Just how many tin foil hats are you wearing right now?

I agree Isaac, but again with my tin foil hat on, the government were high fiving each other with no cases in 2 weeks, we get one that apparently falls outside the isolation boundaries and their response is, meh, strongly doubt they would have infected anyone because they self isolated. Surely that household will have it once tests come back and I doubt after 2 weeks inside they wouldn't pop out to shops etc.
We were never going to have no cases going into the future, all this shutdown was really to give hospitals some breathing room(no pun intended) for them to stock up on supplies and train staff in ICU care. The tracking app is having some bugs with Apple phones so it makes it even tougher to trace potential contamination.
I can really see government lifting restrictions and just see what happens. My concern is we still don't know enough about this thing, now 14 day quarantine is out the window, how many people left the hotels yesterday? Most people think state borders are fully closed, but anyone can drive in from interstate and just have to declare where they will be isolating. Apparently Sapol are doing a great job in checking, but who knows if some idiot pops to servo for some smokes and milk quickly.
I can see some restrictions lifting but not all the ones they had planned on announcing, including sport now.

Another dooms dayer! The country can't stay in lockdown forever. They are going to open things up and hope that the new protocols are enough to limit US/UK/Italy/Spain like casualties. The economy can not continue on its current path. It’s as simple as that.

Hope, yep, that's good enough for me.

Where did I say I wish the virus would go away because it's inconvenient? I said nothing of the sort.

Lets get open its time...this is a joke and like living in 1960's communist russia!

Time to get back to work!

Agree Ket

The experts keep getting it all wrong.

The world will open back up and keep will come back into Australia with the Virus and it will spread and the weak will die that it the way its worked throughout history.

Lets flush it through Australia so we can get back to real life

Mate so you want to live in a bubble forever? cmon lets get real life must go on and people need to get back to work or the whole country will be stuffed and those of us with cash will not be helping those less fortunate soon.

Mate so no vaccine for 10 years and we staying locked up, give me a spell.

1.1 Mil Die from Aids every year
270K from Covid @ this stage so trend its around the Aids level give or take.
500K die from Flu every year

17.9Million people die from Heart diseases every year but people still aloud to eat MAccas & drink Coke so its crazy we shutting sh*t down from something that won't even be a top 5 killer in this country!

"Sounds like the SA government is pushing for all sports to resume training as of Monday, which is great news."

Presumably that would be at Level B restrictions. You can check the AIS website for the list of what Levels A, B and C restrictions are for each sport. Here they are for basketball:

Level A - Running/aerobic/agility training (solo), resistance training
(solo), skills training and shooting drills (solo) at home or outdoor (no indoor sporting facility access allowed). No ball handling drills with others.

Level B - Non-contact skills using basketball — passing, shooting, defending, screens and team structure (offence and defence). Small groups (not more than 10 athletes/staff in total).

Level C - Full training and competition.

The sporting association I'm involved with (which is not basketball) is developing protocols for how its clubs should operate under Level B. It will then get those approved by the Office for Recreation and Sport before it gives clubs the green light. I don't know if this is how it will work for other sports or not.

"Yeah, it's not flu like, you don't get it and then you're immune, and it's not only oldies getting badly sick from it."

That's not really how flu works either. Flu vaccinations are only around 50% effective each year, then that immunity doesn't usually carry onto the next strain.

In terms of people who get badly sick from COVID-19, it is almost entirely elderly and people with pre-existing conditions that complicate it. In terms of case fatality rate, the most recent data for people below 60 with COVID is 0.06%, which is higher than the flu but still low.

Those advocating for a funeral-led economic recovery should consider that about 60 percent of SA's confirmed cases are people aged between 20 and 60. i.e. working age. Removing restrictions would lead to a lot of those people not being able to work due to COVID-19. That's apart from those who'd need to stay home to tend ailing and dying relatives.

There are good economic reasons not to lift restrictions too quickly.

#245 any patient dying from COVID-19 won't be at home being tended too by relatives. They will be in hospital in isolation. Smh

#239 I didn't realise heart disease was a communicable disease spread from one human to the next. Thanks for the heads up

Does anyone have any insight how Level B works practically for Basketball given there are multi-court, multi sport stadiums out there.

In addition surely there will be a lack of court availability if you are limiting trainings to 10 persons per court (and that is questionable given the 10 may apply to a facility)

The Morrison government give all this to their mates businesses to make a killing, it doesn't have to work just keep donating to the liberal party and making huge profits.

#251, know you were being a smart arse but here's some info for you :
Viral heart disease, also known as myocarditis, is a heart condition caused by a virus. The virus attacks the heart muscle, causing inflammation and disrupting the electrical pathways that signal the heart to beat properly. Most of the time, the body will heal itself and you may never know you had a problem. However, in rare cases, the infection itself and the resulting inflammation can damage and weaken the heart. This can also trigger heart failure and heart rhythm irregularities.

This condition can happen to people who seem to be in good health. The only sign of viral heart disease is flu-like symptoms for some people. Although a wide variety of viruses may affect the heart, only a few are more commonly linked to myocarditis and other heart problems.

Finally morrison at least going to get things moving.

In Vic that Dan Andrews is like a Nazi

Yeah totally! The way Andrews has ethnically cleansed the Jews....great comparison!

"Wut? The reference was not to vaccines. When you suffer from the flu your body develops a level of antibodies that would normally prevent you getting that particular strain again.

Covid there's strong evidence that those antibodies aren't sufficient and therefore the herd immunity concept where once you’ve recovered you won’t likely get it again goes out the window."


It's still at initial stages but studies into recovered COVID patients are showing development of antibodies that suggest immunity from the strain their bodies have fought off, as has been the case with other coronaviruses. The research has been published Nature Medicine.

The challenge will be as per influenza in that the virus will adapt, reducing the effectiveness of those antibodies. In some other coronaviruses, immunity has lasted as little as a few months, but it's too soon to know what the case will be here.

"That's not true, the average age is under 70, we don't consider under 70 as elderly."

Not sure why you cut and pasted only a fraction of my sentence, but the complete sentence was:

"In terms of people who get badly sick from COVID-19, it is almost entirely elderly and people with pre-existing conditions that complicate it."

The hospitalisation rate and the case fatality rate show this to be true, it's not a controversial statement. The emerging data shows over 90% of COVID deaths were people with one or more pre-existing health conditions. In Italy, they've listed that as 99%.