Anonymous
Years ago
Victorian Rep Club Rego Refunds
Given that the VJBL season has been cancelled, just wondering how much clubs are refunding?
Anonymous
Years ago
Given that the VJBL season has been cancelled, just wondering how much clubs are refunding?
annonymous
Years ago
With only grading games played anything under 60 would be a joke
Guaranteed this will send a couple of clubs broke. They have already spent the money.
How have they spend the money? What did they spend it on?
Interest on debt, staff, facilities if leased, contracts.
annonymous
Years ago
You would be looking to leave Geelong if they only refunded 25%. That is disgraceful
annonymous
Years ago
Geelong must be pocking its members money. There was 18 rounds and finals to go.
annonymous
Years ago
Southern Pen 50%. Looks like that's around the average. Anything above is a well managed club and below..... 25% well you can only assume that they inconsiderate and selfish or if they do need the money badly mismanaged
How you can not refund minimum 65% is beyond me. Play 9, out of a total of 27 games (9 grading, 18 regular season). so surely you are refund 2/3 of your fees.
For some VC teams they played less than 9 games.
50% is reasonable, the club has paid court hire for the team from October through to mid-March, so there's 5 months of court hire not used.
Any club offering only 25% is clearly looking after those who take money from the club rather than those families who put in.
Not a financial expert, but if all the clubs go broke the players will have to go somewhere. So surely "new" clubs would pop up and start afresh. Obviously players and families will be losers in not getting acceptable refunds, but will want to continue playing. And if court hire is in low demand, staffing levels decreased and other expenses reduced then the new season may be cheaper, purely hypothetical of course.
Maybe you should add Geelong have opened up Sunday training and putting on an alternative Friday night program. But you are absolutely right, if you unhappy don't come back. We are and will return. Cheers.
Anonymous
Years ago
Smart clubs would give 30-40% back and 10-20% discount for next year to encourage a return. Smarter clubs would give parents the option to redirect to fees for families who may not be able to afford next year - 20% back, 20% discount, 20% donation.
+
Years ago
wondering when decisions will be made on 2021 tournaments / seasons etc
Country club parent. No ball for my daughter but we have saved big time on petrol, Maccas and hair accessories. We will be back and PS our club can keep our fees.
Country club parent. No ball for my daughter but we have saved big time on petrol, Maccas and hair accessories. We will be back and PS our club can keep our fees.
Jo
Years ago
Those Vic clubs still need to pay rent on their facilities that many of them run on behalf of Council. Council and State Gov given some support, but there are some big bills to pay with no income from competition.
Anonymous
Years ago
Looks like Elthan only has to pay 50%. I guess that what all clubs will do other than Geelong who are still training. Surely all clubs have similar expenses
Not really comparing apples with apples. Tigers fee $700. Dandy $600 McKinnon $550. Just got them from the websites. Geelong and Sandy fees not on their sites. Relax.
perplexed
Years ago
Bulleen have offered us 35% off next seasons fees. No offer of a refund. I will be considering what I will do next year now and asking for my money back.
Western Port not giving any refunds because of their previous debts.
lol so many parents prepared to break kids hearts over the almighty dollar. Your club can do with out you if you not around for the right reasons. Oh then again the rules around clearances !!!!!!
Junior
Years ago
Nothing to do with breaking your kids heart or all mighty dollar, what a dumb comment. You pay your fees at the start of a season to play a season of Basketball. If that cannot be provided to you then you are entitled to a refund, its law. Some parents are not as well off as others so every penny would count to them. If you want to donate your fees to the club so be it but a part refund of at least 60% min should be offered
Grey area. Act of God clause. Sorry agree, basketball is an expensive game, cut your losses mum and dad as you will be back next season no matter what refund it discount.
NO services delivered. Entitled to a full refund.
We got in 2 phases of grading plus tournaments. That's not nothing.
Competition is the word. Certainly some refund is required. Grading really counts?
Fees mostly cover court hire for training, about half the sessions for the season going right back to tryouts were completed, 50% is fair.
Wow,the lack of understanding by comments on this forum regarding costs is unbelievable. Clearly not one person who has made comments is actually involved with an association as a volunteer and has knowledge of how community sport operates.
Anon
Years ago
Haven't received a cent refund from our rep association, nor any news as to what they are doing. Surely they will have received money back from BV, and should pass it along??
Wow!
So many selfish people only thinking of them and their pockets. We told our rep club to keep the fees for both our son and daughter.
Different if you lost your job or suffering hardship but the reality is so many clubs are struggling.
Take take take mentality. Victorian's are selfish and entitled by nature. That’s why Victoria is the only state with out basketball at the moment.
Anonymous
Years ago
I understand the overwhelming majority have refunded or at least said they will provide a refund - if your association hasn't then I guess they must be in some financial difficulty.
SND
Years ago
That's really bad if they haven’t even said anything. Understand if they can’t pay (well, as long as they have done what they could), but probs should say something.
Amazing how many anons hate whats happening and yet they fail to name any of their clubs. Yet we have an epert 'Perthworld' Contibuting jack shit to the convo.
Anonymous
Years ago
If you go to BV website they have a policy on refunds of rego - which is basically you need to apply for it. 2020 accounts will be interesting to read.
anonymous
Years ago
Can you please post the link re the refunds. Heaps of clubs have been named with what they are refunding if you look back through the posts. It is great if people are able to donated their fees back to the club but that should be decision made by the person paying the fees not the club. I am on a committee and we are not paying court fees during this time. There are also numerous grants that can be applied for to cover other costs. I would be hesitant to call people selfish for keeping their fees without knowing there circumstance. There is merit in asking people to donate their fees but it is not a our money to automatically keep.
Anonymous
Years ago
Link gone from BV site.
Clubs should not automatically keep funds. Football clubs have not.
Costs will have been lower, and government assistance has been available.
Try-out numbers, when we get there, will be interesting for those clubs who have been silent.
Rona2020
Years ago
Not all Vic junior football clubs have offered refunds. A lot of clubs have rolled over fees for the 2021 season. Bad luck if you decided not to continue with footy to focus on basketball or if you wanted to switch clubs.
In my opinion parents should be given the option whether to take a refund, roll it over for next season, or to donate to the club. Not all parents are in the same position financially, or may be looking to transfer clubs for other reasons.
Our club has been very silent on the subject of fees but has been using the covid break to update facilities. I don't believe they would be in any financial difficulty to not offer refunds.
Anonymous
Years ago
Aren't some clubs privately owned? Assume they’ll just keep the cash.
Ummm no Junior clubs privately owned. Do you mean Stadiums ?
There has been a ruling via the ACCC after a complaint that all sporting clubs that provided a "fee for service" must offer refunds if that "service" was not provided either in part or in full.
Parents would have legal grounds to ask for a refund.
LC
Years ago
ACCC: COVID-19 (coronavirus) information for consumers
Refer to "Local sporting clubs or associations" section.
Anonymous
Years ago
Well done to those clubs who did the right thing before being forced to do the right thing.
Anonymous
Years ago
Maybe that is why BV took down their post about no refunds unless you can show hardship?
Provided a refund? They've got a go fund me page
Anonymous
Years ago
Crikey. Don't think they are privately owned. I think the only one that might be is Tigers, but not sure.
Hoopie
Years ago
Hawthorn is NOT privately owned - they rely on funding from their rep, senior and domestic players, which is currently looking problematic.
Anonymous
Years ago
Dandenong are doing 45% if you want a refund and 55% if you roll it over to next season. I think that is very reasonable
Hawthorn are in a VERY deep hole, but they are not alone.
Anonymous
Years ago
If you didn't get a refund for 2020, why would you sign-up and pay for 2021 with continued uncertainty? A real predicament for clubs and parents.
Hoop star
Years ago
Consider yourself lucky as in NSW refunds are very low if at all as some clubs providing internal programs as a substitute. one club is refunding $200 from around $800 played and just 1 game played for juniors and some played 3.
One club who charged $1600 for a 14 week season is yet to decide what to refundif at all as they gave an extra training day but no games.
At least Victoria when this hit decided to do the right thing and cancel the season not do a half baked program like here which made the costs for clubs worse.
With this going on hard to see what happens with trials for 2021 as no one cn plan nd nothing from HQ.
State bodies face enornous losses and one state faces a potential revenue shortfall over 5 million so expect fees to increase.
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