Yep, Fatterson & Jawai definitely warrant first team selection. Head and shoulders above the other players at their position.

Jawai clearly better than Mooney, although Mooney may get MVP it's only because he plays for Perf. Landale has played exclusively at the five all season but we can slide him over to accomodate Nate. Has to be done.

As for Fatterson, he was unstoppable in NZ and only improved when he arrived in Brisbane. Some will argue for Creek but his team is atrocious and he’s overrated. His first eight games were especially dreadful.

One things for sure, Nate and Lamar will be going to sizzler post awards night and rightfully so.

Haha, I hope that was just a solid troll attempt RobT, because no one can be so blind as to put Patterson and NatWest over Creek and Mooney.

McCarron
Cotton
Creek
Landale
Mooney

McCarron is the only spot up for grabs with Harvey, sobey and Giddey fighting for it.

Nate*

I agreed with Brad Rosen's team he mentioned during the game yesterday which from memory was:

Cotton
Harvey
Sobey
Mooney
Landale

Smoky: Josh Giddey

But unlike Rosen I don't think Giddey is much of a chance to make the First Team you can't pick him ahead of Cotton or Harvey.

I think this is absolutely the hardest pick this season. There's a lot of good players who are going to miss out.

McCarron
Cotton
Creek
Landale
Mooney

Smokies: Sobey - how is he not there? Harvey, CG43, Finn Delany, Webster(s), Ware, Jarell Martin

2nd team inclusions: Oliver (short season); Giddey, Humphries, Abba

Outsiders: Daniel Johnson, Machado (ups and downs) Majok Deng, Blanchfield, Adnam, Didi Louzada

I think it would be hard to put together a "Scream Team" this season

I can't believe there are people leaving Sobey out of the first team he's the likely league MVP, IMO.

Can creek be in it despite his absence? How long is too long?

Sobey and Cotton are musts. Creek SF, Mooney in there, Landale to round it out.

Cotton, Mooney and Sobey are locks. The other two positions are up for grabs...

I agree with Zodiac:

PG: Cotton
SG: Harvey
SF: Sobey
PF: Mooney
C: Landale

Are we talking about the All-NBL teams, or is this just a "best player at each position" thing? Because that's not how the All-NBL teams work.

The OP even had Patterson in there who's been disgusting all season and will likely never play in the NBL again.

Jawai has been very good of late but it's on the worst team in the league and the only reason he's back starting now is because Oliver left. Jawai produced next to nothing in the first 1/3 of the season.

Sobey
Cotton
Delaney
Landale
Mooney

If Delaney cannot be considered a SF then Creek.

LOL at Patterson, Jawai and Abercrombie being suggested for the 1st team. None of these would be considered for the 2nd team either.

What, you don't like Sizzler? #sizzlerism

Thanks Jack Toft, another reason to like what you write. You named some (a lot) of the players I found difficult to leave out too.

Zodiac, please, when you want to disagree with something someone writes here, try to understand the context of what is being said.

As a glaring example, this, from you (Z): The OP even had Patterson in there who's been disgusting all season and will likely never play in the NBL again.

Assuming I am that OP, I wrote, "I am a Brisbane fan so know how well Patterson can play the SF. Surrounded by the others in "my" team, Patterson would be a lock, IMO."

In Patterson's defence he had successive seasons in the 1st five, then was recruited by NZ where there was no "fit". Yeah, he was dreadful. After returning to where he should have been all along, he has slowly (I admit), once again, shown what he is capable of. Now put that, "what he is capable of" along with the other 4 1st-team selections (whoever those 4 are).

You (foolishly) continue with: "Jawai has been very good of late but it's on the worst team in the league and the only reason he's back starting now is because Oliver left. Jawai produced next to nothing in the first 1/3 of the season.

Well, Yes, but once again, CONTEXT. In the Cairns team, I would start Oliver before Jawai only for what else he can do that Jawai can't, stamina, moves, the 3 pointer, which no-one else on THAT cairns team could match. Plenty of players who can, and do, on "my" team. And just so that you are as vulnerable as I am, Who would be your replacements at the 3 and 5?

Which part of my statement is your crit aimed at? Cerainly not all of it. Only selected words that idiots can change to anything they want.

Zodiac, you should enter politics but only on the opposition bench where their one aim in life is to say, "No". I call them "Abominable no-men". You would be perfect.

I really don't mind different opinions, in fact, I search for them. But don't shit in my face if I don't agree with you (or in this case, you don't agree with me). You do have good posts as well. Stick to them.

to all, thanks for the different suggestions, keep them coming.

Zodiac, please, when you want to disagree with something someone writes here, try to understand the context of what is being said.

recruited by NZ where there was no "fit". Yeah, he was dreadful

I really don't mind different opinions, in fact, I search for them. But don't shit in my face if I don't agree with you (or in this case, you don't agree with me).

RobT, I don't know what your deal is but I don't really understand your diatribe at all. I also don't need to hear lessons on Hoops etiquette from a new guy who has been a fraction of the time I have and when I never even remotely attacked your post.

Referring to you as the OP (original poster) is common place on forums especially when it's someone who hasn't been around that long...

As to your reasoning for picking Patterson because you're a Bullets fan good luck to you pick whoever you like but as KET pointed out Patterson's form on not one but two different teams this season has been poor enough that I doubt he's even much chance of making the 2nd Team let alone the 1st Team.

Bizarre post mate.

Thanks for replying, Zodiac, and for reasons too. And I can and DO accept others' opinions, just like your latest. Thanks again. (I mean that!). It's the inference that I am a dickhead (right or wrong) for having opinions that differ from yours that I was objecting to.

You are right re the make up of these award teams. I tried to cover that with the option of listing your best team and/or the one the NBL proscribes.

No way does Patterson make it to the NBL roster but he does to mine (even for this season. He has already shown a lot of what he can do and with another 2 or 3 games of reg season, he will be there amongst the very best SF in this league....IMO).

In Nate's case, in the Cairns team, his circumstances certainly changed with Oliver's departure. Here are some of my observations. Nate was a bench player. no stamina to run up and down the court, chasing other (stretch)-bigs in D and working from the 3 line to the paint in O. That is not his game, never has been (hence all the zone D by Cairns to keep Jawai a little rested between plays). In "my" team, I don't want Nate anywhere near that. If he can hold down the paint with help from his 4-man, that'll do me. And watch how his O will advance like it already has done. Then there's the character of the man. He replaces an undisputed super-star who ends up in the big dance, and, knowing he is not that kind of player (as Oliver), he still had to adjust to enourmous minutes of his style fitting in with what his team were used to, and he did it very, very well. With the other 4 members of "my" team, I am still happy with Jawai. (Sorry for that ridiculously long sentence!)

[Seems that I have double standards here. I am ignoring (recent) history but relying on (soon-to-be) future for this opinion. I stick with Lamar as my "favoured" SF and Nate as my C.]

re: "Referring to you as the OP (original poster) is common place on forums especially when it's someone who hasn't been around that long..."

Thanks. No I did not know that OP is what it is and yes, I haven't been around the site for long. Loving it though!

Is Jawai a chance for MVP?

Okay, I'm looking for a new 3-man. I raved on about character and the Bullets serve that up for me. Yeah, Patterson too. He was ok, but that's the best I can say.

PG: Harvey
SC: Cotton
SF: Justin Simon (that's a perhaps).(Can I have Newbill?)(Didn't think so.)
PF: Landale
C: Jawai

Is that any better? Giving Jawai another game, or is it 2, + finals!!!???

Whatever Robt drinks / injects / inhales, it sounds like a lot of fun.

Yeah, straight up bizarre

OK, OK, You don't like my teams. One of my sons doesn't like my teams either and he can't be right, even if & when he is.

Now, let's get back to who some of the posters out there would like in the NBL 1st team and why!

First I'd like to give props to Vic Law, Dejan Vasiljevic and Jarrell Martin as they would be so hard to leave out if they played a fully healthy season but I'd choose

Inside players : Mooney (obvious) and Delaney (they'd be horrible to watch without his impact this season and for those saying Landale, if he brought the efforts of Delaney and had the court time then United would be killing everyone instead of falling over the line)

Outside players : Cotton (MVP), Harvey (Illawarra are nothing without him and...) Justin Simon (his energy, enthusiasm, defence and when he scores double figures it impacts the result more than Creek, Sobey, Giddey, Vasiljevic or Machado)

...but somehow Casper Ware will find himself in one of the All-NBL teams and I'll scratch my head and wonder why.

Now, let's get back to who some of the posters out there would like in the NBL 1st team and why!