Anonymous
Years ago
Kendle to be 36ers new import
FFS JVG special incoming. What an insult to fans. Why bring in a cheap guy
Anonymous
Years ago
FFS JVG special incoming. What an insult to fans. Why bring in a cheap guy
Perthworld
Years ago
Jeremy Kendle? LOL wow I feel for Sixers nation.
koberulz
Years ago
You realise they're limited to guys already in the country, right?
#341 why? All the other imports in the league flew in.
Owners don't want to spend this season it’s pretty simple
Probably means he can play almost immediately. If their still looking to bring someone in could be weeks to make it happen.
Robateau from qbl seemed like a prospect. Better than kendle anyway.
It's likely he’s been signed as purely a temporary import till the replacement arrives. They really need an experienced point guard, ie what Sloan was supposed to be but was clearly not up to. Someone like Ware would be great
JMS
Years ago
Certainly puts pressure on Giddey to run the point as Kendle seems more of a budget off the bench combo guard. Not sure where the points are going to come from if DJ/Humphries are shut down. Crocker really needs to step up..
#342 I don't think you realise how expensive and hard it is to secure flights. There is no guarantee they'd get out here straight away - it could take weeks, not to mention they would have to quarantine as well. Much easier to get someone already in the country.
Perthworld
Years ago
Surely and hopefully for you guys Kendle is a placeholder otherwise Keeley is really taking the piss.
Kendle will produce more than what Donald Sloan showed in the first few games.
koberulz
Years ago
#341 why? All the other imports in the league flew in.Because it's been less than two weeks since they needed a replacement.
mimi57
Years ago
ACL 2019. Not lot of balling between then and now.. brings experience .. Will provide some additional.outside fire power ... ready to go ... JK
Anonymous
Years ago
Yeah and they getting rid of someone like Sloan.... sheeesh!
Is Kendle the most recycled backup import who can never get a gig to start the season?
Anon
Years ago
It's an extra body for 3 or so weeks until the new import is available.
Trimble had a DNP overnight coaches decision, has been getting less and less time. Plot thickens.
Bolt
Years ago
Owners don't want to spend? The rosters don’t reflect that at all.
robt
Years ago
Kendle sensible choice. He's here, in shape (trains regularly, I believe) and has "filled in" a few times which tells me that he is adaptable, flexible and can fit in quickly. Ideal, in many ways.
Robateau an interesting suggestion but look at it this way. You have Giddy, already. He is/was back-up to Sloan. Would you dump Giddy for Robateau? Then why would you replace Giddy's superior (Sloan) with someone you did not recruit in front of the "back-up".
Kendle fits that same arguement, I know, but Robateau much more of a project than a replacement.
To a certain extent, WMcW = Robateau (in this discussion).
Stef
Years ago
Should have just signed Marshall Nelson to come off the bench.
LoveBroker
Years ago
If COVID has really limited the options to Kendle or nothing, then Kendle is the obvious choice.
But I / We have watched Kendle at Brisbane and Sydney and whilst he is OK, he is not what a playoff aspirant team needs.
Stef
Years ago
Instant offense Marshall Nelson, if Sunday Dech can average 10ppg, Marshall will give you 10ppg in half the mins. Will be cheaper and not an import spot either.
Crazy. Nelson had his chance and shot 20%. Cant defend. Needs to be a point guard but not good enough to run a team.
Sunday is an elite defender, but Nelson is suppose to be an elite scorer that can't score at the NBL - or defend
Man someone bringing up a DP from Illawarra few years back haha
Ro Atari can play both guard spots and is 6'5. He’s improved each qbl season and once was an Adelaide dp.
Stef
Years ago
LAWL - Marshall got blackballed bcoz of a fight at a bar, not bcoz he isn't good enough. Has come along way since then. He kills all the Perth lads, Sunday, Grida, Travers, Shervill, Wani, all of them. ANYWAY we are comparing Marshall to Kendle and Marshall is better, younger and deserves another chance. Currently a pro in Iceland, but I guess all of you that have played maximum B grade at the local sh!thole know better.
people who've passed on bringing back Marshall Nelson:
- 'all of us that have played maximum B grade at the local sh!thole'
- all NBL coaches
people who haven't:
- Stef on Hoops
ME
Years ago
No, Kendle isn't the import. Coach Henry has said it's going to be a 6'8 combo guard
Hahah a bar brawl no one has ever heard of?
Please- if he was any good he would be signed. His not
Kendle is signed and quit his coaching job in Queensland
"But I / We have watched Kendle at Brisbane and Sydney and whilst he is OK, he is not what a playoff aspirant team needs." Jeez man get over yourself he's a fill in. Play off aspirant... again with the fantasy crap LOL!
My question is who selected Sloane? JVG or Henry Conner!
JVG chose Sloan and has chosen Henry against his wishes
If they have a bigger fish coming in, why would you bring in Kendle? Why not go with what you have until the cavalry arrives? Kendle doesn't shift the needle at all over the current players.
Anon
Years ago
Because you need enough players. A) for training and B) for injury insurance.
This is no different than Shaun Bruce coming in last year or the year before to cover for Moore (i think)
The most important thing is the import is signed sealed and hopefully delivered this week and is very good.
They have enough players , there is a former roster player training with the team at the moment. Such a dumb idea to bring in a zero effect player for such a short time.
Zodiac
Years ago
At full strength we're pretty guard-heavy but you've got to keep in mind we've currently without Sloan and Dillon. In that context the temporary Kendle signing makes some sense.
What I'm genuinely concerned about is if there is either no intention to sign a better import than Kendle, who is only back up guard quality in the NBL or that Kendle might offer similar production to Sloan so we just decide to keep him.
Keep in mind too this could be purely financial Sloan being an ex-NBA vet would've been on good money and I wouldn't put it past JVG especially now as a part-owner of the team to think they could save a fair bit of money replacing Sloan with Kendle for not much drop in likely production.
And it's now obvious they aren't making finals.
Anon
Years ago
Zodiac, The owner has stated he wants to win a championship. The roster isn't cheap and so far looks like the money spent on Hump is well spent.
Henry has stated yesterday on radio they're looking at a 6'6 guard.
Against the grain here but Sloan wasn't the worst signing at the time.
Henry tried to get him going and even went to his strengths that seen him stay in the NBA but Sloan couldn't do it.
Henry has stated that he wants to push the pace and give the team 2 options on offence. something Sloan couldn't do.
You'd hope now knowing whats needed this import is bang on.
Zodiac
Years ago
The owner has stated he wants to win a championship. The roster isn't cheap and so far looks like the money spent on Hump is well spent.
Anon
Years ago
Sobey left either due to the coach or wanted to be PG. While he was amazing Childress is old. So only Creek is the one who we're missing.
The club has gone and got the best 18 year old in the country, A defensive guard in Dech and signed the best Aussie big in the comp. All in one year.
Sloan would have been paid well.
At this stage get over Kendle. He's a body. They have stated they're looking at an import and the way they are spinning it he will be good.
Yes there is a piece or two missing to be the top team, but its a massive improvement from where we have been.
where we have been ...like the playoffs?
Hodgson , money
Creek , money and got screwed
Sobey , money and opportunity
Froling , Money and opportunity
Cadee, Money
Gibson , Money
Deng, Money
Childress, Money
Drmic money and opportunity
Money is a huge factor in players leaving.
KET
Years ago
Looking way too early to next year:
Humphries, Johnson, Dech, McVeigh + potentially 3 imports - Is the aussie contingent good enough that decent import combination can propel 36ers to a top 4? Or do they lack a good aussie and a servicable aussie?
I can't see Pinder, Teys, Dillon, Mudronja being in next years' squad. If anyone is, it's Teys I guess
Anon
Years ago
Playoffs last year?
where we have been ...like the playoffs?
Hodgson , money- not that good.
Creek , money and got screwed - correct
Sobey , money and opportunity - Had trouble with the coach.
Froling , Money and opportunity - Not that good
Cadee, Money - nice of the bench
Gibson , Money - nice of the bench
Deng, Money- not that good
Childress, Money - Where did he play after Adelaide? retired?
Drmic money and opportunity- not that good.
Money is a huge factor in players leaving. Over paying players is.
Half these players are at Brisbane. hows that going?
For those who are curious 11 former Sixers players are currently on other rosters.
Would be interested to know figures for other clubs.
Just another argument to sign South Australians first.
Big Ads
Years ago
As Anon #602 summarized, Sloane didn't deliver and, as many Sixer fans had hoped, his contract was cut up so both parties can explore better options (and earlier enough for the Sixers).
Fan pessimism is understandable (the owners of the Sixers haven't had a brown paper bag policy...sorry, side agreements,....sorry, paid up to max salary cap, for probably 15-16 years) but Conner made it quite clear yesterday:
a) Kendle (the assumed 'Local import') is a temporary signing; and
b) the import they are chasing is well known, being chased by a few teams, is in his early/mid 20's, can play 1 & 2, is athletic, and about 6'6. The player will push the tempo which Donald didn't do.
Perhaps Kendle stays, but this is not the Sixers preference at this point.
The message from Conner Henry in the Cornes and Hayes show yesterday morning was quite clear; the Sixers are looking for a player who is "in form" and will deliver more for the team than Donald Sloane did. Jeremy Kendle did not come across as a permanent solution for the Sixers, so I hope the Sixers can land their target otherwise things may change.
This provided me with hope the Sixers are still having a serious crack at winning this thing, notwithstanding all the roadblocks which may obstruct their efforts.
Zodiac
Years ago
They have stated they're looking at an import and the way they are spinning it he will be good.
Zodiac
Years ago
Contract status for our guys:
Under contract:
Johnson (2 years left)
Dech (2 years)
Mudronja (1 year)
Option for next season:
Humphries
Giddey
Free Agents:
Crocker*
McVeigh
Pinder
Teys
Dillon
Big Ads
Years ago
Maybe Hopson was in the frame, and Crocker was the fall back.
We know Hopson is currently employed and, the performances so far of each player have been somewhat similar, but probably costing the Sixers significantly less $$$$$.
I do agree with your final comment Z, you make your final judgement on actions not words, but let's see what they can deliver (while also appreciating getting serious talent into this country involves more than just money).
robt
Years ago
Re: "Just another argument to sign South Australians first."
Do you mean that in terms of the "local" locals they are more likely to stay close to mum & dad OR that the "local" locals are so bad that no-one else would want them so you'll get them cheap as you like. The payments may even go the other way?
"JVG chose Sloan and has chosen Henry against his wishes"
I hope someone keeps track of JVG's failed selections and Adel and Syd....
Zodiac
Years ago
Maybe Hopson was in the frame, and Crocker was the fall back.
robt
Years ago
As Kendle is currently Sloane's temporary replacement, and if the new guy is all he's supposed to be, is it possible that (Kendle) will stay and replace Crocker and come off the bench. No idea on Crocker's money but Kendle would be much cheaper and probably much better value.
Zodiac
Years ago
Quite possible and probably an angle we didn't think of either. Kendle would be a fair bit cheaper than Crocker too but I've seen enough of both to know Crocker is both a better player and a better fit for what we need. Dillon upon return could just about give us what Kendle will.
InsideKnowledge
Years ago
Hi guys, not a regular poster here but I've got some intel. As already stated Kendle will come in temporarily whilst the club sorts out the logistics and flies in the replacement who I'm hearing will be...
DJ Newbill
You would try and keep both options, they have been great. Let all the free agents go. Tasmania coming in could hurt recruitment though.
Zodiac
Years ago
Yeah alright lol
Newbill is signed in Japan but if true would be huge. He's a lot better player than people think he is look at how shit Cairns are not without him, elite at both ends of the floor especially defensively.
Don't get our hopes up mate Newbill would be the perfect fit.
Anon
Years ago
Not saying your mail is incorrect, but Henry said a 6'6 guard, possibly 22/23 years old and hasn't played in the NBL.
Nope, it won't be....
Kicking arse in Japan, 2 games in to the season. No way is he leaving.
Japan season been going for months, two games, lol.
NZ should have kept Newbill, he was gun there, you don't get stats for what he give you.
KET
Years ago
Option for next season:
Humphries - Re-sign!
Giddey - NBA bound
Free Agents:
Crocker* - Need better probably, ok as a third import?
McVeigh - Re-sign....just
Pinder - Bye
Teys - Re-sign as a 10th man
Dillon - Bye
KET
Years ago
C Humphries/Import Defensive Big
F Johnson/Aussie
F Import (3&D)/McVeigh
G Dech/Teys
G Import/Mudronja (if he is kept)
A team heavily weighted towards the starting 5 - splash the big bucks on imports
" splash the big bucks on imports" Why not get it right this season? JVG at his best (Re worst)
KET
Years ago
They've already got it wrong and would take too long to get it right - even then, too many average Aussies on the team regardless of replacing one import.
Jock
Years ago
Honestly, get rid of Teys - that spot should be secured for the best up and coming local SA talent or DP.
Crocker - would like to see a few more games, before further comment.
McVeigh - jokes around too much and his energy is not infectious!
Pinder - well, one word - 'shite'!
Dillon - again, what was the club's motive with this signing?
Mudronja - thinks he's better than he really is...and quick to bag others. Golden boy from Wright / Jantke era.
All the Rest - Have good merit.
two things is kendle looking at being a citzen and on nbl overtime cam suggested someone from china might be coming
Jock give up on the best up and coming local, this is professional sport. No space for this rubbish anymore
Yet again no one knows. Do people really think that Barry Crocker can play? He should have been the 1st one sacked.
Zodiac
Years ago
No Crocker shouldn't have because he would be on a lot less money than Sloan. It's unlikely you're going to find a better player now than Crocker for the money he would be on but you could almost certainly find a better player than Sloan for the money he was on.
Not all imports are equal. Look at Crocker really as a third-string import he's basically the replacement for Ramone Moore, Griffin's supposed big money has now been used to sign Humphries and Sloan was effectively the replacement for Randle.
Shano76
Years ago
Agreed Zodiac. I think the new import needs to be a gun, but we are missing a decent Aussie scorer, someone who can shoot the 3 and average 10-12 consistently. We lack scoring power, Isaac and DJ can't be relied upon to do it all. Crocker needs 12-15 and the new import needs to be a 18-20 guy. Even then we are going to struggle to post a winning score. At least our defence has improved this year (not hard I know!).
Dave
Years ago
A decent Aussie Scorer that can shoot the 3 and average 10 - 12 points a game?
Sounds like you are describing Sunday Dech pretty well.
Jay
Years ago
Fans are watching and paying they need to pay descent import...
Shano76
Years ago
Maybe Dave, maybe. Will be happy if he can score like that, consistently, he's definitely a brilliant defender. Still think another relatable local scorer could help, was hoping for Jack to be that guy.
Pinder is terrible. Terrible in defense and leaves his man constantly and hit and miss in offense. Needs a better hairdresser cause that's all he's worried about - how he looks.
Henry needs to get his voice back and stop yelling our offense on the sideline which tells the opposition what we are doing...feels like we are in youth hoops season.
Camel 31
Years ago
Looks like Pinder just wants to become a stand up comedian.
Jack should be and would be that guy if Pinder wasn't in his way. When Pinder is on court even if he is wide open his team mates dont pass to him, speaks volumes.
No background check was done on Pinder, talk to any former team mate and they would tell you what type of person he is.
Sixers
Years ago
"stop yelling our offense on the sideline which tells the opposition what we are doing...feels like we are in youth hoops season."
Yes because he is the only coach that yells the offense..... You do realise the players then yell out the offense so everyone is aware right? This happens for all teams. Every team will know their opponents core offense, even if they don't yell it out they can work it out by the structure.
Teys and Dillon have packed their bags and left. Both will find other teams for next season. Coach obviously doesn't want them there... bit sad for Teys considering he has been here since 2013...
I’m not sure what will happen with Alex Mud next season since he has one year left on his contract and the vibes towards him is the same as teys and Dillon.
McVeigh seems to have had loads of time preseason and since seasons start has dramatically gone down and even he doesn’t look happy to be apart of the team like the other team joeys. He too will end up somewhere else next season.
Zodiac
Years ago
I wouldn't be so quick to write off players the coach might not want around next season. Conner Henry generally doesn't hang around long at his appointments like only 1-2 years. I know he's got a 3 year deal but unlikely he sees that out.
IF Henry can choose his own team then he might be happier and stick around. Maybe a reason Caporn told them to shove it??
Zodiac
Years ago
And maybe JVG says no I'm picking the team you'll coach what you're given? Who knows, at the end of the season Henry may go back home to the US for a bit and decide not to come back and quit? Given his track record it's unlikely he's going to be a long-term coach of the Sixers.
I like what I'm seeing from him and how the team is playing under him but he does seem a bit flakey given his history like he's always on the lookout for the perfect job or something and if he's not entirely happy at one stop he quits and rolls the dice again elsewhere.
Teys & Dillon are one thing they're both right at the end of their careers and may decide to retire or play elsewhere at home or for a bit more opportunity but I'm not sure we should be letting McVeigh leave just the because the current coach doesn't seem to be a fan of him.
Only the coach can pick the players. You give the coach an out because they can say , well I didn't want these guys. A bit like Randle being forced upon Joey, was never going to work.
Henry likes solid defence, McVeigh struggles on that end, very streaky shooter also. Still reasonably young though and can take time to adjust to new coach.
Perthworld
Years ago
Henry is a journeyman coach because he gets sacked rather than being picky and quitting. Beggars can't be choosers.
So Kendle will be their import for the whole season? Or he's just here till they find someone better?
Can understand Mcveigh's dismay at being played behind Pinder, perhaps the worst 36er in history.
Zodiac
Years ago
Henry is a journeyman coach because he gets sacked rather than being picky and quitting. Beggars can't be choosers.
Zodiac
Years ago
"A number of us have worked with Jeremy in the past and he is a top-flight human being and a talented player. While we continue to look into roster options, we are delighted that Jeremy is with us now and we know he'll add to our program", Van Groningen concluded.
Master Chief
Years ago
It's so obvious that Kendle is a temporary replacement. He just happens to be an American but supposedly the best available player ready to go. Hard to say when the new import will arrive so gives the team something until he does
Seems like a decent guy who is willing to help out. Can't imagine he'd be on much money to make it worthwhile and also knowing he likely won't stay long.
Gives a bit more truth that maybe Sloan did decide to leave? You'd imagine his replacment would be in the country had this been well in the making but that's also a naive thing to say admittedly.
Zodiac
Years ago
Kendle was already in the country though ;) I doubt Sloan was the one that pulled the pin firstly it's a highly unprofessional thing to do and would be a black mark against your name for the rest of your career. You only quit on the team if they stop paying you, which happens in Europe from time to time.
I think it's likely more financial the Sixers needed to cut Sloan before his contract became fully guaranteed after the 10 game/2 month deadline and Kendle could likely give the team similar production at a fraction of Sloan's price until an upgrade on Kendle is found.
Master Chief
Years ago
Zodiac, was just saying that Kendle happens to be an import because you don't necessarily have to be an import to be a fill in player.
Would it be a black mark on his name? I don't think an NBA veteran at 33 would be too concerned about that. I'm sure plenty of players, playing away from home have requested releases for various reasons. I don't think it's unprofessional at all, just business from the perspective of the individual player and not really different to a team releasing a player. I see what you're saying though, it wouldn't look good for someone to be constantly in and out everywhere they went but I don't think that's the case with Sloan who is a reasonable name in the basketball world and is at the end of his career you'd assume.
Zodiac
Years ago
Well yeah it usually is I mean I guess it depends on the team and their circumstances. I can remember two imports in recent years that asked to be released by the Bullets, one they were livid about (Buford) and one they were accepting of (Holt). Look at Ramone Moore for example he hasn't been signed by anyone since he quit on the Sixers 12 months ago.
Sloan only just turned 33 a few weeks ago I don't know what is up with the guy but he should have a number of years to play yet before retirement. He sure played like he was 37-38 though.
Perthworld
Years ago
Nah he got sacked fromm the Perth job and likely the Orlando Magic job but it seems for the most part he quits, a bit like a Larry Brown always on the hunt for the perfect job and if there's something small he doesn't like bang quits walking away from his contract.
Zodiac
Years ago
That's an extremely odd take on Henry's standing as a coach - up until recently he was a barely hireable NBL assistant and you claim he can pick and choose projects like someone of the calibre of a Larry Brown. Sixers are the first to offer him a real shot and I suspect he was cheap knowing JvG and Keeley.
Perthworld
Years ago
I'm well aware of his roles but those were D-League gigs and once he made it to the NBA as an assistant it only took one season for his career progress to go sideways into scouting. Scouting isn't coaching and he's been out of it for four years. Goorjian is far superior, it's not even a comparison. We've had characters like Dean Demopoulos arrive in the NBL who had over a decade of assistant coaching in the NBA on his CV before coming here so your assumption is flawed.
Why would Goorjian be looking up to Henry? Odd comment indeed.
"Why would Goorjian be looking up to Henry? Odd comment indeed."
I suspect Henry Conner is a bit like Scott Roth. Well travelled but can they actually be a Head Coach.
Perthworld
Years ago
Why would Goorjian be looking up to Henry? Odd comment indeed.
Is Henry taller?
Love that the Sixers are spending so much and now have been found out. Will JVG last 1 season?
Perthworld
Years ago
Don't forget JvG is a part owner now which would complicate things even further.
in the off season along with the other American faker
JVG did not have a lot to start with, in saying that his imports, Pinder and now Kendall is mind boggling. Imports can always be a bit hit and miss, Kendall and Pinder are probably favours owed.
"Love that the Sixers are spending so much and now have been found out. Will JVG last 1 season?"
Considering most of the posts in the ladder prediction thread weren't predicting them to finish top 4 (some predicting dead last), I'm not sure how they've been found out.
mimi57
Years ago
Chose to see what want to see. Sixers had left Mcvay teys Mud Dillon hardly all stars.. DJaaaa - all star.
JVG brought in Humpty and Giddy Up - All stars
Crocker / Dech - not been worst players by any stretch
Pinder seems like has a role -
So Sloan rates a -
Give Kendle a chance
So really think JVGeee very much in the credit
KET
Years ago
" Pinder seems like has a role - " - to do what? Underperform?
Kendle won't be playing their first game in the hub. Injured.
Doyle to make up the numbers for training. Seriously, did anybody do any due diligence before signing Kendle??
Q: Did anyone do any research before gobbing off on Kendle? A: No one.
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