Geoff
Years ago
So Bulleen, Sunbury, Hume, Hawthorn, McKinnon, Casey, and Keilor have all been mentioned on this forum apparently going NBL1 next year.
Realistically who might go up?
Keilor or Hume City.
Realistically, Hume City should have been accepted before Eltham given how horrible Elthems womens program had been for many years prior to NBL1. Pretty sure they finished dead last in their final year in BigV Champ.
NBL one and big V championship is a complex balance. the clubs that don't have an NBL one program lose their talent to the clubs that do.
NBL one clubs have to spend money to attract the players and have very few of their own juniors playing so becomes a journeyman program rather than a club program.
Then you have the additional expenses of the NBL one program. for the Victorian clubs there is a lot of travel cost which did not exist for the big V program. My understanding is a trip to Tasmania a trip to South Australia and a trip to Albury Wodonga.
Does NBLone still have the requirement of having both gendered teams?
Casey and wyndham.
All about off court and locations.
I reckon the question should be "which clubs are going to drop back down" Expense, compliance, competitiveness?
anonymous
Years ago
Surely not Casey. Not because they are a quality program, have great facility, any of that. Just based on location. In close vicinity you have Dandenong, Frankston, Sandringham, and somewhat Knox/Kilsyth/Eltham etc...
Depending on how many clubs are being looked at, surely it is one or more of following:
- Hume - decent facility, men and women typically strong performers, location in the west.
- Keilor - good facility, men and women typically solid, location in west
- Wyndham - fantastic facility, location in growth area, men program not strong is a hurdle
Bot really in contention:
- Bulleen - no facility apart from high school, men in D1, poor results for their senior program
- McKinnon - if adding teams from this location has to go to Casey
- Sunbury - men only just added to CM.
- Hawthorn - senior program really struggling. Without know the internals, it appears club really struggling financially.
My opinion is that you basically disolve the BigV CM division and take 6 clubs that make sense for sustained on court performance, location, facilities, financial commitment etc into NBL1.
Then the remaining 4-5 clubs return to Big V Division 1.
Although a lot of clubs say that they want to join NBL1 the past 3-4 years should indicate if they are able to. Hume, Keilor, Wyndham, Casey, McKinnon are probably right there.
The other thing to consider are the clubs that might withdraw or be dropped out of NBL1. Surely DV, Melbourne, Knox? are a bit shaky???
Clubs that could drop out: Eltham/DV/Melb Tigers are the obvious.
Clubs hat "Could' come up: Wyndham/Hume/Keilor/Casey
Wyndham - They make the most sense if the finances are right.
Massive Growth Area in West, Facilities and on target to have one of if not the largest junior participation base in Australia by 2030 (Note Casey aren't far behind). Not other NBL1 rival club on that side of Melbourne.
Hume - As a club they've been around along time but its not exactly a basketball hotbed and is the support really there to step up?!
Keilor - Similar to Wyndham but they are a bit further removed from the growth area and its not a basketball hot bed so is the drive there to step up with the financial backing?
Casey - See Wyndham but they have Dandy/Kilsyth and others in teh East/South East so plenty of clubs already in that catchment area so does this really make sense?
You need to have both Mens and Womens to go NBL1
Sunbury surely in the box seat. Good history of success at that club over the last 25 years. Geographically makes sense. Growth area. Men on top of state champ at the moment and the women doing really well as well with relatively young rosters
Then either Hume or Keilor who have both previously been at that level (SEABL)
The others probably need to wait a year or 2.
Agree Sunbury should be next up. But do they want to?
One of the big questions is still the cost of NBLOne for the clubs. SEABL died due to the costs. What's the cost that has to be covered? Is that money just coming out of the Jr program
McKinnon don't have the facility to allow going up.
Maybe all Big V will be in a new NBL1 comp. Share the financial load and open up the Vic pathway.
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