Isaac
Years ago

John Wall buying ownership stake in SEM Phoenix

"[Stein] John Wall is buying an ownership stake in the South East Melbourne Phoenix (@SEMelbPhoenix) in Australia's @NBL, @NYTSports has learned Wall joins an ownership group headed by LA-based entrepreneur Romie Chaudhari and featuring several current and past NBA players"

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KET  
Years ago

Wonder how much capital all these NBA players provide for the club

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Genuine question: what's in it for the players? Obviously, the clubs and NBL get a lot (marketing, exposure, recognition etc if not $). But if you’re a player why are you doing this? I don’t think NBL teams yield great returns (if anything!) and there’s limited capital growth in a relatively small market.

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Aussie  
Years ago


Genuine question: what's in it for the players? Obviously, the clubs and NBL get a lot (marketing, exposure, recognition etc if not $). But if you're a player why are you doing this? I don’t think NBL teams yield great returns (if anything!) and there’s limited capital growth in a relatively small market.

I could be wrong but I think a lot of players like the idea of owning/part owning a club because they love basketball.

It's a bit of a hobby for them. They learn about how business works too. They aren't in it for the money

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Zodiac  
Years ago

That's right they get to brag to everyone they know they part-own a basketball team and at the same time have the opportunity to learn how to run a sports team for the future when they're retired it might be an avenue they wish to go down.

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KET  
Years ago

It doesn't hurt to establish a working relationship with the likes of Chowdri

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They don't contribute any capital...its effectively a gift for marketing.

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KET  
Years ago

Do they actually do any marketing

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How many of them are ever here to "hey learn about how business works" I call BS on that suggestion.

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sixtiesrockstar  
Years ago

It's not huge money for them compared to what they get paid, so is it something of a tax concession for these guys as it is an instant loss on earnings.

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BALLER#3  
Years ago

I honestly wonder if any of these players put actual money into this or its more the case of we will give you 5% ownership for a few shoutouts and a visit once a year.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

I would be surprised if it were even as high as 5%.

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Gay Rordon  
Years ago

I have it on good authority that all the big time NBA guys get quite a fair bit in return for allowing their name to be used for clout chasing by the Phoenix.

-FREE subscription to NBL TV valued at $5 AUD per month

-An SEM Phoenix goodie bag with awesome merch. Can you really put a value on a game worn Adnam or Stephens jersey? Or a "game worn" Armstrong one that smells like it hasn't got a drop of sweat on it?

-25% of all purchases made at the stadium cafeteria. That's less than a hundy for 2x beers and a hotdog.

It's really quite a deal.

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Gay Rordon  
Years ago

I have it on good authority that all the big time NBA guys get quite a fair bit in return for allowing their name to be used for clout chasing by the Phoenix.

-FREE subscription to NBL TV valued at $5 AUD per month

-An SEM Phoenix goodie bag with awesome merch. Can you really put a value on a game worn Adnam or Stephens jersey? Or a "game worn" Armstrong one that smells like it hasn't got a drop of sweat on it?

-25% of all purchases made at the stadium cafeteria. That's less than a hundy for 2x beers and a hotdog.

It's really quite a deal.

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Curtley  
Years ago

Serious question - are WNBA clubs worth more than NBL clubs?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

C'mon, it's like a bunch of blokes buying a 1/20th share in a racehorse for a grand or so. Guy at work bragged how he owned a racehorse, then came clean. I think it's best finish is 7th in 5 starts, won't be long before it's in a tin of chum.
Be exactly the bragging rights Wall and others will have, I own a pro basketball team in league where Melo hooped. Unfortunately for him the Phoenix will probably have the same return of the horse.

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LoveBroker  
Years ago

Very few clubs if any make money these days.

So the driver to own a club (partial or wholly) isn't for wealth creation.

Its probably a hobby, but nonetheless it is great to have John Wall's name join the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Michael Harris played more minutes for Sixers last season than Walls played in last 2 years.
And apparently he's outraged that Washington announced they're building around Beal so demanded a trade.

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Jeff  
Years ago

Think this is a great thing for the NBL and the club. So what if an NBA star wants to attach themselves to a product. Shows the confidence and faith in where the league is positioned globally and the clubs direction. It's good thing for the NBL and the Phoenix. Celebs buy into brands for a whole lot of reasons, including it being a vehicle to other business introductions and partnerships.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think Wall found some loose change in the back of his sofa and donated it to his new team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Celebs buy into brands for a whole lot of reasons, including it being a vehicle to other business introductions and partnerships."
So how will this play out if they are never here?

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robt  
Years ago

"So how will this play out if they are never here?"

Will hardly matter, now. With all the "virtuality" going on through-out the business, personal, sports and any other world.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I don't think that Virtual stuff helps in this case. You need to be hands on IMO to gain that experience.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You don't need to be onsite to network. Think of who else is in the Phoenix ownership group that might open doors for him.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oh it was learning to run a business earlier.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So Childress, Wall, Exum, have money in, who else.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Zach Randolph too.

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