What happened to Webber?

Laughing at the Eastern write up

Andrew Webber has done his ACL

North have signed McVeigh and dech so surely get the same if not more love than south

I haven't seen any announcements to that effect?

Fair attempt giving the usual lack of information from Clubs and BSA.

36ers commitments will mean they will miss a big part of the season, even without NBL Finals. Hulland & Mudronja (South), Dench & McVeigh (North) are locked in. Be interested to see if Humphries signs somewhere given his multi year contract and after such a long off season in 2020 will DJ suit (eagles or elsewhere).

The BSA decision to drag out the season over the longest time frame of all NBL1 Competitions highlights once more how out of touch the organisation is. Clubs mad rush in the last few weeks til Round 1 also another byproduct of the season starting way too early for the number of games being played.

Hopefully BSA manage to find enough referees to cover all the games unlike their also re branded but worse quality ML Div 1 & 2 games every Friday night. No doubt once again we'll be blooding 14 year old kids and referees with 1-2 years experience onto the top level while what's left of the senior guys and gals are forced to double up reffing Women's and Men's games in the one night. Centrals must be looking forward to another season of spot the rookie.

Based on the limited knowledge I have of each roster I'd predict a final ladder of:
MEN
Forestville
Woodville
Sturt
North
South
West
Norwood
Southern
Centrals
Eastern

WOMEN
South
Sturt
Forestville
Norwood
North
West
Eastern
Southern
Woodville
Centrals

Considering the top 5 referee's will all be on NBL duties till June doesn't bode well for the above comment relating to sourcing referee's. Add that to locals servicing NBL1 South MTG games and it could get very ugly.

And 1 off to Tokyo.

Yes but her tournament only lasts 4 days so she will only miss 1 round

I agree with the prediction of #942. Be interesting to see what imports do get to Adelaide on-time with quarantine measures. Might be a slow start to the season.

#948 - She'll miss more than 1 game as she'll have to quarantine upon her return. She'll miss 3 - 4 games at least.

Young refs are being pushed thru way too quick and need to "learn and earn" the top games. Dealing and communicating with coaches instead of just throwing T's around is absolutely absurd for senior games at this level. Talk to them and earn their respect and they'll give it right back unless your clueless and talking to them you'll know you'll put your foot in your own mouth. If they mouth off disrespectfully then shove it to them.

Problem is BSA has treated SOME senior refs with such disrespect and they've walked away from the game, moved state, etc. Burning them out doing too many games during the week also. It's going to take a long time to fix this mess.

#950 we forget she doesn't make herself available anyway so it's semantics really

No senior ref's worth any value have moved interstate. None.

Aylen*

Durant
Grigoul
Troy
Starkey

What is aba?

It hasn't been the aba for a very long time

Griguol has done over 30 games now (nearly 20 this season if my memory serves me right). He will pass Durant very quickly. The other 2 are still under 15 games I think. Aylen has been in SA since around 2015 as a guess.

hahahaha

Good to see Simons back playing alongside lightning's Basham

South women great coach, loads of talent... why not?

Olivia Thompson

It was on his Instagram.

#965 thanks for posting Nathan

The big question will be what record will north and south have by the time the 36ers are available to play

Will it be over or will they be still a chance , let's say the 36ers are good from around round 8-9

That depends how many wins you think they will need to make finals.

South won't be a problem I’d suggest. They have Starling, Johns and the rest. North are the big question mark.

What are the player restrictions this year. Ie how many Imports / NBL players can you have in a team

What will North do with Dowdell? Dech would certainly qualify as restricted player, but will McVeighs jump in minutes also rule him out, or will North have to use Forestvilles lawyers?
And everyone is saying because South have so many juniors, they can afford all of these signings, but surely there's a limit. Down an imports wage, but the rest would be on good coin. And is Starling and Johns playing footy? Does anyone still have article where Petty said part of his culture building was to play and develop South juniors?

Desantis has de-committed from Mount Gambier and shofted back to Adelaide. Has signed with Eastern Mavs and will solidify their point guard position boosting them up the power rankings for sure

If that's true, boosted them to second last place over Centrals.

Norwood won't make top 5

Desantis de-committed? Try injury champ and out for the rest of the year.

I have it on good authority he faked it to get out of a shitty contract in the mount for a better one at mavs

"What will North do with Dowdell? Dech would certainly qualify as restricted player, but will McVeighs jump in minutes also rule him out"

I think from memory Australian NBL non-starters won't be classified as restricted. I could be wrong, but regardless: McVeigh has already been ruled as unrestricted for North.

"South women great coach, loads of talent... why not?"

They lost to the Metro U18s, while Sturt beat them by about 50...

Due to the NBL season timing they used last years minutes to determine restricted players. Dech is restricted, McVeigh is not.

No one says you can't deregister a restricted player mid season. I wouldn’t be surprised some clubs to use that!!!

The late signing of Simons to the women's Eagles team puts them over the top, pairing her up with Basham. North and Sturt to challenge as the clear top 3. Forestville also have the best coach.

Whoever suggested South is laughable, like suggested earlier the state U18’s smacked them with Olivia Thompson suiting up.

Southern tigers women are top 2. Beat Sturt on Tuesday.

Because results from Summer Season Reserves games and Scratch Matches mean anything come the end of the season.

Quoting reserves game results lol

"Because results from Summer Season Reserves games and Scratch Matches mean anything come the end of the season."

You're right: better to use baseless opinions from anonymous posters than actual results.

Would be expecting near full strength teams playing Tuesday nights at this stage, but there seems to be a lot of players sitting out. And yes, I know some are committed with sixers, but seems lite on atm.

so you go with your results. I'll go with my knowledge of the clubs, coaches, teams, players, availibilty of said players, players yet to be announced, history etc.

I'm not saying you have to agree with me, just saying I don't take results in a pointless money making competition or a State team trial game as relevant. That's me.

Baseless knowledge*

Because nothing prior to the NBL1 season is relevant, remember?

^Please enlighten us with your wisdom of these new players since you know about every club and players availability. Or you just talking shit.

Top 3-4 players wouldn't play Reserves right now - why risk an injury in Reserves when the start of the season is just around the corner.

DeSantis is scheduled for a recon on his knee - don't know how he is faking that to go play for another team.

It should be a good season and I'm sure with regards to the refs - this will be watched very closely seeing that most games are all recorded. There will be an uproar if there is substandard refing when the clubs are forking out quite a bit of $$$$ for their players. Someone's head is going to roll if they get it wrong.

Hahaha reffing standard has been well below par for years. The person in charge got promoted.

Ummm, why do teams play practice games for??? Its happened since day dot that most teams trot their full squad out for last few games of reserves in summer.

BSA just does not have the cattle in the referee stocks. It's as simple as that. You have your top few (who will hardly do any games this season least of all the 70% requirement to referee finals) and then you have the rest with one or four below them who may have some form of promise. Other than that they are all domestic level referee's. Add that BSA will help service MTG games and the pool is very thin. And I am not sure who is going to coach them or watch them carefully as there is no one to do that. Gee during the COVID season they stopped doing video clips because people couldn't take feedback.

NBL1 Central is in for a world of pain.

BSA don't have the referees because BSA has failed to train and keep them. 1000s have started and nearly all have quit for one reason or another. Those that are left are not developed or trained.

The players and clubs suffer because BSA once again fail in their duty to the game.

And no one is held responsible and nothing changes. Just keeps getting worse.

Doesn't help when the head referee development job keeps getting handed from mate to mate.

BSA shouldn't allow it to happen. They've let down many referees regarding reports and behaviour issues.

Yes because there's a line of people wanting to be a Court Supervisor

Didn't realise this was the refs power rankings thread.

Can’t see anything but Forestville top however who joins them will be interesting.

The sport in SA will continue to impload and slowly die unless BSA is cleaned out again, but this time staffed with people that have basketball admin experience, paid enough and a budget that is designed to grow the game.

BSA is a generational little boys club that will never change, lurching from one disaster to another with zero accountability, hiding behind their surnames.
That's why the game in SA is a mess and people continue to walk away en masse.
Sad and unfortunate, because basketball is a great game, with unlimited potential to grow in this state, but it’s the truth.
Time to get some proper basketball people over here from Victoria to take control of BSA management and HP & get rid of the incompetent circus that is running it at the moment.
Too many people out there saying the same thing, everyones fees are paying their wages and they deliver nothing in return.

Starts at the top. Board have done nothing. CEO doesn't even know a thing about basketball. That boys club can do what they like as no one above them understands how bad they are.

Elite successful organisations- don't get the best available, get the best.
BSA-don’t get the best available, get your mates.

BSA...why would I go to the market when I can give the job to a mate that isn't qualified. That just sounds silly lol

Going to the market isn't the solution either. They need to headhunt the right people to fix their problems. Biggest issue, they don't think ther are any problems.

Can people please start a thread about referees and how shit bsa is, all of recent comments have nothing to do with original post. Can understand the complaints but choose another post like bodysuits etc.

How surprising a Hoops thread went off topic. So unusal.

Who saw the team announcement pics for SA Metro?

I thought SA country ones were funny with Petty in there. I mean get someone of note there that actually played for SA Country or actually done something of note.

Then metro shows theirs. I mean seriously guys do not put some admin guy in the kid's state jersey presentation. Get a player or coach that is relevent to these kids achieving this acolade. At least Petty coaches NBL1. Another BSA clueless act without an regard for the actual athletes they're supposed to service. We want our state programs to mean something and BSA dish up this rubbish all the time. We will see what this funny business reaps now tournaments are back on.

Scott Butler? If you think he's some admin guy you clearly know nothing about junior basketball.

Keep circle w@&$ing the basketball public do not care and these athletes definately do not. Make it meaningful for them and reap the benefits for the game.

You mean Scott who is Pettys boss & has been on an Olympic staff?

536 congrats

You just posted the dumbest thing ever on Hoops, and that's really saying something.

Wow your kid made an SA team - who were your expecting? The Prime Minister?

I'm a Woodville fan and if Whitmore doesn’t get his team to finals then he’s definitely useless!