Anyone know where to see the 20's state teams

BSA hasn't posted the teams for unknown reasons, I'm assuming they can't be bothered, as they haven't posted the u16 teams either. But you are correct with those players that will be missing.

Reviewer from last week here. Thanks for the comments, sometimes you fluke a couple.

Here I go:

Norwood Vs Eastern
As mentioned, Rojo might be charged up even more for this clash if that's possible. Expect a bit of Big Rig hits, but Norwood should comfortably handle this one.

Sturt Vs North
Sturt back to what they used to do in juniors, just taking care of business methodically. North finally got a win, albeit against a Jekyll and Hyde West. Manel Ayol seems to be a very good pickup whilst they wait for Jack and Sunday. Just the consistency and structure should get the Sabres over the line.

Woodville Vs Forestville
Losing Brine will be huge if his ankle is indeed serious. Woodville finally had a hiccup and "NBL bound" Jacobs had an off day. Similarly Harris had a terrible shooting night against Centrals, that and Brine going down nearly led to a Centrals upset, Eagles only scoring 9 in the final quarter.
Woodville should have enough weapons, but never know what Andy has up his sleeve and if Harris can get his outside shot going and Mays dominates inside they may take it out. Will go with safe bet with Warriors, but if they crumble, Petty wont be the only coach on the hot seat.

Centrals Vs Southern
Dave Humphries is a huge in for the Lions, top line scorer and shooter. May have taken Eagles off guard, but having played recently with Southern, they would know what he can do.
Southern have an above average starting line-up, just their bench is non existent. That being said, Centrals haven't really got one either and losing the state kids will really affect their depth. Expect Southern to take early lead and then try and hold onto it in the second half.

West Vs South
Preseason, West were low on a lot of lists, but with the pickup of Ross were expected to be dangerous. But they just don't seem to care anymore, they show flashes of being a top 4 team but then they also look like a bottom 4 team in the same game.
South, WTF. One of the pre season favourites, but if you look carefully, they really only have Starling and Johns, when Ellison is playing big minutes as your next best player, you know they are in trouble. Don't get me wrong, Ellison is a great 6th man and bench player, but is averaging 31 minutes a game. Then counting on Hulland and Mudronja to come in and dominate, they had better hope they do. And has been mentioned, coaching is a major issue. Not sure what they had planned for the game winner against Norwood, but Starling taking a tough mid range jumper wouldn't be the play myself and any coach would be drawing up.
Have absolutely no idea in this one. Starling will be his usual solid self, but if West show any interest at all they should win.

Most of Centrals Women are only first year out of Under 16's! Building from bottom up, gotta give them cred for keeping going!

Thanks Anon 086, for providing some feedback on our club, always great to hear outsiders views (assuming you are not involved with the club, always hard to tell from an anon post).

To suggest the club is lazy and disinterested suggests you are an outsider as you would not see what is going on. I'm new, and just taken on the role, we looked at what our whole female program and what was required, with honesty and intent, at the end of last season and it was obvious (and is to others) that we have a lot of work to do to improve our female program. We decided that a rebuild from the ground up was the best long term and sustainable program to run. Sure we could have "imported" players like other clubs, but decided we needed to develop our players over time to create a core player base and then in time we can look at “marque” players. Providing a pathway vision for our juniors was also a critical part of the plan. Why develop young players in a club and they know they can’t / won’t get into the top team as the club brings in outsiders...their needs to be a balance, both from a financial and club aspect.

The club and girls know we are in for a tough season, small steps is the aim. About half our team also plays Friday nights, so we are trying to get as much experience into them as fast as possible. Of course that runs a risk of over playing (last 7 days they have played 4 games plus trainings and two of the NBL1 games have been against the number 1 & 2 teams.)

Rome wasn’t built in a day, it’s a rebuild and time will tell. Again thanks for your comments and if you wish to provide your name and number more than happy to give you a call and discuss further.

Cheers

You raise a valid option 108 ( and presume 086), and we could well have taken that path. However what type of Import would we get? Imports either want to play to win and be therefore noticed or play for money. At the present time we can't offer the former and is the later a sustainable option when in a rebuild, not for the cultural development of a club. If an "import" dropped out the sky, looking for multi year involvement both in team and in junior development sure we would look at that option. And we did/do. Currently developing a 16-17 year old that might only get low points now, but by season end is scoring double or triple (or more) would be wonderful development and confidence building. I see too many short fixes/patches that just are not in the best interest of club and indeed basketball in SA.

Let’s see how they go over the next, 4 games now the top 3 are played and then head into the second round with hopefully some improvement.

PS if you are an agent that has that import, once again drop your number and we’ll call!

Hello actual Member

I think you will see in last post the reasoning for no "import", Imports come for reasons, (or don't) and it wasn’t for not tying just didn’t work out, so you work with what you have. And exactly as you pointed out sometimes the best intentions don’t work out, and pretty sure as a member you would appreciate how our money is being spent.

History is history, I can’t change that, so we look to the future. As a current member you would be aware of the need to start a rebuild.

Yes the cupboard was bare and acknowledged, for reasons I’m sure you are aware of, or maybe not. Many areas identified and in process of being corrected, can’t change overnight, sorry don’t have a magic wand.

Never suggested we could have brought in players...hard to attract for reasons you and I are suggesting.

The development has to start with the current group we have, working together, being positive (which they are), learning about extra pressures, getting game time, learning coaches game style /plan,but it is going to take time, and patience, it also starts in the lower age groups as a club.

As a member you have my contact details and as we have said since the AGM we welcome and encourage feedback from members, whether that be good, bad or even ugly!

Same goes for any other of our members that post on here, whether by name or Anon. Well even non members if you feel the need, pretty easy to find some contact details.

Hello Anon 120, Imports in my view are anyone not from the club. Wasn't saying we are a lone ranger at all, and full credit to Southern and Forrestville who sit top of ladder (in Women) for work they have done previously, we now need to do the same.

Junior development is what we are focusing on as a club, both in players and coaches.

We know we have needed to improve so that’s what we are working towards, but it is going to take time.

You seem to suggest you have some knowledge of the club so again the communication lines are open.

We want to make it work and in a sustainable manner.

Nice Anon 123, i think you actually understand the point I was making, however 12 players each scoring minimum of 6 points equals 72 points, would have thought that would be a pretty good outcome this season, but everyone has views and is entitled to them.

We would we prefer to be winning of course, but i am an optimistic realist.

Anon 131, to be perfectly honest I so not know what their goal for points per game is, I'm a President that administers and leaves others will the roles they have responsibility for and reviews over the course. However I think it would be a bit higher as they currently average 38.

Hi Anon 135 You are welcome to your view and so are our members, and there are mechanisms in place for any member to raise with the club. Reviewed my posts and can't see where I said we decided not to use an "import" simply didn’t eventuate.

Don’t understand ill-informed, mistruths or hypocritical, just saying how I see it. Nor uneducated or ridiculous.

I see nothing wrong with contributing to a forum as a real person instead of hiding behind Anon, think everyone would be in a much better position if everyone did it.

"We decided that a rebuild from the ground up was the best long term and sustainable program to run. Sure we could have "imported" players like other clubs, but decided we needed to develop our players over time to create a core player base and then in time we can look at "marque" players."

This is where you stated your club's decision not to pursue an import. This is a reasonable position to take - until you backtrack.

To other poster's: Central women's current predicament has been the case for the better part of a decade. Don't pretend that being forced to play juniors in order to field a team is a new development and the result of the current administration.

Like Woodville, they neglected their junior girls program for too long. Playing 16yos is not the solution, but hopefully they recognize that a focus on their increasing junior participation and development is a step in the right direction.

Hi Well Read, understand your point, and in further posts clarification was given, of course, we looked/looking we were lucky to get one join us and is performing admirably, but when we falls short we need to evolve. Yes, we are well aware of where we sit and that is a large part of the reason I nominated for this role, so many possibilities for people to help us achieve too.

148, understand and respect your point of view, disagree with Amateur Hour, obviously don't know if you are still involved with your club, but things change and you go and engage where the conversation is and obviously some of our members are here even if Anon. We obviously have made errors in the past and are about correcting them. Nothing on here that would not be communicated to any member. Take the path well travelled that seems to have failed or create new paths.

154, reference and reasoning was given in previous posts about "imports" joining, so we are aiming to correct. Obviously don't agree with garbage comment, but you know I think you would expect that!

158, again yes you are agreeing with exactly what we are trying to correct as stated I previous posts

Nice to hear from a club President about the inner workings. More than a few clubs are a closed shop.

Oh well at least referees can be hidden on Central's women’s games