Anonymous
Years ago
Forde and Sydney agree to part way
Forde and Sydney have mutually agreed to part ways at the end of NBL21
Anonymous
Years ago
Forde and Sydney have mutually agreed to part ways at the end of NBL21
Luuuc
Years ago
Forde is looking to pursue an opportunity that is better aligned with his family circumstances and professional aspirations.
The article reads more like he was pushed than parted ways mutually
To honest, I'm not surprised, just look at his starting line up against Brisbane the other evening in a must win game, yes they had injuries but lost lots of winnable games and should be comfortably in finals contention. Smith is a businessman first and doesn’t like losing.
Could Bogut take the job ?
Better for family circumstances. Does that mean Japan??
Anon
Years ago
Well lets see who they come up with.
Will they approach Bevo and then pull the rug out from underneath him again.
Maybe Gruggan will think he is the man for the job.ha ha.
Will they shift Heal from the Flames to the Kings.Desperate if they do.
Bogut coach hahahaha The NBL christmas party coffers would be over flowing
Wang whipper
Years ago
Some real weasel words in there. Not coaching NBL is going to be better for his professional aspirations? Hmm, ok.
Lemanis would be good.
Bogut has high basketball iq, he might be a bit of a knob,yes, but he has shares as well. He was in Sydney last weekend, low and behold, what then happens.
Longley might be interested, they always seem to play well when he's around.
Zodiac
Years ago
Not even waiting until the end of the season to sack a coach in his first year is not a good look.
Next season the Kings will be on their fourth head coach in four seasons, that suggests there is a problem somewhere else other than the coaching.
On the actual roster there needs to be a bit of clean out really get rid the oldies like Newley, Kickert & Weeks and get rid of Jarell Martin too. Try and bring back Casper although I could understand him bailing on this shit show now and build around Vasiljevic, Hunter, Moller, Bruce and maybe even Vodanovich.
Zodiac
Years ago
Oh and try and re-sign Cooks if his price is reasonable which it should be after doing nothing for the last two seasons.
Craig
Years ago
I'd take Shane Heal - 4 year deal. The roster will look very different next year no doubt.
Kickert
Newly
Martin
Weeks
Ware
All won’t be there - Casper is on a rumoured $500k a season, you can get something for half that price.
I get the feeling ownership not happy with forde clearly, to sack him after 1 year. The family comment is a cop out
Perthworld
Years ago
I'd take Shane Heal - 4 year deal.
Luuuc
Years ago
I'd like to see Shane get the job too. My diet has room for more popcorn in it.
Martin was a horrible pick up, Ware over played his hand in hero ball to often and should have been called out on it, only for it to continue.
Cooks, Moller, Glover, vasiljevic, Hunter is the basis of a good side. Newley I'd keep for experience and captaincy, Bruce as well, Get imports to fit around those guys, Ware could still fit the bill in the right system.
Cooks and Moller are out contract and will field offers from other sides, they both bring lots of positives, certainly team first players, both good rebounders, Moller can defend any position on the floor, cooks great on offensive glass.
Terrible look to sack a coach before end of first season. Definitely agree it sounds more like an internal issue than coaching issues, considering the high turnover in the role.
What Shane Heal is going to coach Kings and Flames? come on.
"What Shane Heal is going to coach Kings and Flames? come on."
No, just the Kings. I feel he would be the right man.
What so he's going to quit coaching the Flames (and his daughter) before the first game? Doubt it.
Luuuc
Years ago
Sounds ridiculous of course, but then again history shows he treats WNBL coaching as a minimal-effort side hustle.
RobT
Years ago
Shane's daughter was drafted into the WNBA (congrats Shayla) so won't be with the Flames, will she?
Maybe Shane has an 'If-my-daughter-gets-drafted-into-the-WNBA-and-I-get-an-offer-from-the Kings,-I-can-go' clause written into his contract!
Wnbareg season finshes September.
Wnbl starts mid October.
Heal would be a perfect fit for a Smith-led Kings.
Perthworld
Years ago
Heal would be a perfect fit for a Smith-led Kings.
And if Heal is coach they will be absolute trash
"Casper is on a rumoured $500k a season, you can get something for half that price."
His contract (pre covid discount) was higher than that.
Wang whipper
Years ago
RobT sounds like a real expert. Thinks her name is Shayla and doesn't know it's been announced she's playing for the Flames.
I believe Ware is on more, Cooks is Om 500k as the marquee.
Shyla Heal will play for Flames in WNBA off season. No way Shane is ditching his daughter to coach the Kings
"I believe Ware is on more, Cooks is Om 500k as the marquee."
Considering they had Bogut and Lisch last year, the Kings' salary must've been massive.
Lovebroker
Years ago
Sydney took Ware from United who suggested they offered the maximum they could.
Lovebroker
Years ago
Pongrass suggested Forde has exceeded expectations. Does anyone believe they believe what they are saying?
Luuuc
Years ago
NO, I don't believe they would believe that we'd believe what they're saying
There talking about 4 year term, I'd suggest it’s an Australian who they believe can set the club up. Say what you want about Smith, and lot of you take delight in bagging him but he’s no fool.
RobT
Years ago
"RobT sounds like a real expert."
Nope, and never pretended to be one. The, "will she?" in my post is testament to that.
I had heard re the Flames but thought that the WNBA would over-ride. Thanks to the civil answer from Anonymous.
Jacob Chance rumours going to jack jumpers, could Forde end up back with Gleeson.
Gleeson to nba or somewhere $$$, forde to Perth?
Luuuc
Years ago
Gleeson to NBA
Forde to Perth
Perth to have a losing record at home due to horribly biased reffing
Forde fired
Anthony Stewart signed as head coach
Beats Jackjumpers for the #NBL23 title
Craig
Years ago
Heal $1.78
Bevo $2.05
Dennis $2.45
Neilson $4
Henare $7
That's the market for me
Makes sense, forde family still in wa. Knows Wildcats in n out.
Gleeson with 3 peet moves abroad. Cuts contract short.
Sydney ge new hc.
Kelly to go imo
Shamir to go imo
PlaymakerMo
Years ago
Wasn't Shamir only just extended in the offseason to a multi-year deal?
21/22 locked in but contracts mean nothing these days.
PlaymakerMo
Years ago
Contracts mean nothing for players and coaches, not for organisations - unless you're Braswell...
Nz team need an agro coach, Webster's just chillin sometimes
Craig if you want to be posting and taken seriously, it's Neilsen.
SD is very happy in Japan. If the Kings roll out the money he will be happy to return. Heal WTF! Bevo is a poisoned chalice. Henare like SD is very happy in Japan. Keep guessing.
koberulz
Years ago
When and why did everyone suddenly turn on Bevo?
Luuuc
Years ago
Craig if you want to be posting and taken seriously, it's Neilsen.
Keep up KR. For once you are out of your league. #Fantastic. I guess with all the past vacancies for Head Coaches you really don't know.
Correct Luuc, My bad. Matty won't be giving up a USA gid in a hurry I would have thought. Can Longley coach? Bogut Coach? I doubt that on both accounts.
Bring in another Perth Assistant. They have 5 left. Oh no make that 4 as one will be going to the JJ's ;)
"When and why did everyone suddenly turn on Bevo?"
Not so much him as his son..
I don't think his son had anything to do with it, his last season with hawks wasn’t that good and word on street is he got lethargic, didn’t push hard enough. You have to train hard to play hard. He’s still got a very good basketball brain.
proud
Years ago
Firstly I thought Forde done a wonderful job (when you compare him to the dud at Hawks last season) and how they have been able to do lots of great things under his tenure such as flog the shit out of United. I'd be saddened if he was only a single season HC.
Secondly I'm so glad that nobody has mentioned Goorj in this as he is a legend at the club and would be offered heaps to join them... and there's already rumours of him joining Phoenix.
"Gleeson to NBA
Forde to Perth
Perth to have a losing record at home due to horribly biased reffing
Forde fired
Anthony Stewart signed as head coach
Beats Jackjumpers for the #NBL23 title"
God I hope not if Gleeson were to leave which I don't want either I'd rather anyone else other than Forde after this seasons behaviour
Where is all this talk of gleeson leaving for the nba coming from anyway see people saying nbl media but have been struggling to find anything beyond one or 2 fan comments
Anon
Years ago
Forde is a better Coach then Heal and Flynn.
Bevo last season at the Hawkes was not good because he had the next years coach back stabbing him on the bench.
Some players showed a lack of heart and did not put in the effort when on the court or did not want to play because of a supposed injury which was not real.
Forde has done well with what players he has had but you do not know what the team owners have been involved in all this.
At least the new coach should have input in his team selections, nearly all Sydney are out contract, DJ, Glover are the only contracted two I believe, Hunter has an option. Ware stats wise has been good but his team performance at times is questionable, Martin was brought in as a 5 but his defence could not cover that position so moved to the 4 where offensively is very good but defensively is poor.
While Forde has been ok, he has had no input into the team selections. The loss of DJ in the end was what killed any chance Sydney had of winning it. Sydney's management and Forde has got the decision right for both their futures.
"I don't think his son had anything to do with it, his last season with hawks wasn't that good and word on street is he got lethargic, didn’t push hard enough. "
Maybe look at the son's form?
D2.0
Years ago
Forde was the assistant already in place.
Keep in mind that there was a lot of uncertainty surrounding this season, salaries cut, players opting out, fears the season would get shitcanned.
It's possible that Forde was only ever intended to be a fill-in???
As for Gleeson, anything's possible. I think that when I heard it discussed the commentators were saying he was "good enough to be" an assistant in the NBA, not that they believed it was going to happen.
And I'm not so sure. He's clearly a good recruiter, of both players and assistants, and good at putting the right people in the right roles. Not sure how well he'd fit into another Coach's staff??
As for Asia, yeah I've heard that there are stupendous amounts of money on offer. I'm sure he's very happy in Perth, but it does happen, people move on for a better opportunity. Keep in mind that he would still be highly sought when he returned to Australia, so it wouldn't be a huge risk for him.
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