Jack Wildcat
Years ago
Wildcats For Sale
As reported by Lachy Reid on Ten News surely won't take long.
Jack Wildcat
Years ago
As reported by Lachy Reid on Ten News surely won't take long.
Surely this is probably why Cotton got paid big $ been in the pipe line for a while.
He's worth roughly twenty times more than Bendat.
Sourbroker
Years ago
And he's got plenty more indigenous people to screw over and make a buck out of for years to come. Top bloke ol’ Twiggy.
Not many want to line up to buy it with league office have so much control and interest in so many clubs
Perthworld
Years ago
Bad time to be selling a pro sports franchise that relies on gate receipts.
Most NBL teams are an owners passion. If its about making money then most sport teams not just NBL are bad investments in many parts of the world.
Larry Kesselman to purchase! Rumour is he wants to collect the whole set of NBL teams!
D2.0
Years ago
Nah, just shoddy reporting. They are not "up for sale".
There is a deal, and it has been in the pipeline for a while.
Dr Jack heralded this well over a year ago. He wanted the deal done whilst he could still impose certain requirements on the new owners.
Which makes perfect sense. He wants to ensure the team continues its community and development work, and that the new ownership has deep pockets, just in case things go pear-shaped.
And no, I'm not claiming to know. There have been rumours, but I have NFI.
NFI again Dazz. Perth rely on gate receipts to make a loss. Pointless.
Lovebroker
Years ago
And he's got plenty more indigenous people to screw over and make a buck out of for years to come. Top bloke ol' Twiggy.
NFI again Dazz. Perth rely on gate receipts to make a loss. Pointless.
Every clubs rely on ticket sales, but only the Wildcats are consistently profitable.
"only the Wildcats are consistently profitable."
Not really, they openly admitted they only come close to making a profit most years and are reliant on finals gate receipts to do it.
Trevor Torrance
Years ago
yes D2.0 is correct, Jack has been trying to sell the team for a while now. Wanted 9-10 million at the beginning of the 19/20 season. I know he was talking to AV to try and get a group of investors together, but that never seemed to eventuate. I think selling to Twiggy is low on his list, but you'll never know and he seems to be proactive with the Western Force and creating opps for them!
KET
Years ago
It won't happen, but I would love to see a consortium of West Coast Eagles, a local businessman with a bit of capital and a 'basketball mind' a bit like the Hawks have in Colangelo.
WCE are just about the only club in the AFL, perhaps aside from Collingwood that are financially very, very strong. Perth are just about the only club in the NBL capable of spending what's required to build a championship team (see Cotton) while remaining financially stable.
Joint use of facilities, savings via de-duplication of roles and resources and they would have a nice Barcelona BC/FC type setup and Perth could possibly become marginally profitable year in year out.
Jack Toft
Years ago
D. Martin retires, next minute the For Sale sign is in the lawn of the club....
Sourbroker
Years ago
Are you certain I've done nothing to contribute to the indigenous community in Australia? Think carefully now...
As for Twiggy, shall we count the ways...
https://www.welcometocountry.org/philanthropist-determined-stealing-from-aboriginal-groups/
Sourbroker
Years ago
But wait, there's more. So much more and more and more...
http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/claims-twiggy-forrest-has-purposely-manipulated-pilbara-community
It should we just use examples from Twiggys own websites? That doesn’t sound Trumpian at all..,you tosser.
Sourbroker
Years ago
In fairness, ol' Twigs is just following on from fine examples that came before him...
https://dingo.news/voice/2020/01/26/andrew-twiggy-forrests-indue-card-continues-a-proud-family-history-of-exploiting-aboriginal-people/
Surely you can find something written in The Australian, or surely The Spectator, that shows Twiggy to be the indigenous Jesus...
Wilbur
Years ago
Wildcats must make the finals to be profitable, and make the grand final to extend profits. Renting Perth Arena isn't cheap. It's expensive.
The other option is HBF Stadium but that only holds 5000 and it results in a loss every single year unless they win the championship.
I would take with a pinch of salt any comment by any club about how much money they DON'T make each season.
"Wanted 9-10 million at the beginning of the 19/20 season." What a load of bunkum. Melb United was for sale for $10mill. Are you saying the Wildcats are only worth that? Bullshit.
Not sure why Twiggy cops a poor wrap?
Twiggy has done alot for this country no matter what many think of his work with the CCP
Twiggy has done a lot for Twiggy. Not big on paying tax or royalties from memory but hey, if the Wildcats need an owner he's got deep pockets.
LoveBroker
Years ago
Andrew Forrest has done a lot of philanthropic work.
Just a shame that a few need to invalidate that with words like stealing and exploiting.
Quoting dingo.news and welcometocountry.org as pieces of truth is just completely asinine.
Senator11
Years ago
"Twiggy has done a lot for Twiggy."
This, I hope Jack knows what he's doing...
Because he's done good things and bad things. I know that he takes his aboriginal history seriously and all FMG employees have a section on that in their inductions. He also set out to create a program where x number of jobs across his mine sites go to Indigenous people and he achieved it, and he gives back to the community with vocational training run by FMG.
But if he has also taken advantage of the communities as the articles Sourbroker posted suggest, then at the end of the day he's still in it for himself and his positive contributions are lessened.
His photo opportunity when purchasing the PPE from China to donate to Australia was laughable, but all mining companies have played a few political games during covid. They are seen to be doing the right things but they most certainly will expect favours from the government (ie fast-tracked approvals) in return.
Nostraballmus
Years ago
FFS merge with the Glory and provide year round exposure for sponsors, access to the supporter base for both football and basketball and minimse your operational overheads. You all know it makes sense.
Mobbin
Years ago
BAHAHA Glory... Only Euro & UK ex-pats notice that they are playing
Don't they already share some operational costs with the Eagles
Trevor Torrance
Years ago
Yeah that's all they are worth- their gross profit is only floating around 1.2 million a season on about 2.8 turnover. Definitely not worth anymore than 10million. You don't own a NBL team to make money! or any sports team really!
Sourbroker
Years ago
Of course it is. Indigenous people writing about indigenous matters. Must make your blood boil eh Kerri-Anne...
"their gross profit is only floating around 1.2 million a season on about 2.8 turnover. Definitely not worth anymore than 10million."
Instead of literally pulling numbers out of your arse why not just invent some so that they at least sound plausible
Trevor Torrance
Years ago
Not pulling figures buddy, seen them with my own eyes!
Perthworld
Years ago
their gross profit is only floating around 1.2 million
Lovebroker
Years ago
Of course it is. Indigenous people writing about indigenous matters. Must make your blood boil eh Kerri-Anne...
Lovebroker
Years ago
They make a profit !?!
Trevor Torrance
Years ago
It's called an NDA. Either way 10million give or take is a fair price especially in this climate!
LB, they said it publicly for a reason. Doesn't mean it is entirely true.
koberulz
Years ago
No they don't, they have publicly said they need to make a Grand Final just to get close to break even.No they haven't.
So last year not only did they lose gate receipts for Game 3, they had to still pay for Perth Arena.Game 3 was in Sydney.
Sourbroker
Years ago
White walkers. You're favourite I’m sure Kerri-Anne.
Why is it not factual, LB? Just because the case didn't get much play in the media, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Wilbur
Years ago
They need to make the finals to be profitable at Perth Arena. They had to win the championship to be profitable at Challenge Stadium.
Forget the shit that Kobe talks.
Here is is the quote from Bendant earlier this year.
"But when asked if team owner Jack Bendat, a member of The List - Australia's Richest 250, makes a profit, Georgiu says: "We get pretty close to break even if we can host one or two grand final games. We’re pretty close otherwise and we have some terrific support from our sponsors and our fans."
Source - The Australian :March 13.
The same article also says "The National Basketball League is riding a wave of enthusiasm and popularity, but with its nine teams set to lose $15m-$20m combined this year it is very much a work in progress in financial terms."
Take it with a pinch of salt. You think all the league owners are going to be running to the media to tell everyone they are making major profits and are dripping in NBL cash?
Wilbur
Years ago
Hold the horses. Kobe has been denounced. Holy shit. Kobe who pisses on everyone's shoes when they are wrong, gets it wrong himself. Today is a bad day for a helicopter ride.
LoveBroker
Years ago
For the guys that think the Wildcats are lying about losses.
What is the pay off for lying? They are trying to sell the business, wouldn't they want to pump up the business' prospects?
The Wildcats cannot cry poor to the NBL for league equalisation payments.
They aren't on the verge of VA, but don't think they are making a huge amount of profit. They have said from the very beginning that the breakeven point for being in Perth Arena is very high, they need something like 10k crowds.
I am open to them not telling the truth, but I don't see the angle.
The quotes from earlier this year, and the sale of the team, are not related.
The angle is, owning a sports team is about minimising tax payments. You don't want to be seen to make a profit, and you want your assets (player contracts) to depreciate over time.
If the break even point at Perth Arena is 10k, yet they get 12,500 to almost every game, that's 20% extra right off the top.
Break even point would be to cover costs of hiring the venue I reckon?
Wilbur
Years ago
Angela Bennett will be buying the Wildcats.
A great person, she will be a fantastic ambassador for sport.
She *might* be. It's just a rumour at this stage.
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