I would not be surprised to see the Breakers win this. The key thing for them there is how does WMW contain Blanchfield low and how do they keep Cotton from getting into the paint at will. However, if those two things still happen, but the Breakers shoot from 3 like then did against Brisbane, Perth won't win. It should be a great game.

Is Perth in a slump? Or is it that they're just not a great perimeter shooting team?

Perth, though this could be close, Delaney is in fine touch and Perth are weak in the 4 spot. Cats by 3, get job done as per usual.

Thank goodness you don't use your real name ;)

Yeah those odds look great if you want to take a punt on NZ.

Rob Loe not playing today as apparently he's not allowed to enter WA. Lol.

Perth to win (unfortunately).

If true, how can the nbl allow this, nbl gets Perth back every time. If he could not fly in Perth should have played away.

What!? If that's the case Perth win. May as well as not have travelled the entire team there.

"If true, how can the nbl allow this, nbl gets Perth back every time. If he could not fly in Perth should have played away."

The NBL doesn't care about the Breakers.

No, but the NBL shouldn't be asking teams to play in Perth if they can’t take in a full roster. It sounds like this has caught the Breakers off guard and he was offloaded from the plane.

Exactly, the whole team should have got off the plane, it's bull shit.

Shut up LV. Unless you're prepared to analyse every bad call for every team then you're incessant whingeing means nothing.

You're OK with that call on Wagstaff, LV?? Not only was there no foul but Randolph flopped. You should time stamp that one.

Dan Trist going for the Rusty Hinder award...

Cameron and Santa talking shit about heals man Weeks, how he's fallen out of the rotation and didn’t he play out Hobart once. He’s out of the rotation because he’s crap, I certainly don’t recall him playing for Hobart, it’s bull shit how they talk up there mates to try get them jobs. At least Hooley had nothing to do with it.
Now say the pace doesn’t suit WMW because Perth play a lot half court, what do you think you are getting at the Olympics.

Just commentate the game please.

Nz getting the bug juicy rub of the green atm... wow

Not at all. Perth are playing slack and not within their structure. That's why they're in a small hole.

How's Cotton's socks going?

Sorry Scout but that was no hip and shoulder. Randolph flopped.

Home crowd in home crowd bias. Real scoop there

If you were at the game you would see shamir has spent more time on the court than off, yet it's all trev...

NZB just turned it over in the backcourt. LV will try and link it to a refereeing decision from the previous quarter.

It was a perfectly normal screen

What was Shamir called for?

That was not a normal screen. Wagstaff had perfect position and then unnecessarily dropped his left shoulder. If you think that's a normal screen then you’re wearing Wildcats rose tinted glasses. FWIW, the game has been called reasonably well so far. Breakers won’t win without Loe, it’s too hard for Iverson to play heavy minutes and rotate on Cotton and Mooney. The only way Breakers win this is they get hot from 3.

Wagstaff had perfect position and then unnecessarily dropped his left shoulder. If you think that's a normal screen then you're wearing Wildcats rose tinted glasses

It's normal in that 90% of big set screens like that but because Randolph flopped then Wagstaff got pinged.

Scout, do you take Weeks for Tasmania, it's the mates act and it’s shit.

" It's normal in that 90% of big set screens like that but because Randolph flopped then Wagstaff got pinged."

Hahahahaha. Dropping your shoulder is never allowed.

Scout Trev has not ridden them more than shamir in THIS game. Trev also gets warned mate. And as above I've never seen trev complain when he gets a call.

Also which team is throwing suplexes?

When kings go to play two games in NZ shortly then fly to Perth, will they be allowed in ?

Trevor lost. Getting out coached. Can't cry to the refs like he usually does.

Breakers go 8 of 9 felt like it from 3 half of them were contested and trevs getting out coached... sure.

Fox your rotations
Outcoached. Talked offence in timeout made no changes on defence.
Out coached

Trevor should have played better defence apparently

Haha trolling the perf fans and they always take the bait.
But yes agreed. Shamir is doing a far better job

Gleeson needs to get on the refs more

Outcoached. Talked offence in timeout made no changes on defence.
Out coached

Hi, as this is the first game of basketball you've ever watched, feel free to ask any questions you may have.

Why is Webster even arguing?

Mitch Norton and his kamikaze drives *face palm*

What is he doing that is annoying you so much Scout? He's hardly done anything the last few minutes yet you're demanding he gets a warning.

Trev was warned ages ago bud. How about this fouls for nothing nz getting? Levi is in his scuba gear tonight

Trev is lost. "Need stops". Good talk bro .

Clearly you know nothing about basketball. Defence wins games. Oh they are choking.... Fantastic to see.

Steidl grabs from behind, no play at the ball, no call, then they call an international on that?

Death, Taxes and Perth home cooking

The Perth redneck army don't like the 6 fouls called in the last quarter. Do we care? Nup. Ref's trying to help Perth win. Still lose. Woot!

Mitch Norton is a joke.

Scout is channelling LV with his hot takes today

Send Mitch Norton back to NBL1

Yep, the Cats didn't do their homework on Randolph. It happens all the time with new imports. NZB just needs to hope it lasts.

"FFS what a way to piss it away.". No a 22-4 choke will do that.

Perth are frauds. Fools gold.

Absolutely great game
Forde whine now paying off in Perth, only got half the calls they normally get
Hopefully the local coaches watch Randolph and allow 2 point jump shots instead of only the 3 or layups
Iverson is a great pick up
WMW not that great today
Randolph is looking good after a slow start
Perth needs to rest Cotton, he looks tired.
I'm not writing of Perth
Did I say absolutely great game::)))) fantastic entertainment.

" Breakers won't win without Loe, it’s too hard for Iverson to play heavy minutes and rotate on Cotton and Mooney. The only way Breakers win this is they get hot from 3."

Breakers got hot from 3. 5 in a row in the 3rd, was it?

Iverson was a monster despite the heavy minutes.

Abercrombie was excellent on Cotton. Is he a dark horse DPOY candidate? He has locked down Sobey, Goulding and now Cotton at different times of the year, and made the game sealing steal and bucket tonight.

Trev out coached made no defensive adjustments.
Shamir's timeouts talks tactics.
Gleeson’s timeouts "try harder"

As a Breakers fan I will say I am biased. But Abercrombie tends to lock down a players options for shooting which isn't as visible on the stat sheet. Where Simons and Dec get steals etc which goes on the stat sheet.

Because of this I don't feel they look at him for DPOY.

#403 I'm 100% with you and I’m a neutral. Abercrombie over any other defender in the league, he also much better rebounding, passing and scoring. An all time great of nz basketball.

Trev out coached made no defensive adjustments.
Shamir's timeouts talks tactics.
Gleeson's timeouts "try harder

Saying this shows you haven't a clue about Gleeson and his coaching.

Perth have got 2 and a half as many wins as NZB this year but some idiot wants to crow about Shamir out coaching someone. Why doesn't he do that the rest of the time?

Perth losing at home is fantastic. More importantly they choked!

Abercrombie should easily be DPOY... but they never consider him. Hopefully this season is different.

"Saying this shows you haven't a clue about Gleeson and his coaching. "

Stronger defense from anon 415 with Gleeson than the Cats all night

"Why doesn't he do that the rest of the time? "

Injuries (Perth have had none all season, NZ still have players out) and a little unknown fact that NZ have not even played a single home game may have something to do with it. Get a clue 419

"Perth still comfortably the most successful team ever. This is one game lol."

Stop living in the past. You're only as good as your last game, and in your last game, you choked ;)

Bigdog there was still def Perth home cooking, but Abercrombie came through in the clutch. I swear you could hear one of the refs say "noooo" when he stole it at the end.

There are question marks about Shamir, but it's actually twice he’s out coached someone this year. The other was Henry, but that’s not hard. Gleeson one time out was telling them to get two stops in a row, but nothing about how. The Breakers were repeatedly running a simple set for Randolph where he came off a Delany down screen into an Iverson handoff. Gleeson didn’t counter this at all and it was only until very late did they try to double Randolph. But Randolph was a great passer, setting up Delany and Webster for 3s. Another example was that last game Perth got back into it by attacking the basket, but it was mostly Cotton and Blanchfield. Tonight it was Norton thinking he was Homicide and there was never a change to help focus the offence. As good as Abercrombie is defensively, he does not have the foot speed to keep up with Cotton but the Wildcats spacing made it easy for the Breakers to help and switch. Even on the Abercrombie steal Steindl was wasting space. I was going to end there, but why didn’t Perth continue with the 2-man game between Cotton and Mooney that the Breakers couldn’t defend in the first half?

Gleeson out coached. Shamir underrated. bigdog, you also said the Breakers imports are worse than nz nbl. Randolph > Hopson.

There was still home cooking...? I'd say NZ well and truly had the cooking tonight. This perth no injury crap is boring, they lost their starting centre to an Achilles before the season even started. Please tell me how Majok would not have helped on the boards tonight???

This Gleeson out coached crap, if Cotton gets the calls Randolph had its game over, Perth wins this from the line. Randolph making that fateful Italian dive in the world cup a few ago look like a genuine play such was his acting and the refs, well not wanting a repeat of the Forde experience called it.

I get this is the wrong place and everuone on here loves a Perth loss but, that game was largely decided by some really shithouse calls, credit Perth for having a chance to win it, i mean just look at the free throw count

Majok averaged 8 mins a game last season he no starter

Haha
Sydney game decided by calls and perf fans call them sooks.
Perf lost and the refs costed them the game hahaha

"if Cotton gets the calls Randolph had its game over"
You mean like he usually gets.
15-17 from the FT line last Tuesday

Cotton didn't take it to the rack like he did in Tuesday. If you don’t attack the basket you can’t get the calls. The reason he couldn’t do it as well tonight was spacing. The Breakers defence was better and the Wildcats didn’t adjust.

Majok started for United, who do you think was starting at c? I mean perth is starting bairstow...

Gleeson one time out was telling them to get two stops in a row, but nothing about how.

You can't be serious.

Cotton looks exhausted right now. Trev needs to find some more rest for him, or give him a couple of days off between games.

Gleeson has his well prepared before game day, as does Goorj. Their players no what to do before they get on, when he's saying get two stops, they already no how or what to do. To many haters that no shit.

"Gleeson one time out was telling them to get two stops in a row, but nothing about how.

You can't be serious."


It was three stops in a row, it's one of their main defensive goals (as it is for many teams) and the players are very well prepared to know how.

Gleeson was slow to get disruptive when NZ's offence was clicking, but to suggest his team doesn't understand what he wants out of time-outs isn't accurate.

"Gleeson was slow to get disruptive when NZ's offence was clicking, but to suggest his team doesn't understand what he wants out of time-outs isn't accurate"

So what was his plan to disrupt them?

I didn't mean that no one knows what he means. Of course they do, they all speak English. But other than playing harder, trying harder, but did Gleeson offer them technically to disrupt what the Breakers were trying to achieve? Given the Breakers were running the same play repeatedly, should they have switched? Could they have started in a zone then switched to man? Could they have changed the rotation so they ended up with the right player on Randolph later in the shot clock? Should Travers be matching up on what looks like an elite import who is shooting the lights out?

Offensively, what was their plan to try something different? Run Flex again a 100 times? Run a double down screen for Steindl to jack something up only to get blocked by Bach the 3rd time they run it? It was predictable.

bigdog likes to complain about Shamir's very European ball screen offence, but Gleeson's offence is very predictable and easy to counter when Cotton isn't lighting it up.

but Gleeson's offence is very predictable and easy to counter when Cotton isn't lighting it up.

hahahahahahahaha

Perth were slow to react to Breakers running the same thing over and over

Randolph had a great game. It happens. it doesnt mean Gleeson was out-coached.

He was though. It was pretty obvious.
Never thought I would see one eyed Gleeson fanbois rushing to defend his honour like this lol.
He was beaten in his own building by an undermanned underdog opponent and it didn't need any of the breakers to do anything insane it was just an honest team win against Perth and their refs and their overrated coach.

Apart from one fadeaway going to his right, Randolph didn't do anything spectacular. He just came off an on ball and hit midrange jumpers that were open on the Perth drop coverage and then he went to the rack on the switch. The reason he was so efficient was because it was so easy!

#601, I don't support Perth, I’m actually hoping anyone but Perth this season, but I certainly are not underestimating the coaching ability of Gleeson and his to many championships compared to you, some no body on an internet site. Go back to marbles, it’s probably more your game.

Randolph was also 1/4 from deep. He didn't shoot the shit out of like some players in the NBL do when they get hot and there have been some players who have been unguardable like that at times this season. Randolph’s effort was a great game, but it wasn’t unguardable.

" are not underestimating the coaching ability of Gleeson and his to many championships compared to you"

Are you thick? No one is saying Gleeson is a bad coach or that he is overrated. He had a bad game and got out coached. It happens, just like players have off nights so do coaches. Rewatch the tape and watch the interaction between Gleeson and Shamir at the end; Gleeson was pissed because he got owned by an inferior coach. It will be interesting to see how he and Perth bounce back.

"Rewatch the tape and watch the interaction between Gleeson and Shamir at the end; Gleeson was pissed because he got owned by an inferior coach."

And now you're a mind reader.

You clearly read body language just as poorly as you read basketball systems. The Wildcats might have great fans but with local knowledge like yours it's unsurprising you end up with locals that play defence like Johnson and Pinder.