TB
Years ago
Hawks new owners: Colangelo, Kordahi, Proctor
Bryan Colangelo, Dorry kordahi and Michael Proctor. More NBA expertise in our league, great news.
TB
Years ago
Bryan Colangelo, Dorry kordahi and Michael Proctor. More NBA expertise in our league, great news.
Hopefully Bryan stays off twitter this time around.
Sourbroker
Years ago
Someone in Adelaide is having an aneurysm - and not in the back of the knee kind...
As a long term Hawks loyalist.
This is great news. Far better than the other proposed ownership model.
https://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/6795846/nbas-colangelo-buys-into-nbls-hawks/?cs=2443
i guess Bryan will run the team Dorry is the money who is Michael proctor and what does he do
Curtley
Years ago
'Illawarra' name also dropped. Now just called the Hawks.
Luuuc
Years ago
Weird to drop the Illawarra
But people still being willing to 'invest' in the NBL is great news.
Interesting bit if their release.. they mentioned how exciting it was to play games in Canberra and expand the supporter base. Then drop the "Illawarra" part of the name. Some ducks lining up I think.
there should be a grantee of 5 yrs ownership before they sell
Luuuc
Years ago
Ahh yes. I should have read the other article first.
"The intention is for Wollongong to remain the primary base for the Hawks, supported by positive discussions with Venues NSW about upgrading the WIN Entertainment Centre to ensure we have the best venue possible to deliver world class entertainment for Hawks fans," he said.
“There are also opportunities for the Hawks to grow their fan base across the region following their success in taking games to Canberra in recent seasons.
Three to Make Two
Years ago
Does this mean Hawks get Ben Simmons?
But, seriously, I wonder how much the Lamelo influence had on someone like Colangelo throwing his hat in the ring?
As to the removal of "Illawarra" in teh name and suggestions that it'll be "Regional NSW Hawks", how many regional towns have suitable venues? Canberra? Newcastle? Anywhere else?
Great news for basketball along the south coast aswell as the canberra region.
Goes to show the NBL is starting to get noticed on the world scene.
Dropping the Illawarra from the name was always going to happen imo they are trying to start something new and keeping the Hawks is a sign they still respect the history of the club.
These guys are all smart men in their own right and hopefully can convince players to join the team.
Makes you wonder who will be the coach surely it's not going to be Flinn
My expectation from the drop of Illawarra is they will be gone from the region within 2-3 years unless the WIN entertainment centre reduce costs and refurbish.
Palla47
Years ago
Wow they really scraped the bottom of the barrel here
D70
Years ago
76ers fired Colangelo for what? Maybe its another other Colangelo.
Illawarra dropped to remove any bankruptcy claim on new organisation.
who thinks Campbell and Flinn are going to have a job next season
I think not , past record I don't think will be good enough for new owners
Not a lot time left to sort out roster if new coaching staff is in before free agency.
Good news for the league with people still willing to invest in these tough times.
But I think tough times for the new owners as I think there won't be much to build a team around.
Zodiac
Years ago
This sounds pretty good and probably a good idea to drop Illawarra from the Hawks name they've had more than enough chances to keep the team there time to start gradually moving them on.
Surely a whole new coaching staff and front office will be hired in the coming weeks.
Moving the team to Sydney or Canberra if the WEC isn't fixed within 24 months seems very likely too imo
Anyone familiar with basketball in the ACT would know it's not realistic. Stop putting it forward as an option.
this has the bullets type deal to it....lets wait to see if they money settles into the nbl accounts!
Also they won't be in the south coast region much longer!
Curtley
Years ago
The lack of suitable stadiums in Sydney apart from the one that's too big for the kings is an issue.
So Ornithologically speaking what's the difference between a Hawk and a Falcon?
Nsw government knocked down the entertainment centre, gave it developers to build units, smashed down a thirty year old rugby stadium to build a new one that nobody goes to. You work it out.
The Sydney tennis stadium has a roof on now and could be turned into a basketball stadium.
My bet is Newcastle if the fans show more passion than Illawarra.
Newcastle have as much chance of getting a team as Kyrie has of running his own league in competition with the NBA
Newcastle oh dear. better off with Canberra but they can't even run a basketball competition. Their last foray in the SEABL saw them winless. Hawks still hapless
LoveBroker
Years ago
This is good news for the league.
Now they just have to get rid of the current management and coaches and start anew.
Every team has a
Or will there be a big sponsor to come in and they can be called the Mitre 10 Hawks for example.
D2.0
Years ago
Good news for the team and league, but dropping the name is interesting.
Does this mean the writing is on the wall for a move??
The idea of expanding the appeal is, IMHO, BS. People outside the area won't suddenly start supporting a random team just because it has no area identifier. At the risk of drawing yet another ill-fitting AFL comparison, it reminds me of the period when North Melbourne simply became the "Kangaroos". It didn't work, and they didn't finish up relocating.
OR, are they just trying to pt pressure on the respective governments, to upgrade the venue??
Games in the Gong, Canberra and Newcastle how will that work with sponsors and season seat holders? So much for all the Ball BS.
Local Hawks die hard are ropable, can't see this working.
LoveBroker
Years ago
Local Hawks die hard are ropable, can't see this working.
The few die hards who turned up good on ya. The pretend ones bad luck. This or nothing.
Dropping the name is stupid, I understand changing Wollongong to the greater area of Illawara years ago but now what, south coast hawks?
Like that would make any difference to supporter growth.
Canberra, Newcastle, Wellington, Geelong, Townsville, Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast, Western Sydney are the only other options that could ever be.
As previously said, name had to change so the new ownership doesn't take on previous owner debt. Business 101.
Three to Make Two
Years ago
"Maybe if these 'die hards' attended their games, the Hawks wouldn't be in this situation."
The "diehards" do attend the games. But either not enough of them or not enough casuals to satisfy the owners.
"I understand changing Wollongong to the greater area of Illawara years ago but now what, south coast hawks?"
Actually , it was "Illawarra "in the beginning. Some marketing guru got involved and changed it to Wollongong before it was changed back .
But how about "South East Australia Hawks"? Seahawks for short.
Hawks had a lot Monday night games last season, it's a horrible place to get to and park, the food was crap and expensive. They have 2500 solid supporters but the casuals don’t bother to go due to these problems.
South east Melbourne too similar.
South coast or greater south or southern coast or south sydney or southside
As previously said, name had to change so the new ownership doesn't take on previous owner debt. Business 101.
" and that previous entity must then settle its debts in accordance with the legal priorities." So the last owners have to pay all outstandings?
Kordahi was on Perth radio last night saying that their first priority is a head coach, so Flinn is obviously gone. Thank goodness. Should never have been a head coach in the first place.
The Hawks asst coaching has been a joke for a quite a while now...its really been lucky they had Gordie & Rob
Do we think NBL twitter goes after "Collars" to see if we can gt his "Wife" into a bit of friendly banter.
J Bags
Years ago
If the new ownership was serious about their investment they'd take the WEC & Stadium off the hands of Venues NSW and make it a beachfront precinct.
However, I see it spelling the end of the Hawks in Wollongong. Looks like they'll play a few token games here and the majority will be Canberra.
Strange how business & the Illawarra aboriginal Group are pulling their sponsorship from the Hawks because Illawarra has been taken out
I get Illawarra Hawks are the last original club standing but seriously by pulling their sponsorship out only means the end of the franchise & moving on. If the people of Illawarra want the team to stay they need to get behind it in both business & fans
Fans definitely do but a local business would invest with the expectation that local people see their sponsorship, otherwise what is the point?
D2.0
Years ago
Hmmm yeah, you have to wonder if this isn't a ploy, to keep the "history" of the Hawks, whilst moving them to a more lucrative location??
Or at the very least to put the pressure on the respective governments to upgrade their venues.
I honestly don't see the idea of sharing games as working. Move too many to Canberra, or wherever, and you just piss off what's left of the local support, without anybody in Canberra getting on board.
I don't know anywhere near enough about NSW regions and demographics to say what would work.
Also have to remember that whilst widespread support is nice, it doesn't always put bums on seats. Whatever the name, they need to work on getting those within easy reach to actually stump up and come to games.
Zodiac
Years ago
Interesting to read that Colangelo is really just an investor who will act as a 'consultant' when needed.
The NBL announced the move in a press release. Colangelo is co-owner with Dorry Kordahi, a former part-owner of the Sydney Kings, and Michael Proctor. Colangelo will not have a day-to-day role as GM/President but will serve as a consultant and advisor to the basketball operations side.
Wollongong will be the home base and they will play a few games in Canberra probably 2 to 3.
Newcastle has been mentioned as another place aswell as Western Sydney.
Alot of people are having a say at the moment but did they actually even attend games when the club needed them to.
Politicans are piping up having a go at the NBL but did they help with getting the NSW gov to actually fix the WEC.
Now we have a sponsor pulling out due to a name change seriously that is rather pathetic imo.
They should be thankful the NBL actually went through the process to find the right type of people to push the club in the right direction.
Agree, I am a regular "Hawks fan" and I will be over the moon if we get new young fans in Canberra, Newcastle jumping on board,
There needs to be a little honesty here, we have 300'000, Sydney have 5 million people, you would have to be a marketing wizard to convince sponsors to ignore those numbers
8 games - Gong,
6 games - Canberra / Newcastle ( 3 each)
Finals in the Gong
Long time Hawks fan here also. I was a bit surprised when they dropped Illawarra from the name but doesn't mean that its not gone forever.
I am more interested in how they are going to re-build the team and it has to be from the ground up.
They have got to get the back room staff right then bring in a coaching team who has experience and last of all the right type of players.
Dech, Froling, Glover and Harris are all young and have talent if they can add some veteran experience and get some good imports they can be more then comeptitive.
The newspaper is on the war path with some kind of agenda. Probably due to the fact they had been sprouting on about La-melo was a done deal as owner and completely blindsided by the announcement and realising they didnt have the real inside information like they thought.
I agree on coaching staff, the quality of the people they bring in with show how serious they are
Could they get?
Import/Naar
Dech/Glover
Adel/Blanchfield or Coenraad
Cooks/1 of those Aussie kiwi pfs from college or overseas (M.Maker, Mayen, Wetzell, Freeman etc etc)
Import/Ogilvy
Also grab another big as NS imo like okwera or jones
Idoubt AJ or Blanchfield will be back and i think the club can do better.
Coenraad has had his time and also should look past him.
If Crooks gets the flick i doubt his sun would come and i thought he would chase money in europe.
I also think Naar will move on also and Grida is done for a while.
It's alright to say move on but not certain some Illawarra players have got what other clubs need. Some might get some relatively low offers that might keep them.
MOst of the previous players were good but not really elite NBL players. Still an aloso ran side and talk of finals is very premature.
Trev
Years ago
Dech is returning to Perth after his current contract
I believe hawks had four players under contract that the nbl said they would honour so they remain at hawks. Dech is one of them.
koberulz
Years ago
Those contracts were with an entity that no longer exists. They're all free agents.
D2.0
Years ago
Agree, I am a regular "Hawks fan" and I will be over the moon if we get new young fans in Canberra, Newcastle jumping on board,
But another overpriced wildcats shirt D2.0 to show your Twitter friends that you don't have in real life
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