at this level.
A lot of hoo-ha about nothing from the magic then. They will get smoked tonight.
Apparently Scott Machado leaves at the end of the season and won't be playing finals
What is going on at lightning. Prue Shervil Armor Bowie all sitting
prue got injured during the game, armour and bowie injured
Greenblood
Years ago
Another Men's game and yet another loss. Either get rid of this disaster of an appointment Wolves Board or don't expect much support when you each come up for Re-election, starting with you President Hunter. We are an absolute shambles on and off the court in both NBL1 and WABL. We once branded ourselves the Destination of Choice for Basketballers. What a crock that is. Both Warwick and Perry Lakes are significantly ahead of us in almost all areas yet we shove our heads in the sand like nothing is wrong. Not to mention the severe lack of junior development in the Women's program, but then what do our aspiring juniors have to aim for when out NBL1 Women's coach keeps recruiting anyone who can dribble a ball from outside our own club and giving them court time before our own kids. Either stop the bleeding now or step aside so those who do want the club to succeed in the future can show you what you've been doing wrong!
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