anon
Years ago
any thoughts on what this could look like e
Goulding to get back to a home town where he can star again
Gibson - To finish off his career
??????
Coaches
Radford and Stewart would surely have to be early favourites to take on the role
Others to be considered
Wright
Bevo
Gaze
Dennis
Dellavedova / Gibson
Goulding / SG / Armstrong
Broekhoff / Krebs
Import / McCarthy / DP
Import / C
Right now there will a slim chance of Tassie being included in the time line the NBL has. How about selecting a CEO and GM first if you want to go into fantasy stuf.
What's Crivelli doing ATM?
Scout
Years ago
As a Tasmanian, it is very exciting from the development of the stadium selection of GM / CEO / Players / ownership structure.
Hope it is great for the both the local basketball community and the broader community.
Wright is done in Australia, especially at the NBL level
Head office might not want to keep spending the bosses money on the following teams Hawks, Tassie, Brisbane and United how does this work?
if the ball family buy the hawks the league gets bigger and more people would wont team
"Head office might not want to keep spending the bosses money on the following teams Hawks, Tassie, Brisbane and United how does this work?" And Phoenix.
NO idea how this works. Pretty sure they don't either.
KET
Years ago
LK holds 25% of Melbourne United so he's not on his own there.
Bullets are owned by KMartin Consortium - whether they're going strong is anyone's guess.
Hawks will be purchased by a consortium
He's not "self funding" the league + 3 teams.
He's probably "self funding" the league plus providing a bit of assistance to Bullets, Hawks, 36ers via league funds or leveraging sponsorships (ie, 36ers, United and Bullets each seem to get the same club sponsors)
Stewart and Nash will certainly be in the picture, Radford in the picture but should not be. Players will be decided when they enter, could still be two years away.
anon
Years ago
''''Stewart and Nash will certainly be in the picture, Radford in the picture but should not be. Players will be decided when they enter, could still be two years away.''''
Stewart has a good ability to recruit however Radford certainly has the ability to coach, strategize and develop due to his experience, maybe Radford coaches Stewart plays a CJ Bruton type roll ASS coach working with he basketball ops side of things.
my opinion is it does not have to be either of them but I think it will most definitely be one of them so im going with Radford
Radford can't coach successfully, doesn’t understand talent.
Wright and Gaze would be terrible, but still way better than Radford.
Other than Radford himself, this form certainly doesn't think he can coach.
Scout
Years ago
Anon #806876 ...good post
Stewie does know how to recruit, has had talented teams that he has coached. Not convinced yet of his X and O ability but if he is able to recruit a NBL equivalent to what he recruited for SEABL he will have a great team.
Radford backs himself as Mr Basketball Tas / developer of talent, I am not sure if this translates to a great NBL coach. He does not have the whole of the state on board but I believe he should be part of the NBL team, Stewie could be in a OPs role.
Having them both on board would be smart maybe if possible underneath a Head Coach
proud
Years ago
I like Waxy Walker and he is Tasmanian, but I think he has his work cut out for him to still be in the league when the Tasmaniacs are introduced to the league and he doesn't seem like the end of the bench leader such as Mika at the Bullets or Wagstaff at the Wildcats, would anyone want him?
Matty Knight is also from Tasmania but does he have any ambitions to become a coach in any capacity and would he like a return home?
Hugh Greenwood is another from the Apple isle but would he be keen to join the team, would he come with a list of demands such as playing time or even a starting role?
I feel that although this is team Tasmania, we may lack actual Tasmanians in the team (would love to see Goulding and Gibbo there) but you'd imagine besides Moller that will be highly sought after, this team will end up with a few players that feel they are worth more than what others will pay them and join this team, for some reason Daniel Kickert comes to mind but please be retired by then.
Scout
Years ago
Hopefully some young Tasmanian's will get a run:
Stanwix, Armstrong, Richards, Krebs, Deans, Clarke, Boucher are some of the names (sons of guns most of them) that are the future of Tasmanian basketball.
Stanwix, Armstrong, Richards, Krebs, Deans, Clarke, Boucher - most of these are a long way off the NBL as are Stewart and Radford.
Vince will bring a coach from interstate and the assistants will most likely be the two mentioned.
Gibson will play a season, maybe as playing ass, and Matty Knight is coaching in WA so might put his hand up for a ass role.
Delly could be a marquee signing as well as Goulding.
They will need to bring in at least 9.
"Vince will bring a coach from interstate and the assistants will most likely be the two mentioned." Vince who?
Haz
Years ago
A lot of posts over time insisting Goulding will go to Tasmania, just because hes from there.
Not a lot of players actually play in their home town anymore. Any other reasons why Goulding would want to leave Melbourne as I cant really see it happening.
Chris Goulding spent the first eight years of his life in Tasmania. If he plays for Tasmania is will be because of career opportunities or $$$.
Vince Craveli, rumours are he will be interim CEO to set team up with a local coach. Stewart has runs on the board, he probably isn't the best x and o man but there are good assistants for that.
D2.0
Years ago
I'm certainly not going to speak for Tasmanians, but IMHO people need to let go of the "home grown" idea, especially initially.
It's tough enough with a relatively small population to begin with, but then you will always have good local players that end up elsewhere. So focusing too heavily on local talent can be detrimental.
And in the NBL, assembling a good core of Aussie players is tough at the best of times. Brisbane is still struggling to get it right. You basically have to start with the list of available free agents, and take it from there.
And I agree that you need to start early with a good GM, who can start reaching out and building ties.
Coach Liam Flynn to assist Stewart as he is the best Xs & Os guy in Aus. Might even poach Andrew Jantke now Wright is gone as he is probably the best development and most connected coach in Aus.
Man o man there are some deluded people here. Flynn a fail. Some other anon said Radford. When was the last time he coached adults? Why is his name even in the mix? Dazz just go away. Too much meaningless verbage. yet another anonymous said "Vince Craveli" That would be Vince Crivelli, so why would he leave United to help set up the Tassie side?
So much water to go under the bridge before anything happens in Tassie. Better think about the CEO as well. The CFO, Media, marketing, ticketing and the list goes on. The only people that know (possibly) what is going on is the NBL. I doubt they do. They are bleeding to keep everything together. They now allow Cotton to re sign for more. No hard cap, no leadership.
I don't now his name is spelt but LK has faith Craveli and it’s rumoured he would set Tasmanian nbl team up short term with local coach. If you know everything just spit it out or piss off to where you came from.
With a local coach? Man you are on drugs. So you know LK has faith in Crivelli? How the fuck would you know that to be true and post it? Clearly you pull the pud too much or smoke way too much.
Some people no things and dumb arses like you just insult. Enjoy your weekend.
Mystro
Years ago
Breakers in their first season went with home grown local talent and were well off the mark.
A lot of those guys eventually developed into productive NBL players but they didn't start winning until they had poached some guys with proven track records in the league like CJ Bruton.
Only once NZ had a developmental pathway program in place for a few years were they able to win consistently with mostly locals.
Most people would rather support a team of mercenaries that win than locals losing.
Scout
Years ago
Mystro
it can be a mix of both ie mercenaries and a couple of locals. The team needs the best in place, including the coach. There is talent here in Tas but it needs structure and opportunity. Pathways including NBL1 to NBL need to be in place, like all professional franchises it will not rely on locals alone but be a team the state is proud.
Back in the day the Devils were at their best when locals from across the state including Bellchambers, Stewie, Nash, Estcourt played for them. They never had the connection with the community across the state right. If this team gets it right it will work well.
Lots of other steps still need to be taken ie the CEO / GM / CFO / Comms etc to be in place as well as clear timelines on the DEC being upgraded.
It needs to be done properly.
Flynn and Jantke, please. Best X and O's, best connected. Someone's read their press.
Hate the term mercenaries, whole league is basically a militia then. Rarely does a player suit up for their home team and has a long and great career with the one franchise.
Flynn and Jantke
Flynn from Illawarra? Who is Jantke?
Perthworld, you don't have to ask him, he'll push it down your throat himself. Always have a giggle reading his stuff, coached best junior team of all time, anyone that's been in same stadium as him that went to college was because of him. His players getting all those Div 1 offers. Wait for how he changed an underperforming North Adelaide team into champions.
Liam Flynn is a South Australian coach that advertisers on hoops some times and has coach in Europe I believe.
Clearly not someone Tassie needs either of them
Flynn has a hell of a lot more merit than Jantke!
Let's just say Jantke could have coached the original Dream Team and taken complete credit for the gold. And that he personally raised Jordans play for the following year.
Jantke clrearly is not a candidate. Raford either
"Liam Flynn is a South Australian coach that advertisers on hoops some times and has coach in Europe I believe."
Liam coaches Hapoel Jerusalem in the Israeli league and the Basketball Champions League. When seasons were stopped this year they were 17-4 in Israel and 11-3 in the Champions League.
#058 impressive.
Is he head coach or an assistant?
Scout
Years ago
The GM / CEO roles are crucial, as evidenced by Tommy Greer at South East Melbourne Phoenix. He has been very impressive, given he has the benefit of working in Australia's basketball heartland but he has the community onside and recruited smartly both with the coach and players.
Hope Tas have a similar GM lined up who will put the work in - the benefits will be huge ie bringing the state together.
His an assistant. Rides on the coat tails of friends
Perthworld
Years ago
Does Jantke post on hoops?
"The GM / CEO roles are crucial," Yep. Both already selected apparently.
Scout
Years ago
Anon 074
'"The GM / CEO roles are crucial," Yep. Both already selected apparently.'
Interested in who they might be- anyone else besides Crivelli mentioned??
Damn crucial roles
Scout
Years ago
Anon 105 - you're enjoying this!!
Do you rate them, believe they will do the job well?
Hope the property market doesn't crash any further of funding 4 teams might start hurting the backer of half the leagues teams!
LK's doing his balls in South yarra. He's even suing people for backing out.
Jenkie is best coach of young talent in Aust.. he identifies and devs. Getting brilliant results. Next step is to get nbl1 gig... AJ is a gifted coach.. none better in SA.. bar maybe A Simons - not sure why never mentioned in Sixers discussions.
enkie is best coach of young talent in Aust.. he identifies and devs. Just like Clarke, Radford, Caporn and Rush. No experience in coaching adults.
Hopefully there are better candidates around than those names sorry.
Who is simons , rush and jenkie?
I guess it's you guys posting about yourself
Simons played NBL and would be a good candidate for any club. I'm surprised the 36ers haven’t pursued him. He is the Phil Jackson of the SA league.
Time for Kestleman to come up with the goods if he wants that $40mill.
Haha, dirty Andy. If he ever gets a spot in NBL look for all bylaws to be gone through with a fine tooth comb to find any loopholes.
Can't argue with the 8 or 10 titles whatever he has he crushes the SA league and would have respect around the country from his coaching and playing prowess.
Respect? Not if no one has ever heard of him. Titles in SA? meh
All this talk of Jantke is a joke that's just got out of hand, right?
Not a joke. Just clueless losers, with no lives, that have nothing better to do with their time now that COVID means their psych appointments are no longer available.
I know both these blokes.
For Simons, Jenkie or anyone to take on a role with the new Tassie NBL team they would need to WANT to do it in the first place. And even if they did (I am sure they do not) I am certain they would both agree there would be many candidates mentioned above far better qualified.
How do you know that. Tired of discounting people before even looking at their credentials... driven ego centre people often are the best to drive a program.forward...
No SA coach least of all NBL1 Central coach has any chance of running an NBL program. Maybe throw up RoJo hahaha
"No SA coach least of all NBL1 Central coach has any chance of running an NBL program." Finally some sense.
Rojo for x and o's is good, but people skills and players respect is substandard. Norwood was most successful having Cooper head coach who did have the respect of the players and was able to control a couple of siblings on those teams. Whilst the argument for Simons success, he's always had a big budget and talent level superior to most teams locally. From memory he has a fairly well paid job outside of basketball, why would he rip up roots to go to expansion team in Tassie.
As for the guy that knows "Jenkie" so well, maybe check with him how to spell his name. Even his Janx is a better effort.
These guys are 2nd banana guys, if not 3rd banana guys. I did wonder about the spelling of Jantke? too for somone that knew so much. once this covid thing disappears Kestmen had better pull his finge out in a hurry. I also hope that Gutwein gets a move on with building the promised new courts. But if the NBL doesn't go ahead they don't need to be at the DEC.
The Tas Premier has today reconfirmed the infrastructure commitment related to the Tas NBL team and noted that there are only a small number of minor issues to be resolved before an agreement is signed for the Tas team to commence in 2020-21. Sounded like those issues may be resolved this week.
Now if we can just shift this discussion away from SA based club coaches, and associated angst...
RoJo was a butt boy yes man who had angry little man syndrome
Scout
Years ago
reckon he means 21-22, will not build stadium by the end of this year along with everything else
Where did you hear this above? Gutwein has previously confirmed that the new courts finances are ready to go. The Tassie side will be in the 21/22 NBL season.
The NBL need to get a move on with this and prioritise finalising the Tassie deal.
Yes - Premier referred to 2021-22 season commencement. Was never going to be earlier, but there was some concern that things might not be ready for 2021-22 in recent weeks.
Nbl announced 7 mins ago Tasmanian government have pledged 68 million for the re-development
From today's THe Mercury online.
"The two parties have spent the past fortnight thrashing out the finer details, which will see Mr Kestelman hand over the league's 10th licence and invest $150 million into a shopping, hotel and restaurant precinct at Wilkinsons Point.
"I spoke with Mr Kestelman [Wednesday] night and we are very close to a final agreement, there are a couple of matters we need to hammer out," Mr Gutwein said.
“But we are both positive we will be able to take this forward, subject to finalising those matters.
“That will also enable an NBL team to play in Tasmania not this season but in the next.” Let's get it done.
^5 and the Tiny topic that Perthworld was so upset about that poor girl has been shut down. Silence from Perthworld should be the new norm. Silence Matters
Perthworld
Years ago
No idea how the system posted a blank entry when I wasn't even trying to post but glad you enjoyed it both.
I personally enjoy laughing at PerthWorld and his trolling.
Here is possibly some good news.
"https://www.themercury.com.au/sport/basketball/time-frame-for-derwent-entertainment-centre-refurbishment-down-to-the-wire/news-story/329f4b9d3d93efd44f60bf543d15f8ef" About time.
There was an article online that Bogut was pushing to get thing happening quickly as well.
Dave Marshall
Years ago
The Mercury is reporting today that the final paperwork has been signed between the Tasmanian Government and the NBL for the new team to start in 2021/22. An announcement is happening today.
Paywall article unfortunately.
https://www.themercury.com.au/sport/basketball/tasmania-to-return-to-nbl-after-25year-break/news-story/1583edc1cf6d2c3de30245fb4f55ce28
I am sure somone can read it. Koberules being a dick again.
The Mercury article is just a cut and paste of the release on nbl.com.au
From basketball Tasmania.
"Tasmania to return to NBL after 25-year break.
The Mercury can reveal the Tasmanian Government and NBL owner Larry Kestelman have finally signed the deal that will see the state re-enter basketball's big league, and the DEC will get its much-needed facelift.
TASMANIA is officially back in the NBL, the DEC will get its much-needed facelift and Hobart’s northern suburbs will receive almost $220 million worth of infrastructure build.
The Mercury can reveal the Tasmanian Government and NBL owner Larry Kestelman have finally signed the deal that will see the state re-enter basketball’s big league, with the announcement to be officially made today.
The first step will be a taxpayer-funded $68.5 million redevelopment of the 30-year-old DEC, including the building of a new $20 million four-court multisport indoor facility next door.
This will open the door for the planning approval process to begin for a $150 million investment from Mr Kestelman’s company, the LK Group, for a shopping, hotel and restaurant precinct at the adjacent Wilkinsons Point.
The deal also includes a $2 million a year State Government sponsorship for at least the first five seasons, and comes after the Glenorchy City Council agreed to sell the DEC to the government for $8 million back in February.
It will be the first time Tasmania has been in the NBL since the demise of the Devils 25 years ago, as well as bringing vital economic stimulus into post-COVID Hobart, Premier Peter Gutwein said.
"This development will unlock significant economic development, attract investment and create hundreds of jobs," Mr Gutwein said.
“This is how we’re rebuilding Tasmania, building on our strengths and providing opportunities for Tasmania, including national league participation, to create new jobs, future investment and economic development.
“We’re proud to be a major sponsor of a Tasmanian NBL team, and the opportunities it provides for grassroots pathways and player development in our state.”
The team will be the NBL’s 10th, and will enter the competition in time for the 2021-22 season.
The deal comes after more than a year of tough negotiations that were also set back by the COVID-19 outbreak that saw a hiatus for more than two months after the in-principle agreement was announced in February.
Some feared the outbreak and the economic impact of coronavirus would kill off the state’s chances.
But Mr Kestelman said it was full steam ahead now for the league’s newest team.
“This is great news for the NBL and the people of Tasmania, who have showed amazing passion to help bring this to life,” he said.
“The final agreement means we can start immediately on the next steps for the planning and upgrade of the DEC, in preparation for a Tasmanian team to take to the court for the start of the 2021-22 season.
“The NBL team will deliver important economic and tourism benefits for Tasmania and bring new jobs and investment to the state.
“Basketball is a global sport, and the NBL team will showcase Tasmania on the national stage and around the world.”
Mr Kestelman said as well as redeveloping the DEC, the process of building the club would now begin in earnest as well.
“This will include engaging with the local community to help choose the name, as well as starting the recruitment of people to lead the club into the future,” he said.
“We will be looking to immediately recruit a CEO to lead the club, and we will work closely with the Tasmanian Advisory Board and the local community to establish a team that all Tasmanians can be proud of, on and off the court.
“We have been encouraged by the interest from corporate Australia in becoming foundation partners of the Tasmanian team.”
Great to hear the good news this morning. I hear that the HC may have already been selected and they will advertise for 2 assistants. Interim COO is on the way too. Not sure how the personell selection process will go but everyone involved in most case is meant to be Tasmanian. Good times ahead.
"everyone involved in most case is meant to be Tasmanian"
Thats no good. Tasmanians have NFI.
Sounds great, time will tell as with all things.
Coach - Liam Flynn
Assistant 1 - Mark Radford
Assistant 2 - Anthony Stewart
Player development coach - Andrew Jantke.
Heard it here first. That's an A grade coaching staff with experience at all levels including above NBL and if they’re allowed to stay together for 3-5 years will be the best in the NBL.
No bait - you get a high level European A grade coach, two guys with very strong Tassie links and the best junior development guy in Aus. It'd surely cost them a pretty penny to put it together but looks like they're willing to spend up to get the right people. Good on them!
#931
That's the worst coaching panel I’ve ever seen, please no. Stewart would be ok but ditch the rest, Radford, lmao.
Stewart unlikely, Radford has had no involvment with kids since when? Flinn OMFG no. Jantke never heard of him.
Chivers could be a candidate but last time he coached wasn't that great.(NBL1) PLayers left.
High level European A grade coach...Thanks for posting Liam. LMAO
Liam Flynn...hahahhaha
Next you'll say Liam Santamaria!
Bevo would be good as long as he doesn't include his twin Radford.
Henare would be the best selection and hopefully he made some strong connections when at United.
Stewart is a marketer not a coach so put him in that role.
Stewart did very well in the old seabl with teams. His last premiership team weren't stacked though Moller was great and Nichols did good for his size. Rest were basically locals.
Stewart isn't a marketer. He's a great coach and has one of the most successful seabl coaching records ever. He won't be head coach. Radford maybe an Asst perhaps Stewart too. Those 2 are the most qualified in Tasmania.
Stewart working the media hard for that jobs
Won't get it . Can’t coach
#051
You got no idea. You had better put your coaching record for all to view.
D2.0
Years ago
Well at least with Flynn, he wouldn't actually have to be in Tasmania. He can just post them his DVDs.
$2M a year from the government?
Nice to see WA's GST being put to good use.
Seriously, whilst this might be good for the team in the short-term, it simply perpetuates the same old problem in Tasmania. Too many people just sitting on their asses expecting the guvment to pay for everything.
My In-laws came from Tasmania. They lived in a little town South of Hobart, and later moved to another little town up North.
Wow. Some numpty posts some meaningless shit on Hoops. Nothing changed. WA GST? Who cares? You married a Tasmanian and you bag the shit out of the state? Aussies don't use the word asses. I guess are are single now sitting on your arse in WA.
Good suggestion that would be my choice but Stewart has a good job now outside of basketball and would take a significant pay cut to be the 2nd banana. Plus things are going to get better on the Chargers front.
Looks like Simon Brookhouse will be the CEO and most likely Henare the coach.
Paulie would be a good coach. Brookhouse as well a good CEO.
One announced next will be the coach or some of the second tier staff. Expect locals (Nash, Inches) to fill the Ops Manager, Membership and Commercial roles. Ass Coaches - Stewart, Radford and Knight
No Radford please. Stewart is more of a head coach so I hope he's not ruled out of that roll. Nash should be on the coaching team as well.
Inches won't be there i doubt. The rest will depend on the HC position.
Word is Inches missed out on CEO role so he may look at one of the others. Stewart is not an NBL Head Coach. He needs a 2-3 apprenticeship under an established coach.
Radford has no fans but will most likely be involved unless he has finished his studies and gets a College gig in America.
Henare for Head Coach - strong connections with Melb Utd.
Not sure why Bevo is on the outer. Would have to be better than Radford for sure.
Stewart has won as player and coach and should be given the opportunity, he has a good eye for talent, let him select his coaching staff. Radford no thank you.
Because Seabl and NBL are two very different levels of Basketball
Interesting choice with Brookhouse joining the Tassie side. His next 2 picks are a mates wife and the new Ops manager is another mates son. Coincidence?
Yes, hopefully the old mates act doesn't ruin a good start.
Nothing in today's paper. Weird.
https://nbl.com.au/news/team-tasmania-makes-key-local-appointment
The article is in the paper but not online.
TASMANIA'S NBL franchise has appointed former Hobart Charger Jorrick Chivers as general manager operations.
The club is steadily piecing together its off-court set-up as it builds to an announcement of a team name on October 1 before entering the competition in season 2021-22.
Chivers has a long association with Tasmanian basketball.
He was a member of the Hobart Chargers’ 2000 and 2002 championship teams and an assistant coach of the Hobart Huskies in the 2019 NBL1 season.
His father Mark Chivers was Chargers coach from 1997-2007.
Chivers comes from the role of business manager at Mac-Killop College on Hobart’s Eastern Shore.
"Basketball has played a major role in my life and I can’t wait to be involved in the sport again and help grow Tasmania’s new NBL team," Chivers said.
“It’s an exciting opportunity for Tasmania and I look forward to helping to bring the club to life and building a team all Tasmanians can be proud of.”
CEO Simon Brookhouse said he was delighted to welcome Chivers to the club.
“The Chivers family has a long association with Tasmanian basketball and Jorrick’s strong operations skills and his basketball background will be invaluable,” Brookhouse said.
“We have said we want to appoint Tasmanians where possible and this is a key role that will help lay the foundations for the club.”
Brookhouse said the club would announce more of its off-court appointments in the coming “weeks and months”.
A shortlist of team names has been whittled down to four with one of Mountaineers, Jack Jumpers, Tridents and Pride to be announced on October 1.
Not sure where to put this. Here will do. Exciting news with the planning Authority approvong the DEC upgrade. Paywall article in part.
"TASMANIANS will be rocking the suburbs with the go ahead given for Glenorchy's new $200 million-plus retail, entertainment and sporting precinct.
The Sunday Tasmanian can reveal work will start on the state government-funded $68.5 million Derwent Entertainment Centre upgrade next month after the Tasmanian Planning Commission approved the site area plan.
The DEC upgrade is stage one of the overall development, with stage two of the development to be a major retail precinct adjacent to the DEC, which is already seeking expressions of interest from prospective retailers."
https://www.themercury.com.au/sport/basketball/green-light-given-for-work-to-start-on-tasmanias-new-home-for-concerts-and-sports/news-story/7676591bcd621c3c4c360767f5f35d6d?utm_source=The%20Mercury&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=editorial
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