He'll put up 18 and 10

I'd say so.

If you go by rumours and chatter I think we would expect the 36ers to look something like the below;

C: Humphries / Salt
PF: DJ / Kyei
SF: Deng Adel or Blanchfield / McVeigh
SG: Import / Teys
PG: Giddey / Dillon / Mudronja

If this is true very good signing for Adelaide.

New era for the 36'ers, time to get over the division?????

Great for Adelaide. Post Joey era off to a good start.

Good player, never put up numbers at pro level yet tho. Probably took a chunk of the budget...and then like doesn't need centres anymore

Good pickup by Adelaide.

Let's just hope his dad doesn't post on here again.

Fair swap for Froling. Good signing

The 36ers opted out of the remainder of its deal with Jerome Randle, sources said, with the one-time NBL MVP recovering from a serious knee injury.

NBL Free Agency officially opens on July 1, and the 36ers' plan is to begin the season with just one import, sources said. The team's front office, led by Jeff Van Groningen, plans to use that spot on a point guard.

Mhmmm

Trouble

Nice to see him back in the NBL.
I guess Henry saw him play a few times in the G-League?

DJ has often played alongside another big in the front court, so it's not really an issue.
Given he's an (almost) fringe NBA player, it will be interesting to see how much his game has developed wince his time with the Kings.

Interesting that sources are still saying only one import, when Henry clearly said he was looking for two. By my count, they've still got 4? slots to fill.

I'm not saying it can't happen, but surely people hyping Broekhoff etc is just wishful thinking? If Players of that calibre do come back to the NBL, they will attract a premium, and I'm not sure Adelaide has the cash for that. Especially if looking for a gun PG.

I don't mind this with the coaching change Henry is more traditional half-court than Joey was so it will be nice to see what a genuine low post player does on a Sixers team. Humphries has had some monster games in the G-League so he should dominate in the NBL.

No mention of Kyei in the article as being signed but I assume that is likely an oversight, he would be a valuable back up PF.

The Sixers were never going to pick up Randle's big money option but will be interesting to see if they still intend to sign him as a glorified cheerleader or not in the hope he will be ready later in the season.

The one import thing doesn't feel me with glee but Humphries is a potentially seriously good pick up so you can accept that.

I am assuming the 1 import projection is for a number of reasons;

1. Spending more on a quality Point/Combo guard
2. Injury insurance
3. Still a high quality (maybe 2) Aussie signings to come.

JVG does have his shortcomings but he does know how to bring in talent. Let's just hope he is doing it with the coach to ensure team balance unlike he has in the past.

Most of us never had hope we were signing Motum. Try to keep one foot in reality

Humphries is a huge signing, but he would've been better off going somewhere without a star alongside him like DJ, whose best position in the NBL is 5.

699 & 712 go to school together?

Did I miss the memo that JVG was running the 36ers now?

https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/46560-van-groningen-joins-36ers-as-general-manager-of-ba/

I find it hard how people are hating on this signing.
Huge improvement on last years bigs. With hopefully Salt to come.
As well as being an upgrade in terms of talent both seem to be good humans.
Humphries more a roller than DJ. Let DJ pick and pop.
gives the team options.
hopefully an Aussie starter at the 3 and an import 1/2 to come.
Teys/Dillon/Obi/McVeigh all good bench options. Remember 2 were starters last year.

Being a good human is definitely a bonus.
Them going with one import is making more sense now especially if they get someone like Broekhoff as small forward.

C Humphries/???
F DJ/Kyei
F Import/Teys
G McVeigh/Dillon
G Import/Giddey/Mudronja

Is that too small of a side? Get a combo import who can shoot and bring the ball up a bit. Hope McVeigh can shoot well and a good defensive SF with length bit like Creeky/Childress

We're only going with one import this season, KET.

I think it might be something like this:

Humphries/?
DJ/Kyei
Blanchfield/McVeigh
Teys/Dillon
Import/Giddey/Mudronja

Nah still need to sign a back up centre. Giddey is a Next Star doesn't count as a roster spot, three players still to be signed.

Salt is likely the back up C

Its looking like

Humphries/Salt
DJ/Kyei
Blanchfield or Adel or Import/McVeigh
Giddey/Teys/Dillon
Import/Dillon/Mudronja

Which looks pretty good to me

We're only going with one import this season, KET

Giddey to start at point & get a defensive combo who can guard the opposing 1's. Deshon Taylor would be a perfect fit IMO

Dazz, what Henry wants is irrelevant read the article.

NBL Free Agency officially opens on July 1, and the 36ers' plan is to begin the season with just one import, sources said. The team's front office, led by Jeff Van Groningen, plans to use that spot on a point guard.

D2.0 I believe in Henry's interview on the nbl show he said a veteran import back up 1.
Also said a 3 4 or 5 import, just waiting to see.
Since then Humphries is signed and rumours Salt close.
That’s the 4/5 sorted with DJ/Obi.

Now 2 reports, one before and one after that interview that we’ll be having 1 import to start.
Options

Star 2/3 local Broekhoff/Adel and a Veteran 1 import
Star 1/2 Import and a Blanchfield type

Anon, Gliddon has already verbally agreed to sign with SEM.

Perhaps both are right regarding the number of imports signing

"the 36ers' plan is to begin the season with just one import"

Leaves room to interpret as they will begin the season with just one import and plan to bring a second in part way through the season ready for playoffs like they did with Childress (I am told that Deleon was informed at the start of the season he was going to be cut for another import later.) Savin money?

D2.0 I believe in Henry's interview on the nbl show he said a veteran import back up 1.

Also said a 3 4 or 5 import, just waiting to see

It's an interesting question, at each club, WHO is actually recruiting the players?
At the Cats, its Gleeson, no question. He gets who he wants, and one could argue the results speak to that. Players who don't thrive in the Gleeson camp, are shown the door. In recent years, the only player he didn't recruit was JJ, and Gleeson sacked him, twice!

Then we have the JVG model, which seems to revolve around him recruiting players, then appointing a coach he thinks he can control.

I've also assumed it was Lemonass responsible for the misbegotten squad at Brissy, but maybe not??

NZ is an interesting one. Presumably Shamir recruited Henry, but then actually said he "wouldn't have recruited Rice."

I would imagine at SEM it was Gree who built the initial squad?

NZ is an interesting one. Presumably Shamir recruited Henry, but then actually said he "wouldn't have recruited Rice."

Yes he is.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/117236961/not-on-my-watch-former-breakers-gm-dillon-boucher-wouldnt-touch-glen-rice-jr

Classic.

D2.0 we have Giddey. I'm sure he can hold his own on the offensive end with humphries/salt/DJ setting picks and working with him.
This combo would be better than sobey/Hodgson.
Obviously there’s another ball handler coming in and a SF who can handle the ball.

The team already is an improvement on last season so calm down.
Import 1/2 and a starting 3 (hopefully Broekhoff or Adel but take Blanchfield).

As much as I don't like Adelaide and bearing in mind they still have gaps on the roster I have to admit Adelaide are looking better already.

Nobody who played for Illawarra last year is signed. They all became free agents when the club was liquidated.

Seems interesting that 36ers owner, Grant Kelly is on the list of contenders for the Crows Chairman.

I do think Adelaide have a long way to recruit to get anywhere near fighting for fourth.

Too many average players between Teys, Dillon, McVeigh, Kyei and a young Giddey.

Need both imports IMO. An import 1 that can really shoot with an import 3/4 or an import 1 and an import 2/3.

Or do we go with an import 2 that can do a bit of ball handling and an import 3, and trust the 1 spot to a majority minutes in Dillon, Giddey, Mudronja?

HaHaHa, 880 same culture apparently

No team that has a young player like Giddey starting would make the playoffs let alone win the NBL

Confusing? Maybe I am, I thought that Shamir had distanced himself from the recruitment of Rice???
But in part, that's my question, who does all the recruiting at each club?
Is it the coach or the GM, or both??

@Nate, as Cats fan I want to see the 6's strong & competitive, so we can continue the rivalry (but not so strong that you whoop our arses.)

I don't mean to be overly negative or nasty, but I'm puzzled by all the talk of Giddey as a starter. I simply cannot conceptualise any kid being that good, he may not even be 18 when the season starts.
It's all great and well to be enthusiastically optimistic, but I just don't see it happening. Henry wants a gun import as his starting PG, and I think that's what you'll get.

Has there been ANY talk on WHO the import PG may be??

Rest of the squad remains interesting. Any strong rumours on free-agents or Marquees?

Salt's an interesting one. Not extremely tall, but good enough to be a backup centre. He'd be a good fit for Adelaide's bench. Can't understand why Brisbane would be interested, but who knows.

Would the 6's be interested in Gliddon (and vice versa)? He'd be handy at many teams, but if you're going to play McV at the 3, would be a good fit for Adelaide.
(and yes, I'm aware of the rumours he's "already signed" with SEM.)
(I know you have Dillon, but surely this will be his last season of NBL?)

Giddey is 6'7 6’8 and is at least 86 kg’s. That’s the same or taller/heavier than a lot of guards in the NBL.
Always been a focal point as a ball handler/distributor.
Understand it was Mickey Mouse game but youngest boomer since Ben Simmons so clearly people think he’s up to it.
I’m not saying he’s a MVP type but I 100 percent think he’s a starter with the addition of a star import/Aussie or 2.
We got away with Sobey as our primary ball handler for a yr. Giddeys already a better ball handler/distributor than he is. Obviously not as athletic/defence etc.

You don’t go to these camps/games oversees if you’re no good.

Potential is usually associated with athleticism. Not the way Giddey plays.

Not really. Been through it myself and seen it plenty of times a different sport.

Look I might be wrong and I'll cop the feedback.
But I’m all aboard the Giddey train as we currently stand.

I don't anticipate Giddey is starting quality. He hasn’t experienced the physicality, the experience that makes people make smart decisions etc.

The PG role is stacked in the NBL too which makes it harder.

36ers will have to be careful to not over use him or under use him. Over use and he will fatigue, under use and he won’t have confidence or momentum.

I cant remember, but how old were Ingles and Newley when they came into the NBL and how did they fair?

Think of it as he will be the 5th starter. Not the first starter since everyone keeps comparing him to the MVP's of the league. He's not getting the keys. He's a valuable part in a team that's being built ok so far.

He might come of the bench , but surely he is going to be better than Teys and McVeigh.

"No team that has a young player like Giddey starting would make the playoffs let alone win the NBL"

Didi Louzada was starting quality at 19

KET have you actually seen Giddey play?

"The jump in physicality is enormous for Giddey and the kid is going to get targeted. He will get the shit beaten out of him."

Louzada, Newley, Ingles, Simmons all held their own. The theory that they are a kid so they will struggle is olden days thinking.

"In context, Josh Giddey will be 18 and in a stronger league IMO."

He is also more highly regarded than Newley and Ingles at the same age. I don't think he will get their rookie numbers but think he will hold his own well.

18 to 19 is a long time in basketball development!!!

What does Simmons have to do with it? A number 1 NBA pick! LeBron at 17 would have been NBL starter quality, but we are talking Giddey someone who is not #1 pick standard!

In the Dragons' debut game, the 18-year-old Ingles made league history by scoring the most points by an Australian on debut - 29, on 11-of-15 shooting from the field.

In January 2020, Giddey helped the NBA Global Academy win the Torneo Junior Ciutat de L'Hospitalet in Barcelona, where he earned most valuable player (MVP) honors.[3] In the following month at NBA All-Star Weekend in Chicago, he took part in Basketball Without Borders and was named an all-star of the camp.[4]

KET you didn't even bother to answer the question. So obviously you haven't even seen him play.

Giddey and Simmons on similar par at the same age. Giddey will unlikely be #1 pick but he will likely make the NBA if his potential continues the way it is.

Both Newley and Ingles started, both helped take their team to the playoffs...

You're not making your nonsense any better by suggesting Simmons and Giddey are on par as 18 year olds. C’mon son.

You’re comparing to Newley, but he didn’t start. You’re comparing to Louzada and Ingles who had stacked squads- 36ers aren’t stacked.

You’re comparing small forwards to a point guard, the strongest and most stacked position in the NBL.

Ya think it’s smart putting inexperienced kid who isn’t physically developed in the starting PG for an entire season and think that’s going to get you to the playoffs?

How many times do they have to say it, the 36ers will be signing and experienced high level import PG, Giddey will either start along side them or come off the bench, Giddey wont be thrown to the wolves as the only or main PG.

I don't think that’s what is bring debated

You haven't seen Giddey play nor do you know his accolades but keep commenting on something you don't know anything about. Giddey and Simmons are the youngest two to play for Australia, that isn't an accident.

"I don't think that's what is bring debated"

Absolutely it is what is being debated. An import will guard the opponents point guard. Giddey will bring the ball up or be an off guard

Your argument is "I know more than you"? That's a pretty shit argument haha you've lost the plot!

Giddey isn't on Simmons' level, Giddey is not a projected NBA All*Star

Your other arguments were shakey nonsense like comparing to other young players who were 1-2 years older than Giddey. Just ignored the fact that the PG position is stacked and such a vital position.

Absolutely it is what is being debated.

Liam Santa is suggesting that Isaac Humphries will be the highest paid local in the league next season.

Wow!

Kudos to the team for going out and being cometitive in the player market.

If the Sixers spent the 4th most last year, this would likely place us in the same again (provided the Kings, and United don't go the budget route).

But please the 2 imports HAVE to be good, because the bench isn't the strongest.

Bryce Cotton's new contract would be for a lot more than $300k a year, the 50% pay cut thing was for players on existing contracts who decided to remain on their contracts not players like Cotton who opted out then re-signed to a new contract or players coming to the NBL from another league like Humphries.

No idea what the Sixers had to pay to get Humphries across but as he has since played in the NBA and would likely be the premier centre in the league I dare say it would be beyond $300k a year.

It's quite the coup really for a basketcase of an organisation in recent years and likely due to the Conner Henry G-League connection which paid for itself after this signing. Begrudgingly gotta give credit to JVG for that hire and Adam Caporn too ;)

the 50% pay cut thing was for players on existing contracts who decided to remain on their contracts not players like Cotton who opted out then re-signed to a new contract or players coming to the NBL from another league like Humphries.

I haven't read that anywhere and why would Cotton re-sign with Perth for $300k when he could get a good $800k in Europe?

Cotton isn't a local, yet.

And as has been explained, multiple times, he and many others have negotiated longer-term back-ended contracts. Ie he will wear the cut in year one, in exchange for increases in year 2 & 3.

All you need to understand for the pay-cuts is that the contracts have a "face value" that is used for cap and tax purposes, but the player actually receives a lessor amount according to the scale. (For next season only.)
So obviously in any negotiations, the player is looking at the lower actual value, whilst the club must consider the impacts of the higher value.

Obviously this applies to ALL contracts. Otherwise every club and player would simply have agreed to rip up existing contracts and sign new ones.

I haven't read that anywhere and why would Cotton re-sign with Perth for $300k when he could get a good $800k in Europe?

Putting aside the KR/Dazz nonsense how could anyone say those deals for Teys, Kyei & Dillon were bad? They would all be cheap, Teys as a role player walks onto any NBL team's roster, Kyei as suggested showed some potential last season defensively at least and Dillon had a couple of pretty decent games when he got given opportunities and impressed enough to get a contract in Poland prior to the shutdown.

Of those four 2 year deals we handed out last offseason the only one that didn't pan out was Kevin White so the club cut him.

They aren't necessarily bonehead signings but using two of them as starters last year didn't help.
Look at some of the import selections for bonehead signings.

Yeah agreed that maybe didn't help the perception Teys & Kyei shouldn't have been starting but it was deficiencies elsewhere in the starting five that Joey felt he had to do that.

Haven't seen Humphries since his first NBL stint. Has he really come along that much?

I watched a couple of clips on YouTube and he looked good in the G-League showcase and a workout session. Has he been in the Boomers mix?

If it is true he is the highest paid local I expect to see MVP level numbers and high usage.

Of his time at the Kings I don't recall him having a great stroke nor any significant post game, nor an impactful defender.

Its been 3 years so I trust the team knows he has developed to a level commensurate with his pay.

Humphries had some big games in the G-League in the 2018-19 season which led to his NBA call up.

2018-19:

20 + 11 vs Bulls
14 + 16 vs Blue Coats
18 + 13 vs Nets
23 + 2 vs Mad Ants
17 + 12 vs Suns
34 + 15 vs Legends
17 + 10 vs Herd

However last season at Lakeland funnily enough under Conner Henry he went backwards saw his averages of 11 & 7 drop to 8 & 6 and didn't get a recall to the NBA.

Those games above suggest when motivated & getting the ball he dominates and keep in mind in the G-League foreigners like him don't get the ball anywhere near enough as all the locals are out to get "theirs" to try and impress.

LB, Humphries will tear it up in the NBL don't worry about that this is not the same kid that didn't show much for the Kings 3 years ago.

I think you can pencil in 20 & 10.

I think 15pts, 11reb.
DJ still a prominent inside scorer will get around 20ppg.

20 and 10 !

What a front line with DJ.

Haven't seen him since he left the Kings outside of watching the game he started for Atlanta against Milwaukee, which I didn't take a lot from. Biggest problem with Humphries in Sydney was his lack of mobility on defense (especially side-to-side). Will be interesting to see if he's gotten any better in that area, because it's definitely possible with hard work (see: Roy Hibbert during his prime Indiana years). If not, a Humphries/DJ frontcourt might bleed a lot of points despite the damage it should do on the scoreboard.

Great signing but also hope his defence is better than DJ otherwise chasing big scores.
Like both him and DJ can shoot the 3 and still have a big in paint as well.
Apart from quality experienced PG that can shoot 3 we need another true 3 shot and Blanchfield would be good low cost option.

Because Blanchfield is a genuine 3pt shooter and even if he isn't hitting he needs to be guarded out there which opens the key up.

36ers lost games last year because they couldn't defend the paint (DJ and Griffin are like cones), and they couldn’t shoot the 3 if Drmic was cold. Just about the worst team in the league in both aspects.

Putting culture aside ofcourse.

What’s Isaacs D like?

Because Blanchfield is a genuine 3pt shooter and even if he isn't hitting he needs to be guarded out there which opens the key up.

I'm not saying he's some great 3pt shooter he isn't and has under performed at his last three stops but his 3pt shooting is what he is known for and because of that he like Steindl has to be guarded out to the 3 point line.

Blanchfield has been a big disappointment since he left Townsville but if he were to come to Adelaide he gets another chance to re-ignite his stalled career and Henry being more a half-court coach will give him that opportunity. Drmic even though I liked him was way too erratic to be respected from outside.

I think you'd put a low bid in for Blanchfield but wouldn't treat him like Weigh the year Adelaide thought he was going to be a franchise player.

Stevie Weigh! Camel 31 on here loved him.

I don't know if any NBL team would have DJ come off the bench. Defence might be appalling but is still one of the best (probably the best amongst locals) offensive bigs in the league.

DJ clearly a starter on any team.
Just needs a defensive presence out there with him which Humphries should be.

Some missed Clarke n Weigh.
So, you can watch Mathew Knicks and Alana Smith, now.