Who cares let them play

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"Who cares let them play"

What a fuckwit. You've just put yourself in the same stupidity category as Donald Trump.

Congratulations.

The 'let them play idiot' is probably Victorian.

Any links to the protests?

Andrew, you really haven't been paying attention to the world the past few months, have you?

What's the flu got to do with anything?

I heard a few players got a headache better shut it down!

Treat Covid like a hamstring, sit for 14 dats and we kep playing.

The world an't stop everytime someone gets COVID or we'll never get going again.

A bit of herd immunity and survival of the fitess isn't a bad thing

Isaac, your comment- "I'm genuinely curious because Hoops is the only place I've encountered it."
You must not have too many 20-35yo mums on your Facebook, so much antivax chatter these days it is ridiculous. Those poor kids!

A bit of herd immunity and survival of the fitess isn't a bad thing

This is the reason places like Victoria are screwed. There was a guy on the news this morning saying so what if I get it. I ain't stopping my life. He was asked what if get contracts it and gives it to his grandmother....he just shrugged his shoulders. Oh well. I'm tipping most people with the above attitude will think differently if and when it happens top them. How is that herd immunity working in the USA right now?

Two Phoenix Suns unnamed players tested positive also.

Based on the above are we to keep everything shut until zero cases in Australia?

Do the borders remain shut forever and we became North Korea of the Pacific?

Waiting for a vaccine isn't really feasible based on the fact it might never happen so we can't plan for "What if's" when running a league or country you've got to solider on.

"I'm tipping most people with the above attitude will think differently if and when it happens top them."

That's not really the most damaging scenario for these folks. It's the difficulty they'll have of finding an ambulance, hospital bed, ICU bed when they're filled with people with COVID-19. e.g., they have a serious injury or illness (not COVID-19) and need a hospital/ICU bed. People dying of septic shock because EDs are so overloaded that the sepsis wasn't detected soon enough, etc. Sepsis is one of the biggest killers every year, possibly the biggest. It's highly lethal and progresses rapidly (death often within 48 hours). Detecting it or not in ED or shortly after admission has a massive impact on outcome.

The other thing they forget is that the economy would be crippled by letting the pandemic loose. Picture most of your favourite restaurants and retail shops closing because too many staff are too sick or too frightened to work; some owners are too sick/frightened to open up; most customers are too frightened to go there and be served by apparently symptomatic staff. The imagine not being able to access welfare and support services for the same reasons; airlines closed down because not enough people are willing and able to pay for flights; similarly most of the travel and tourism industries; etc.

If some people feel frustrated by the current management of the pandemic, they would be devastated by the impacts on their wallets and lifestyles if we went down the "survival of the fittest" path.

PS - it's worth noting the COVID-19 impacts have been greater for men than women. The working hypothesis is based on a known biochemical mechanism involving male sex hormones (androgens). The androgens make it easier for the virus to penetrate cells within the body. Men usually have more androgens than women and children who've not yet reached puberty. So men get the virus more easily and suffer more severe impacts and a higher death rate. So the fittest in a COVID-19 ravaged world would be women and children below puberty. Interesting, given we're seeing quite a few, high profile, male athletes getting this thing now that the restrictions have been loosened.

"Based on the above are we to keep everything shut until zero cases in Australia? "

No it means we practice social distancing and take other precautions while there are active cases in the community, which most people seem to be able to do. If we see cases drop, we can re-open things. If we see spikes in cases, things will need to close down again because the potential for exponential spikes is massive.

"Based on the above are we to keep everything shut until zero cases in Australia? "

No. No-one is saying or doing that in government. And the restrictions that have already been removed demonstrate that. Hell, we didn't even close 'everything' when the most severe restrictions were in place, back in March and April.

But international borders will remain restricted until there's a vaccine or widespread, accessible treatment that reduces the health impacts of COVID-19 infections on mortality and hospital resources (beds, staff, ventilators) to manageable levels.

Within Australia, how the Victorian outbreaks progress and whether they can be brought under control will have a lot to do with how far governments go with removal of restrictions. The biggest factor will be how well people can modify their behaviours to minimise the risk of transmission of the virus. Experience to date in Australia, USA, and other western countries is that too many people are ignoring the need to take some individual responsibility for their own health and that of others. That's not surprising - it's really hard to change some of our ingrained social practices.

So we'll have varying levels of restrictions for the foreseeable future (12-24 months). Levels and nature of restrictions will reflect locations and severities of outbreaks as and when they will occur. Just like is happening in Victoria at the moment.

So life is hold for 12-24 months? just can't see that happening as there'll be nothing left to come back to and society will start to fall apart.

The international travel is massive as that direct foreign investment or purchasing of foreign services etc happens face to face or with people flying into to review significant investments in the mid tier SME sector particularity.

The financial services sector is already seeing this with internal capital invest,rent into Australia drying up as these deals are usually done face to face to build/establish relationships (zoom dont cut it!) as those other countries open up as we are seeing we'll be left behind which could take years to recover from if we recover at all.

Bigger picture is the human cost of the collapse that happening because everyone is scared to leave the house.

In the end life must continue and the world will move on whislt we remain stuck in Australia.

The financial system needs the international money/supply as we are yet a pimple on the world so without those global mechanisms we'll go into a self inflicted depression.

Ask anyone international deals are done on a face to face basis by developing relationship over time which can't be done working at home.

I'm seeing this in the financial sector i work in with backing from Europe/US reducing and the ability to complete new deals non existent until you can pitch it in front of them.

Hence we need to open the doors and get going again.

^^^

Except the US and a number of the European countries are among the worst in the world and will end up having to shut their borders whether they like it or not.
How anyone could think that it is reasonable to refer to the US as who we should listen to or follow WRT the corona virus and its management is beyond me.

A country imploding with a leader that is a complete nuff nuff.

I suggest if they are your reference point for how to act - go live there


Knob head

I just can't understand the stupidity of comments like "... as there'll be nothing left to come back to and society will start to fall apart."

Based on what? You really think some isolation and shutting down of non-esential activity is going to destory society. WHat a supperficial life some lead.

I find it funny how the press isn't reporting Covid deaths anymore, just infections. The death rate has plummeted world wide yet infections are higher than ever. Could this mean we are building an immunity already?

We'll see what happens in two weeks after the death rate is expected to rise along with the increase in cases.

#712 Herd immunity requires between 70% and 90% of the population to be immune to a virus. For most virus you require a vaccine to reach this number. The World and Australia are a long long way from building immunity

So i guess we'll hide and people will go hungry pretty quickly with no work/income.

Those who are employees won't like it much when the government can't keep paying jobkeeper and reduces jobseeker you'll go broke real quick so hence SME employees will hurt the most.

Its a tough call but to protect the middle and lower classes we need an economy as it will hurt them most while comparatively upper class will be better off so if you are an employee have fun in line at centrelink...but you'll have your health but no where to live!

The only great thing about the shut down is we are flooded with applications and I'm putting people on at 30% less than others we've had on for a longer period so pay cuts for everyone or they can head to centrelink!

So you're hiring people but paying them 30% less than what they'd normally get? And then threatening the rest with paycuts because you can?

I guess some of us have morals, and others don't #809723

#723 is basically saying we need to ignore the virus for financial reasons because he doesn't want his company to go broke, but at the same time he's happy to see individuals go broke if he doesn't get his own way. What a cunt!

If he's threatening them with their jobs during a pandemic and this economic crisis, then yes.

You can't threaten people directly but its clear when you outline the situation in the wider economy and what salary ranges new employees and applicants will accept.

In the end this is great for employers in the medium/long term but terrible for the country but hey lets all sit at home and not work....enjoy being poor forever

^ you sir are a first grade asshole and I hope your company goes belly up

Actually COVID been great for my business, lower cost/salary base and increased business in the front end.

That will slow down as my clients are forced to stay closed but we'll just chop more heads to make op for it in the coming months once we can't pay them any less due to minimum wage laws. (Which we always comply with!)

In the end the employee looses as i can scale back and still make plenty just means i'll have to do some actual work again but that wouldn't hurt in the medium term.

Oh look another wanker. Hope you get outed! And I will laugh my fucking ass off. But good for you hero

If you're such a ruthless businessman, why do you pay above minimum wages now?

Back on topic. Total of 16 NBA players have tested positive now, in the first week of testing.

Gotta love the "Aussies" who use the word ASS.

They hot message on singlet now so they'll play cause BLM gives you immunity to covid

Right...

Another crap thread has deteriorated.

With minimal interference from Dr KobeR. Amazing.

DeAndre Jordan tested positive!

He been playing like he is sick for a while so no great loss.

has adel deng got a chance to get on the nets team now

Kyrie got into eeveryone ears at the NETS so they sending a Gleague team