Anonymous
Years ago
https://www.bnsw.com.au/news_notices/nsw-athletes-selected-in-under-19-squads-for-2021-fiba-world-cup/
Does not include Nbl players or ncaa.
No
Giddey
King
Jones
Wigness
Bayles
Gak
Galloway
Woodhill
Price
Notoa
Valenti-paea
THE GEMS SQUAD FOR THE FOUR-DAY INTENSIVE CAMP
ATHLETE - HOME STATE/TERRITORY
Isobel Borlase – South Australia
Indiah Bowyer – Queensland
Lil Dart – Queensland
Kate Deeble – Queensland
Piper Dunlop – Victoria
Charlise Dunn – Victoria
Chyra Evans – New South Wales
Luisa Fakalata – Victoria
Alana Goodchild – New South Wales
Tess Heal – Victoria
Kitty Henderson – New South Wales
Nya Lock – Victoria
Dallas Loughridge – Victoria
Ruby MacDonald – New South Wales
Jade Melbourne – Victoria
Isabelle Morgan – New South Wales
Olivia Pollerd – Victoria
Gemma Potter – Victoria
Nyadiew Puoch – Victoria
Millie Prior – New South Wales
Lilly Rotunno – Queensland
Emily Sewell – Victoria
Shaneice Swain – Queensland
Jasmine Whatley – Victoria
Lauren Wise – Tasmania
THE EMUS SQUAD FOR THE FOUR-DAY INTENSIVE CAMP
ATHLETE - HOME STATE/TERRITORY
Ryan Abbott – New South Wales
Taran Armstrong – Tasmania
Clancy Bird – New South Wales
Dyson Daniels – Victoria
Sejr Deans – Tasmania
Bol Dengdit – Victoria
Joshua Duach – Victoria
Fiston Ipassou – South Australia
Evan Kilminster – New South Wales
Boston Mazlin – Queensland
Jack McWilliams – New South Wales
David Okwera – Victoria
Mason Perry – Victoria
Tyrese Proctor – New South Wales
Keanu Rasmussen – South Australia
Daniel Rogers – Western Australia
Patrick Ryan – Victoria
Riley Simmons – Victoria
Reyne Smith – Tasmania
Zac Taylor – Victoria
Harry Wessels – Western Australia
Olbrich, Griscti, Magok Manyang would destroy most of the guys in that squad.
The problem is there is no one with a respected voice able to represent these guys to BA as Tassie or Vic have and in the case of no Nationals they've all snuck under the radar.
Won't matter for these players or the game in general. These guys will all pass most of those selected by and have doneso already. It will just be yet another BSA failure we can all privately smile and joke about. Good ole BSA always good for entertainment value.
Correct. But I'd put more money on there not even being an event. Europe won't be ready in July. Very different state of affairs there to here.
I expect this group will also play the Asian Cup qualifier against NZ
May also have the u17 WC from last year this year.
6 double bottom agers in the girls, not normal.
Some of the recent selections to attend the NPP camp in Adelaide recently, especially on the girls side were just plain bizarre!
Low iQ - check
Can't shoot - check
No handles - check
Didn't perform at recent AIC tournament - check
BSA HP - perfect for us
anonymous
Years ago
Couple of the Vic selections are 'interesting'
I guess having a Vic coach with pre-existing relationship really helps...
What is the value of the boys' camp when 2/3 of the final team is likely to come from outside the 20 players they're bringing in? If it's a development camp, call it that. Most of those kids are not u19 WC contenders.
how can we put a dad in as the coach of a national team?? are we really that hard up for high performance coaches?
How offensive. He's an ex-NBL Championship winner. A Coach in his own right. The best candidate available. The fact he has a kid who also is a good player is irrelevant.
not irrelevant at all. Completely unnecessary to have a parent involved at that level. Debatable whether his kid is anywhere near the top 20 available.
You do realize the Coach doesn't pick the squad on their own.
losing Tsapatolis to footy reduces the depth in frontcourt.
Eventhough all are not on the list above, im going with...
6'8 02 Giddey-5’11-02 Wigness-6’1 02 Bayles
6’5 02 King-6’5 02 Armstrong
6’6 03 Duach-6’7 02 Galloway
6’9 02 Jones-6’10 02 Hornery-6’8 02 Adebayo
6’10 02 Okwera-6’11 02 Gak
I’m going with a smaller mobile team for the girls, not alot of post depth in this age group.
Wise and rees are the only players over 6’3.
5’10 02 Melbourne-5’8 03 Deeble
5’10 02 Morgan-5’10 03 Swain-5’9 02 Paea
6’1 03 Price-6’2 04 Puoch
6’1 02 Potter-6’1 03 Dunn-6’3 02 Pollerd
6’2 03 Prior-6’3 03 Evans
You do realize the Coach doesn't pick the squad on their own.
you've clearly never met/worked with DP
matthew
Years ago
There is no way Rees isn't being picked, she was a stand out at Oceania and is playing well with Utah, also has the surname that seems to help with those selections
So a coach can't pick his son? Maybe tell Lindsay he shouldn't have picked Andrew.... Most coaches at the time end are more critical of there kids is what i have found over the years.
Yes you will always get a kid getting into a higher team cause the parent is a good coach. Do we lose a good coach for the other 9 kids cause we don't want a conflict?
Rees in oceania.. not sure that means anything.
1. You are not comparing the Perry's to the Gaze's are you? Surely not.
2. You are not taking a situation from over 30 years ago and trying to convince us it has relevance today? Surely not.
Anon
Years ago
"Rees in oceania.. not sure that means anything'
She was also good for the COE and was probably the best performed in that team in NBL1. Good player who is up against quality bigs in Pac 12 weekly.
She is a long way ahead of the other bigs mentioned and was a starter in u17, she isn't going to go from all star 5 to missing out, The COE coach loves her (who is the assistant) and apparently THE SURNAME means a lot to these COE coaches anyway so always going to get picked and start
anonymous
Years ago
nothing against a parent coaching his own kid or being in the team.
If a player is clearly in the top 20, like Andrew Gaze, it is a non issue.
If he isn't then it is an issue.
It is not fair on this kid.
Musk
Years ago
Considering that last time dp was the coach of his son at a state level, vic metro handily won the gold and his son was a starter on that team, I suggest you all calm down about him potentially coaching his son. Not to mention he's been involved in coaching prior junior aus teams before so it’s not like the guy isn’t qualified. Plus as the op said, there’s no nbl or ncaa players so that’s a decent chunk of guys not playing so there needs to be some extra guys who may not typically be in a squad like this for numbers purposes. Also it’s just the squad not the actual team, so just relax and as said earlier he won’t be picking the team by himself.
you're missing the point Musk, it compromises the whole process. I go back to my original question, are we that hard up for High Performance coaches that we need to have a coach who has a child in the age group (in the realm of the squad) coaching a junior national team. you would hope the answer is no.
agree with anon. Coach should stand aside if child in age group.
Australia has many talented coaches available.
Creates unconscious bias. Tough for selectors and assistant coaches to be able to criticise coaches son, or alternatively prefer other players. Player will always wear the mark of making a team or squad due to daddy.
Musk
Years ago
Would he be my first choice of coach anon, probably not, and I too don't like the premise of a parent coaching their son, however there are times when it’s understandable as dp is a damn good coach in his own right, he’s been around the junior national teams for a few years now so he’s a good coach plus he’s qualified (success at rep, state, national, ex nbl player, seabl/nbl1 levels as a head coach). His son has been involved in the vic metro program for a few years now and is talented in his own right, plus as the op said due to some guys not being available, he might just be there to fill some numbers for the general squad and he’ll have assistants with him to pick the team so it’s not like the kid is a lock. I also wouldn’t be surprised just with covid some other coaches may be trying to be safe and healthy particularly some of the older ones. My point being yes it’s not exactly ideal, however considering who’s involved it’s not a big deal, now if the kid gets picked and dp is trying to make him the starting pg and he clearly can’t hack it, then fine criticise him and the process then, but until that happens let’s calm down and wait and see as yes it’s not ideal but considering two talented individuals are involved then I suggest we just wait and see
Boris
Years ago
No way a parent should coach at that level these days, Especially not in juniors.
He's not in the Boomers for the Asia Cup qualifier in 10 days stop complaining.
http://www.fiba.basketball/news/latvia-named-as-host-of-fiba-u19-basketball-world-cup-2021
I reckon Daniels rise will push out Wigness from the team.
I think Giddey, bayles, Daniels + king and armstrong will be the guards. Wigness and smith to miss out unfortunately.
Maybe Daniels at 6'6 plays sf though.
anonymous
Years ago
Ok so this one has gone quiet for a while.
Victoria releases their 2 x teams for the U20
One player invited to Aus camp doesn't even make either team as a top age player (was he injured, unavailable?)
The Aus Coaches son makes the second Vic team, so essentially is rated as 3rd best PG for Vic (if not lower) by the state selectors??? But makes the Aus camp???
And for Musk, I get what you are saying, but it really is a big deal. These camp invites etc all add to the resume and could help/hinder college aspirations etc
6 double bottom agers(all eligible again in 2 years). Pretty good sign for the next u19s also.
Isobel Borlase - South Australia
Lil Dart – Queensland
Tess Heal – Victoria
Dallas Loughridge – Victoria
Nyadiew Puoch – Victoria
Lilly Rotunno – Queensland
Should probably add Brazel to the list now and Daniels is now a shoe in.
U19 WC DRAWS
Mens group D - horrible draw for us...
1 Turkey
2 Mali
3 Australia
4 USA
Women's group A - done dirty again...
1 Italy
2 Australia
3 Egypt
4 USA
Anon
Years ago
Not sure how this is even still happening on the women's side, Hungary is in full Victorian style lock down. No way college kids are getting to the selection camp so I guess it will be a very weak team. Also not sure how the teams can get out without vaccinations
Anon
Years ago
Women's group A - done dirty again...
1 Italy
2 Australia
3 Egypt
4 USA
Pretty sure this happened last time, the girls lost to USA in first pod but then saw them again in GF
Women WC isn't until mid august. 4 months away.
Mens is in July Latvia and you have to be vaccinated by then.
Egypt should be easy. Italy I believe won euros U18 and USA are obviously favourites.
Anon
Years ago
Has to be a hub then. There are some countries in real crisis, not sure of the vaccine roll out in each country but they best use the full 4 months to organise.
Also August is when the majority of the squads will be expected at their now colleges for pre season. Interesting to see what happens with the few girls that made the team last time currently in the college system getting over to Hungary if they are picked without selection squads (dont think they will be) and you have also have the 2021 kids like Jade Melbourne who will probably have to get there then fly to Hungary or just delay getting there.
College games don't start till November, preseason is September/October
anonymous
Years ago
Have there been any camps yet?
If not, why announce list before u20 nationals where players can be evaluated
Anon
Years ago
Given the Vics dominate the 20's because they are a combined Met/Country team and most of those girls have been or are at the COE and their main comp are typically NSW and Qld who have also attended camps there is no way anyone is jumping from an unknown to making the team for the worlds.
Last time they announced the final camp before the u20's and there was uproar but the fact is they probably already have 90% of the team picked and are working through logistics. A stack of those eligible have already played WNBL from various states.
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