Goodbye Melbourne it's been nice.
Hope you find your paradise.

Well this is just terrible.

Hope no one else in Melbourne gets this and these 2 a speedy recovery.

Sucks to be in Victoria.

yooooooooooooooooooo WA open the borderzzzzzzzzzzzz pls

This is what really has me concerned about the NBL season. Victoria is basically a basketcase at the moment with covid-19, the AFL can afford to relocate the Vic teams and not play in Melbourne anymore however the NBL likely couldn't.

We're about to hit August so only four months until the NBL season is due to start I just can't see it being all cleared up with full stadiums by then.

Doom and gloom is how people roll here.

Time for Victorians to get their shit together. I see NBL season going ahead .

They will move the Melbourne teams to a hub.

That is the obvious answer isn't it. Not hard to see?! Very likely they'll play in hubs just like the AFL. SEM and United will be flown to a hub. Isolate for 14 days then begin the season.

Doesn't take a genius to see that's how it will work.

The majority of revenue comes from tickets. Hubs wont work for the NBL.

Hubs only work because of the TV deals.

Apparently they did door knocks in Vic today and 29 ppl infected with COVID weren't home to answer...

Out spreading it possibly.
For the Victorian teams start them with a road game stretch.

Yeah, I think frontload their road games and otherwise have them in a bubble with minimal or no crowd. Might not have much choice.

OK, front load the season for the Melbourne teams... but you're talking about saving weeks whilst we are still months out from the season. The NBL needs a contingency plan but its gotta be better than front loading a season. The NBL needs fans showing up to games in Victoria.

No, this is why a "bubble" won't work, since they have brought the virus in from elsewhere. It's why I was mazed they were allowed to continue training.

Nor does it require a hub.
My daughter is in Melbourne, she is doing it tough. Her friends have Corona, and she is in isolation on her own. People are dying, so my heartfelt prayers and sympathy go out to the people of Melbourne.
And yes, honestly, if we miss out on a bit of NBL, well there are far worse things happening.

But, hypothetically, if Melbourne were to be the only problem, then relocating two teams is not a huge problem. Send one to Hobart and one to Launceston, try to drum up a bit of NBL buzz, and the league can continue.

Yes the loss of revenue will be acute, but they may well be in a situation where "some revenue" is better than "no revenue".

If instead you wanted to front-load their season with away-games, then I suppose relocate them somewhere central for training purposes.

And remember, these are basketballers, the idea of leaving family and travelling the world to play is nothing new. They're not a bunch of Victorian footballers who cry every time they have to leave mummy.

The contingency plan is that they would bubble the players and they would play in an empty stadium. Not sure they have any other choice for Melbourne teams. Yes, they can't survive off TV, but the alternative is the players sit and the league drops two teams for a season. Maybe the Melbourne clubs can choose.

Wouldn't surprise me if we have Melbourne-scale outbreaks hit other states at any point in the next few months also.

Bubble won't work for the NBL. Change my mind.

Yes the loss of revenue will be acute, but they may well be in a situation where "some revenue" is better than "no revenue".

Exactly ^^

i am waiting for an outbreak in Adelaide after the Port AFL game last week when there were thousand crammed in with no social distancing or even masks.

Perth also in a fantastic position.
No community transmission.

For now. If the border gets forced open we'll be in serious trouble.

We know the date.
It's Wednesday too.

This solidified what the country already know. Victorians are brainless

Did these two go out clubbing after the first lockdown? What internal policies do NBL clubs have in relation to this?

Who cares

Covid cases don't mean jack.

Hardly anyone dies. They'll be fine.

Total beat up

You're a gronk #701

#795 good point I forgot VIC never eased restrictions.

* Goorjian
*here.

The contingency plan is that they would bubble the players and they would play in an empty stadium

You watch they will recover the same way as people with the flu does.

Mortality rate is about 0.5%

Imagine getting all upset over something that kills 0.5%, and most people don't even know they have it. Irrational.

Big dog you are so right. The whole world is getting played. Problem is people listen to the news and think they know something. If people would just do a little research.

We don't know what the long term effects of covid-19 are, even for those with mild/asymptomatic cases: https://www.smh.com.au/national/more-signs-covid-19-leaves-long-lasting-mark-on-the-heart-20200728-p55g4f.html

I would suggest that the NBL try and come up with a 1 year paid TV deal and renegotiate current broadcasting deals with ESPN and SBS (more years back ended free) that enable the clubs and league to pay the players and staff salaries, and costs to relocate teams if required during this years crisis.

If COVID is still around over the summer this year then people aren't going to have much to do other than sit at home and watch TV. The network surely should be able to get back their money plus some in ad revenue. Think about it the major sponsors are HJs and Bunnings, perhaps bring on a larger telco Voda, Optus or Telstra (Not AldiMobile), and a bank (thinking Westpac helicopter ads over summer)...

Organise the schedule to play prime time night games on alternate nights to the Australian Cricket schedule. Invest in additional content to draw in the NBA interest.

Must be all those minority groups I've seen on the news confronting Bunnings staff about not having to wear a mask. Oh wait...

Also no evidence at this point that people are immune once they've recovered

You would hope covid caused some ongoing damage, given the flap everyone is in.

It certainly doesn't kill enough people to warrant it.

1/4 of Victorians who have been diagnosed with Covid and tested positive are not at their isolation location. Let that sink in, 25% of confirmed cases don't give a F$$$ and are quite happy for the rest of Victoria to contract the disease from them.

There is another 40% of people with symptoms who consult health professionals and are asked to get tested and isolate awaiting results. They never get tested, likely never isolate.

Maybe China wasn’t harsh by welding shut community gates.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-victoria-one-in-four-positive-covid19-cases-not-self-isolating-daniel-andrews/f47901b5-9fcf-4610-83d0-102ac5760498

I had to check as I was hoping that FM was wrong about 1 in 4 positive people, unfortunately I gave Victorians way too much credit.

StatsMan - good idea. Hopefully they're working on something like this as a back up plan.

Any chance ADELAIDE can get the Grand Prix back? Worth chasing South Australians because Victoria won't be Covid low or Covid safe anytime in 2021 at this rate

650k. A dubious figure. 96% have "other" serious ailments. The median age of death is 84.

Besides, 650k is a rounding error.

Not worth getting knickers in a twist.

People arent idiots for not going into isolation. They just see things differently to you. Why should they lock themselves up. Covid-19 spreading is inevitable.

Nothing to fear.

Seriously bro, look up the stats. Come out from under your bed.

The modelling was all wrong. It's not that bad.

That 1/4 Melbournians should be charged.

50 billion NZ dollars on lockdown


We can't keep drugs out of NZ. How do you think we are going to keep a virus out that no one can see and has no symptoms and only 0.05?% die.

You've been brainwashed, but relax my friend, You are in good company. Plenty of others have also.

Bigdog - there's something called social responsibility. If we have smoking ban in public places due to high risk of lung cancer, why this would be any different? There is something also called criminal negligence. Hypothetically if you carry the virus and ignore the rule/recommendation and someone contracts it from you and dies, you are actually responsible - that person can be 80+, but it is still a person and that qualifies as involuntary manslaughter. Under the law, there is a huge difference between not knowing and ignoring.

And don't want to go back into statistics and modelling since it will be pointless.

I still believe that the economy will recover but we can't bring human lives back, regardless how old these unfortunate people were. Nobody wants to be part of that statistics, you included Bigdog.

Like I keep saying. 0.05% die. Mostly fat old people with other health problems.

We would be better to get people to improve their diet and life style than costly and pointless lockdown. And spend the $50 bill on something worthwhile.

Let's play some bball instead.

Alpha - you remind me of the lawyer on The Castle, Dennis Denuto. "It's the law". "It's the vibe".

"Alpha, I'm not agreeing with anything Bigdog has said but what you said is absolute crap."

Lol, why then the relatives of those who passed away after disembarking the Ruby Princess are suing the operators for criminal negligence and damages. It will be interesting if the operator uses the same narrative - 'they were too old and destined to die anyway'. It's already happening in the States and by the look of it the operator is prepared to settle - makes you wonder why.

We may come back to this topic in a few months when affected parties start digging further who screwed up with the quarantine breaches and relatives of deceased start a class action lawsuit against someone, likely the Government and Security operators. I'm curious what will happen if anyone in contact with those 3 girls who brought the virus to Queensland suffers severe consequences, will they do nothing? They've been charged for fraud already, creates intent. People sued for far less and won. And Libs today changed the tune and requested ankle braces for those who are tested positive or tested positive and breached the stay home order, something like that. I thought this would be only for criminals, but hey I may be wrong and talking crap as usual :)

Bigdog - I don't mind statistics but I'd rather be under the bell than an outlier.

#835

There are heaps and heaps of doctors and immunologists and epidermilogists and scientists saying the same as me.

Dr ioannidis and Dr Simone Gold to name some

#833

Yes I know. Just trying to help some people out. Challenge them to think a bit differently. Time to move on, I agree.

Alpha

Wise man once said long before covid "data will set you free".

Last thought - woke up this morning to news of man travelling from NZ to Australia tested for corona. There was one last week NZ to South Korea. It's inevitable to come to NZ.

I believe in low cost avoidance. Stay home from work when sick - yes. Lockdown - no.

Put another way. Look before you cross the road - yes. Hide under bed - no.

Let's play basketball guys. Athletes have a limited window.

Thanks to all the anti mask wearing xenophobic flogs telling us how the transmission of a global pandemic is all fake news.....
I thought this was a basketball forum but turns out its a meeting of qualified epidemiologists.
Hope Mitch and Joe get well

Locking down healthy people - which is the vast majority - to protect to minority of people who are vulnerable to the virus, is completely over the top, and basically a stupid strategy.

In a population of 90 million, Vietnam has 1 covid death. Their obesity rate is 2.1%.

4 deaths per 100000. Why not destroy the entire world s economy? It makes so much sense.