Aussie
Years ago

New NBL season to start in 2021?

From the Sunday Times:

Mass gatherings, such as concerts and sporting event crowds, will not be allowed in WA for the rest of 2020, the Doctor managing the States emergency response to the pandemic has warned.

So it looks like the Wildcats won't be able to play at RAC Arena in 2020.

Have other State leaders in other states, given any indication if large crowds will be allowed in 2020?

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KET  
Years ago

2020 is a write off really.

WA, SA , Tas, NT, Canberra are better placed for having crowds early than Vic and NSW, Qld.

Cricket it will be interesting what happens.

Australian Open - they may want to push back a bit. TDU is less problematic being so open spaced.

NBL should aim for mid Jan start, front load in WA, SA, NT, Canberra, Tas, NZ. Look to have crowds in vic and nsw and qld around Feb

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They'll be allowed to play in there, they just won't have a large crowd.

CC: D. Moldovan.

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TB  
Years ago

WA Premier just said in his presser that sporting crowds would be apart of stage 4 which would BEGIN review in July/August and not implemented until later. So it's still not clear.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

2021 start to the league.

Maybe clubs should play out local clubs with less than hundred in and try get it on tv, so the loss of spectators is covered by a short term tv deal. The local clubs would save rental costs plus the league could start in October and hopefully tv stations would be busting to get some sport on their channel.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How long would season be if started in January ?.

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KET  
Years ago

Because we can restrict international travel easier than other places being an island, we don't need global eradication, just need majority elimination in Australia/NZ.

Until that occurs, can't have crowds inside stadiums or even things like public transport where everyone is packed in like sardines - otherwise we will escalate American style l.

Those active numbers are worth tracking - for sporting crowds to return Governments will likely require virtually no active plus no new cases for a period of over 3 weeks.

Straight away Victoria is unlikely to achieve that before October. SA looks pretty good odds at getting there by July/August.

Fingers crossed

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ME  
Years ago

Bat soup has really fucked the world, hasn't it? lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I wanted beer battered fries.
Not beer, bats and fries.

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

I think it's unlikely any sport will be played with crowds this year. Doesn't mean sport can't happen, though.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

AFL looks to go ahead without crowds.

I would go with a 16 game season . Play each team twice Jan to April season.
Shorter season , less travel and reflects the reduced salaries, costs etc...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Easy fix, play with no crowds for first 2-3 months. Play in small community stadiums, raise the nbl.tv cost and livestream through nbl1 format.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

AFL broadcast rights were worth almost half a billion per year the last time they were negotiated. NBL rights would be worth about tree fiddy. Hike up the NBL TV price and it still wouldn't even pay for the airline tickets to get the teams on the court let alone paying the players.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I said it before and got shot down, and now it logistically may appear, move the season to winter even if it is against AFL. March start date.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gatherings of 20+ people not allowed yet shopping centres are overflowing.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kids can go to school yet public playground are closed.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

public playgrounds are open but the equipment is off limits. kids can go to school but the school playground equipment is off limits.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What's your point?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Meh.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just cancel the season and start when everything is perfect instead of stuffing around and worrying about crowds and contracts and percentages. Top players if you want to risk it go overseas, the rest go and get real jobs until it's all ready. There's so much fluffing about worrying about this and that. Owners already lose money, might be better off even paying players in contract.

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ME  
Years ago

"I think it's unlikely any sport will be played with crowds this year. Doesn't mean sport can't happen, though."

The NBL cant run without crowds.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Crowds indoors will be the big issue we'll need to work through.

If we can't get certain crowds numbers in the buildings the teams will go broke quicker than they already are!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm told that the biggest isue is teams being contracted to play in the large venues with no out to play in smaller venues thus meaning massive costs to still open these large venues if no crowds are allowed!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Smaller venues wouldn't be @TV standard. Kestleman has clearly stated already no crowds no NBL.

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TB  
Years ago

The issue with a team like the Wildcats is they already have around 10k of their members paid up and expecting seats for the game.

If you go to a smaller venue, not everyone will be able to get seats and if they stay at RAC with distancing their will still be people missing out.

Suddenly you have are large portion demanding refunds and you are no longer a rich club.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WA aren't allowing interstates in. Problem solved. Thanks for the donation.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

those larger venues should look after their major tenants, or otherwise they wont have any tenants and the venues will just sit empty for a year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

some of the tenants have nowhere else to go so the venue knows they can screw them to the max

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah Illawarra tried that. Kings wanted to go back to the SEC and the city. Why are people so dumb. I wonder how they survive in the real world with the crap that is posted in all seriousness.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

#501 not certain what you're trying to explain there but SEC is long gone and WEC is the only venue in the Illawarra. Kings and hawks don’t have options.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What wise words have Basketball Australia release in regards to the last round of fed and state govt announcements? Most sports seemed to have made some comment.

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clizzy dizzy  
Years ago

Hawks have the option of re locating to Newcastle
arr yeah

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Anonymous  
Years ago

English please #506

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KET  
Years ago

NBL will be watching those active case numbers. That's going to dictate how viable having crowds is and at what point. I don’t think the NBL will be overly concerned, Australia is in a good position that a Jan 2021 Season start would be viable.

First step is all active cases contained (not quite there yet with latest vic outbreak but almost)

second step is no active cases

third step is prolonged period period of no active cases to flush out asymptomatic hidden cases and avoid outbreaks

We won’t see crowds allowed until Australia has eliminated it. It won’t be eradicated on a global scale, however Australia can always keep borders either closed or heavily restricted with forced quarantine for arrivals.

Luckily the transtasman bubble looks likely to occur sooner rather than later

By July SA, ACT, WA, Qld, NT could be at no active cases.

Vic and NSW have a fight on there hands, they are at such high risk of outbreaks.

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KET  
Years ago

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/rugby/tv-rights-optus-fox-sports-switch-off-interest-in-rugby-as-code-faces-insolvency/news-story/3e29e0d13a8cdcf60ef7c52b2f3adc15

Fox Sports applied the squeeze to Rugby Union, RU said no, Fox Sports walked away. Interesting aspect is RU don't have much leverage, they're a struggling sport with few members and in major debt, while we have known for over a year now that Fox Sports were cutting smaller sports, saving money and trying to focus on AFL/NRL/Cricket.

That's part of the reason the NBL got "cut" from the FS coverage.

Other interesting aspect is Nine squeezing the NRL - albeit that's leveraging the situation to get a broadcast rights extension. Seven is doing the same is a friendlier mutual way with the AFL, that will likely result in an extension as well.

AFL, NRL, Cricket, Tennis (Australian Open), Racing are the only big money sports these days.

Even the Olympics have had drawn out negotiations about costs in the past between IOC and broadcasters.

Other sports need a way to survive without big TV money. Crowd + As much coverage as possible + Sponsors is the NBL way. More coverage makes it easier to reach more people to get them both into the sport but also viewing so that the NBL can offer their sponsors greater market reach for their dollaroos.


Yes we have Kayo - but how long until we see sport live on Stan, Netflix?

NBL should try to push hard to get onto one of those platforms, would be *huge*.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It was so easy to watch on SBS last season, it would be great if they could do a deal with SBS and get all games live.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

SBS got paid to put the games onto TV in the hopes of getting a TV deal in the future but the viewer numbers where terrible!

The fishing and caravan shows on 7Two/Mate got a better viewership in the same time slots.

We have to accept that until they can get on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday night then no one will watch on TV.

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maxymoo  
Years ago

I'd love the Kings to play out of Perth for the season .....imagine the joy of having your second favourite team playing each week (i.e. whoever is playing Sydney)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WA and SA have their borders still shut. Ie you can fly in then stay 2 weeks in ISO. Ain't happening for a while yet sunshine.

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