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Years ago

Bucks Trade for Another Centre

Don't know if this means Bogut will play PF or whether he will come off the Bench, but the Bucks have just announced they have traded 28 year old, 6' 4" Desmond Mason to the Hornets for 27 year old, 6' 11" Centre Jamaal Magloire. Seems like a good trade (Big/Younger for Small/Older) for Bucks. Gives them 4 legit big guys - Bogut, Magloire, Gadzuric & Smith

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Moses Guthrie  
Years ago

According to the Milwaukee papers, they'll both start - one at the 4, the other at the 5.

[Cut and pasted from Fanball.com, the premier site for Fantasy Hoops fans.]

Apparently the Milwaukee Bucks were serious about building up their frontcourt.

After an offseason that saw the Wisconsin franchise draft Andrew Bogut and hand a sizable contract to Dan Gadzuric, the Bucks further boosted their frontline by trading for center Jamaal Magloire on Wednesday. The New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets received swingman Desmond Mason, a 2006 first-round draft pick, and cash considerations in exchange for their former All-Star.

The Bucks have spent much of the offseason worrying about their depth at power forward and pondering how they'd find minutes for both Mason and new small forward Bobby Simmons. Starting power forward Joe Smith is battling knee problems, and the Bucks were working Simmons, Gadzuric, and Toni Kukoc in at the four.

This deal erases two issues in one motion. Simmons is now free to start at small forward, and, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "Bogut and Magloire will start at power forward and center." Gadzuric and Smith will come off the bench to backup the big men, and Kukoc can return to being just a small forward.

The winner on the Bucks side is Simmons. He's coming off a breakout season in which he averaged 16.4 points and 37.3 minutes for the Clippers, and it was tough to see him matching those stats with Mason around. Bobby is now clear to continue the ascending path he started in 2004-05.

Now we come to the murky, potentially bad part. Assuming Smith's knee improves (which it has been), the Bucks will have four players to squeeze into 96 minutes of playing time. Magloire and Smith both averaged over 30 minutes last season, Gadzuric was expected to improve on his 22 minutes per game, and Bogut certainly isn't expecting to ride the pine.

Head coach Terry Stotts undoubtedly enjoys having four usable frontcourt options, but we have no choice but to lower the fantasy value of all the big men. Magloire is the big loser, as we'd pegged him to return to his All-Star form of 2003-04. He'll now drop from being a borderline top-10 fantasy pivot (and fantasy starter) down to into the top-15.

We also have to wonder if this deal results in a philosophical change for Stotts and his crew. With T.J. Ford joining Maurice Williams at the point, Michael Redd at shooting guard, Mason and Simmons running the wings, and a thin but athletic frontcourt, the Bucks were talking about being a running team, and it was fairly easy to see them replicating the 2003-04 squad that finished fourth in the NBA with 98.0 points per night. Now that the Bucks have added two post-up options in Magloire and Bogut, Stotts may rein in his run-and-gun plans and focus more on the halfcourt game.

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m dizzle  
Years ago

Excellent trade for the bucks, takes alot of pressure off bogut and will allow him to develop at his own pace without having to matchup on an elite big men night in and out. With the signing of simmons, welsch and kukoc losing mason isnt a small price to pay for a player of magloires calibre. Yes they had to give up a first rounder but there starting 5 seems to be set for the next 5 or so years so the draft isnt a vital thing for them next year.

New Orleans continue their youth movement and now seem ot have their backcourt rotation set with paul, jr smith, mason, nachbar, butler, snyder and masckiviusduogfiavbzkgf. They will now have to look to the draft in years to come to solidy their front court.

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m dizzle  
Years ago

*is a small price to pay

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cheezeburger  
Years ago

no rookie of the year for bogut now.chris paul has rapped it up bascically.on a team of no names he will start at point and tear up.

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TR  
Years ago

Big call on Paul cheeze, I've got $50 on Deron Williams from the Jazz taking the ROY.

Got Williams for $9.00

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What a waste of $50!

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Kriss  
Years ago

Massive trade for the bucks!

Im starting to think they may be a show for the big dance?

Whats there weakness??

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m dizzle  
Years ago

They are solid but i think you can say that about 20 of the 30 teams in the league. Teams need years of playing together to become championship material, the bucks basically have 4 new starters on the floor this year with simmons and magloire coming in, bogut from the draft, and ford back from his injury.

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michaelredd  
Years ago

bucks all the way
m.redd mvp of finals series

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twenty four  
Years ago

good trade. they now have a big man who we know can play in the nba. although magloire and bogut can now switch on the opposition 5, i dont like the fact that one of them has to take someone like garnett, martin or amare when hes back. neither are athletic enough.

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TR  
Years ago

Good trade, but no show for the big dance for the Bucks(If your talking the finals Kriss). The road still goes through Indiana, with a detour through Detroit and an overstay in Miami.

The division the Bucks play in is probably the most competative div in the NBA, each team has a real good chance of making the playoffs.

Indiana, Detroit, Cleveland, Chi-town and the Bucks are all legit playoff contenders. Lock in Miami and the Nets and one extra (washington, 76ers, Knicks, Boston) you have your 8 playoff bound teams.

Magloire played the PF when the Hornets were in the East, but he's a much better C. (probably got away with it PF in the East cause the best PF's were in the West) At the moment, Joe Smith is the better PF over Bogut (but not the better player). Smith gets beaten by the KG's and the Amare's and the Duncan's (like the majority of players), but at this time Bogut would get owned by them. Give it some time, he'll be right.

Always a good move trading a SG/SF for an All-Star centre. The 2006 draft is considered weak and the pick probably will be in the mid 20's. Still don't know why the Bucks didn't lottery protect it (dumb move missing that!!), just in case something weird happens (aka 2004/5 Timberwolves).

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cheezeburger  
Years ago

i would put a couple of bucks on salim stoudamire winning ROY.a bit of a ben gorden type player.

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TR  
Years ago

Put $20 on CP3 today, found him at $7.50 which is pretty nice.

Still liking Deron Williams, a lot of the so-called 'experts' are saying that the Jazz could be the Cinderella team this year.

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Dr Bullshit  
Years ago

They said they were going to play bogut and magloire side by side, aparently.

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